Defensive Line Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Depending on 4 man rushes when that 4 man rush can't get any pressure is a problem. No creativity to create pressure like Minn and KC do all the damn time.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Depending on 4 man rushes when that 4 man rush can't get any pressure is a problem. No creativity to create pressure like Minn and KC do all the damn time.

part of the prob i see, is the D worked in 2022. and KS effectively said, let's keep running that D. prob is we are stagnant. no innovation. this goes back to Wilks, he should have let Wilks be Wilks. Wilks is known for creative blitz. Shanny hired that man, and didn't allow him to bring it. he may want a lil too much control, and not enough delegating. that may be a problem.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Depending on 4 man rushes when that 4 man rush can't get any pressure is a problem. No creativity to create pressure like Minn and KC do all the damn time.

part of the prob i see, is the D worked in 2022. and KS effectively said, let's keep running that D. prob is we are stagnant. no innovation. this goes back to Wilks, he should have let Wilks be Wilks. Wilks is known for creative blitz. Shanny hired that man, and didn't allow him to bring it. he may want a lil too much control, and not enough delegating. that may be a problem.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Depending on 4 man rushes when that 4 man rush can't get any pressure is a problem. No creativity to create pressure like Minn and KC do all the damn time.

part of the prob i see, is the D worked in 2022. and KS effectively said, let's keep running that D. prob is we are stagnant. no innovation. this goes back to Wilks, he should have let Wilks be Wilks. Wilks is known for creative blitz. Shanny hired that man, and didn't allow him to bring it. he may want a lil too much control, and not enough delegating. that may be a problem.

Wilks sucks. Shan let him do his thing and didn't Wilks couldn't do it with having everyone healthy

we're missing Greenlaw, hopefully winters can be that speed at LB. Campbell ain't the guy

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Paging Collins & Hargrave..please report and make an impact.

Where were they yesterday? I saw Hargrave in on a good play but otherwise didn't see much from either of them. Hargrave's getting paid big $ and really hoping to see more impact plays from him this season.

And Floyd, where were you? Yes, the Vikes have good OTs but didn't see anything much from Floyd. Don't think he even had a tackle.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea ever since DR left it's been straight up vanilla scheming with the front 4. It's beyond strange

Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:
Hopefully we can trade for a DE rental

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Paging Collins & Hargrave..please report and make an impact.

Where were they yesterday? I saw Hargrave in on a good play but otherwise didn't see much from either of them. Hargrave's getting paid big $ and really hoping to see more impact plays from him this season.

And Floyd, where were you? Yes, the Vikes have good OTs but didn't see anything much from Floyd. Don't think he even had a tackle.

Maybe they should try Elliot and Collins more on obvious running downs and let Hargrave get the pass rushing reps form the interior. That's how Philly used him. Instead we are playing the guy the whole game and he's never been great versus the run. I think late in the games he's worn out and not creating any pass rush.