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If we can get Danielle Hunter for a 2nd or 3rd rounder, then it's a no brainer if Lynch can pull it off. This would be an all-in move that would make us the clear cut Superbowl favorite if we don't get destroyed with injuries. You simply can't block Hunter-Hargraves-Armstead-Bosa and Jackson/Givens/Kinlaw/Hyder/Beal/Davis keeping everyone fresh. That depth is insane 
NNice pipe dream over the cap has nagopiki and Floyd both getting paid 13 mil last year. We can't land those guys with our penny pinching budget. What is Hunter going to cost? Only way we get cap room is if we trade a stud
Hunter has a $4.9 million dollar cap hit and it's the last year remaining on his contract. We can easily fit him into our salary cap. Hell, his salary will be cheaper than these free agents after seeing what Floyd got.
The question is the cost. If it's a day 2 pick, then it's basically like adding Sanders to try and put our offense over the top, and he was almost the guy to help win us a championship.
Hunter is also way better than Yannic, Clowney, Floyd, and every other available edge, so who the hell cares about a day 2 pick for one of the better pass rushers in the league when he's healthy? Who the do you double on our line? It would be pick your poison with that much talent. Wilks wouldn't even need to blitz, but he still will and it will be a thing of beauty seeing a free rusher go untouched or an elite pass rusher getting 1v1. Either way, good luck.
Id trade a second rounder and some more. f**k it. We are trying to put ourselves over the top with a super bowl. Go all in.
Here's another reason to trade for him. Hunter is FA at the end of the season, so if he has a big year playing with this much defensive talent, then it's a win-win because we trade a 2nd round draft pick to get him and then probably get a 3rd round comp pick back in return. It just makes too much sense if his 2023 cap is going to be lower than these Edge FA's, after seeing what Floyd got.
I see Hunter with a $13 cap hit for 2023 (Spotrac). He's going to cost a lot in draft capital as a 28 year old with multiple 10+ sack seasons. Any team trading for him will think of it as a long term investment which I don't think the 49ers can view him as. He'd be awesome though, not arguing that.
$4.9 base salary. Minnesota has basically paid everything owed to him, so whichever team gets him won't be on the hook for anything. It all comes down to trade compensation, but the comp pick we'd get minimizes that because someone will throw money at him in 2024 and we'd likely get a 3rd after trading a 2nd to significantly improve our DL and increase our superbowl odds.
The key to this is an already saturated ER market. If we win the bid, we also win the contract too because we'll know the market already (if we want a longer contract). In short, he might not cost as much as we think and it would be a closer-move. I'd love it.
Great point, but if Paraag can't get him to sign an extension, we'd most likely get a 3rd round comp pick from the NFL. I honestly feel there is no risk with this move. Lynch has an opportunity to turn this into a historically good defense using only a 2nd round pick. Hunter is better than Dee Ford, and he helped us reach a superbowl, and this time it's not a requirement to extend him like we needed to do with Ford, which came back to haunt us.
I fully agree.
And I'll say it again. If ShanaLynch truly believe the road to a Superbowl runs through a DL, this is a must-have.
These are his own words. Close the deal, John:
"I like to joke that we like to stockpile D-linemen here, and we'll just worry about the offensive pieces and everything else later. Like, 'Are you sure we need our 18th D-lineman?' But if they're that good, yes, you do. Nothing else matters." ~ John Lynch
This is why I had no problem with trading for Dee Ford. It didn't work out, but you saw their vision to put together a dominant defensive line, and Hunter carries way less risk than Ford did.
I guarantee Lynch and Adofo-Mensah have already talked. This is our identity and I'm going to be disappointed if we don't get him because this is a season changing acquisition, that would make us the clear cut favorites to win it all if we stay healthy.
Agree, and I still can't believe we have Dee Ford's dead cap hit at 8+ million, that's gone next year and that helps in signing Bosa.
That's the problem with constantly doing restructuring. You kick the can down the line and end up owing a bunch of players money that aren't on the team. That'll eventually happen with CMC, Hargreaves etc.
We owe them millions even when they aren't under contract with us anymore. We will owe CMC $2.14M a year for two years after his contract expires. We'll owe Hargreaves $4.6M a year after his contract expires- we didn't restructure his but that's one of the ways we made it work
Agree, it's the risk of doing these big contracts and the player doesn't work out. I remember the first year of the Cap and we had to let go Roger Craig and Jerry Rice and a whole bunch of stars (after the '94 season) go and the 49ers were in cap hell for years after that. Jimmy G. (for example) worked out in the sense that he doesn't impact the cap any more this year or the next, and that's ideally what should happen, but injuries and old age does get in the way of that. Pierre Garcon was an example where the 49ers signed him to a (I think) five year deal and he got injured in his 2nd year and retired thereafter. I like how Praag simply does one year deals and frontloads the hell out of the A-lister players (like Kittle and Deebo etc...). Dee Ford, Richburg, Jimmy Ward, Alex Mack are examples where even Prag's genius isn't enough to save the cap space. The cap was designed well to make sure bottom feeder teams have a shot at top talent, unfortunately, and that was really an Eddie DeBartolo rule aimed squarely at the 49er organization, sort of like the Brock Purdy rule.
So it's not a real surprise to me that we keep missing a super bowl win by inches and minutes, unlike the old legendary days. 😭