Defensive Line Thread

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

I have to agree with Guapo here, as much as I loved Ebukam & Omenihu, it's not like they were lighting up the stat sheet sack wise, Hargrave will make up for that, and I believe a healthy Armstead will get back on track sack wise.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm concerned Bosa will be overworked if Drake isn't legit on the other side. It seems a bit risky to count on him.

I doubt we overuse Bosa, whoever the other 4 or so EDGE's are, they'll get PT, Bosa & Drake get the most, I have a good feeling about Drake, I think he breaks out this season like Huf & Banks did last year.

I hope you're instinct is right. Bosa just never seems to get that help on the other side and he and Kyle put so much on him to be the difference.

No doubt having Hargrave next to him will help take a load off.

I think I'd just feel better if we got a known veteran to help just in case.

The other edges will get playing time but will it be good playing time. We thought we had a good rotation last year and that was wrong. the other de;s did next to nothing in terms of getting to the qb. We can't keep expecting the defense to win late in games with 1 pass rusher on the field. Hargraves is going to be good but never count on IDL for huge sack numbers.

My exact thoughts and concern.

#MeToo

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

I have to agree with Guapo here, as much as I loved Ebukam & Omenihu, it's not like they were lighting up the stat sheet sack wise, Hargrave will make up for that, and I believe a healthy Armstead will get back on track sack wise.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm concerned Bosa will be overworked if Drake isn't legit on the other side. It seems a bit risky to count on him.

I doubt we overuse Bosa, whoever the other 4 or so EDGE's are, they'll get PT, Bosa & Drake get the most, I have a good feeling about Drake, I think he breaks out this season like Huf & Banks did last year.

I hope you're instinct is right. Bosa just never seems to get that help on the other side and he and Kyle put so much on him to be the difference.

No doubt having Hargrave next to him will help take a load off.

I think I'd just feel better if we got a known veteran to help just in case.

The other edges will get playing time but will it be good playing time. We thought we had a good rotation last year and that was wrong. the other de;s did next to nothing in terms of getting to the qb. We can't keep expecting the defense to win late in games with 1 pass rusher on the field. Hargraves is going to be good but never count on IDL for huge sack numbers.

My exact thoughts and concern.

#MeToo

Right. We not asking to sign Miles Garret for 25 a year here. Just a solid vet we can depend on

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

I have to agree with Guapo here, as much as I loved Ebukam & Omenihu, it's not like they were lighting up the stat sheet sack wise, Hargrave will make up for that, and I believe a healthy Armstead will get back on track sack wise.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm concerned Bosa will be overworked if Drake isn't legit on the other side. It seems a bit risky to count on him.

I doubt we overuse Bosa, whoever the other 4 or so EDGE's are, they'll get PT, Bosa & Drake get the most, I have a good feeling about Drake, I think he breaks out this season like Huf & Banks did last year.

I hope you're instinct is right. Bosa just never seems to get that help on the other side and he and Kyle put so much on him to be the difference.

No doubt having Hargrave next to him will help take a load off.

I think I'd just feel better if we got a known veteran to help just in case.

The other edges will get playing time but will it be good playing time. We thought we had a good rotation last year and that was wrong. the other de;s did next to nothing in terms of getting to the qb. We can't keep expecting the defense to win late in games with 1 pass rusher on the field. Hargraves is going to be good but never count on IDL for huge sack numbers.

My exact thoughts and concern.

#MeToo

Right. We not asking to sign Miles Garret for 25 a year here. Just a solid vet we can depend on

I'm sure the first priority right now is the Bosa extension,

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

I have to agree with Guapo here, as much as I loved Ebukam & Omenihu, it's not like they were lighting up the stat sheet sack wise, Hargrave will make up for that, and I believe a healthy Armstead will get back on track sack wise.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm concerned Bosa will be overworked if Drake isn't legit on the other side. It seems a bit risky to count on him.

I doubt we overuse Bosa, whoever the other 4 or so EDGE's are, they'll get PT, Bosa & Drake get the most, I have a good feeling about Drake, I think he breaks out this season like Huf & Banks did last year.

I hope you're instinct is right. Bosa just never seems to get that help on the other side and he and Kyle put so much on him to be the difference.

No doubt having Hargrave next to him will help take a load off.

I think I'd just feel better if we got a known veteran to help just in case.

The other edges will get playing time but will it be good playing time. We thought we had a good rotation last year and that was wrong. the other de;s did next to nothing in terms of getting to the qb. We can't keep expecting the defense to win late in games with 1 pass rusher on the field. Hargraves is going to be good but never count on IDL for huge sack numbers.

My exact thoughts and concern.

#MeToo

Right. We not asking to sign Miles Garret for 25 a year here. Just a solid vet we can depend on

I'm sure the first priority right now is the Bosa extension,

Probably. But by the time that deal is finalized, I'd imagine that would be late in TC and those vets will be gone (even the cheaper ones). Oh well. I don't see why they couldn't do both at the same time especially given Bosa's deal will add more cap space this year.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

I have to agree with Guapo here, as much as I loved Ebukam & Omenihu, it's not like they were lighting up the stat sheet sack wise, Hargrave will make up for that, and I believe a healthy Armstead will get back on track sack wise.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm concerned Bosa will be overworked if Drake isn't legit on the other side. It seems a bit risky to count on him.

I doubt we overuse Bosa, whoever the other 4 or so EDGE's are, they'll get PT, Bosa & Drake get the most, I have a good feeling about Drake, I think he breaks out this season like Huf & Banks did last year.

I hope you're instinct is right. Bosa just never seems to get that help on the other side and he and Kyle put so much on him to be the difference.

No doubt having Hargrave next to him will help take a load off.

I think I'd just feel better if we got a known veteran to help just in case.

The other edges will get playing time but will it be good playing time. We thought we had a good rotation last year and that was wrong. the other de;s did next to nothing in terms of getting to the qb. We can't keep expecting the defense to win late in games with 1 pass rusher on the field. Hargraves is going to be good but never count on IDL for huge sack numbers.

My exact thoughts and concern.

#MeToo

Right. We not asking to sign Miles Garret for 25 a year here. Just a solid vet we can depend on

I'm sure the first priority right now is the Bosa extension,

Probably. But by the time that deal is finalized, I'd imagine that would be late in TC and those vets will be gone (even the cheaper ones). Oh well. I don't see why they couldn't do both at the same time especially given Bosa's deal will add more cap space this year.

Right and the FO aren't retards. They can do 2 things at once.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

I have to agree with Guapo here, as much as I loved Ebukam & Omenihu, it's not like they were lighting up the stat sheet sack wise, Hargrave will make up for that, and I believe a healthy Armstead will get back on track sack wise.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm concerned Bosa will be overworked if Drake isn't legit on the other side. It seems a bit risky to count on him.

I doubt we overuse Bosa, whoever the other 4 or so EDGE's are, they'll get PT, Bosa & Drake get the most, I have a good feeling about Drake, I think he breaks out this season like Huf & Banks did last year.

I hope you're instinct is right. Bosa just never seems to get that help on the other side and he and Kyle put so much on him to be the difference.

No doubt having Hargrave next to him will help take a load off.

I think I'd just feel better if we got a known veteran to help just in case.

The other edges will get playing time but will it be good playing time. We thought we had a good rotation last year and that was wrong. the other de;s did next to nothing in terms of getting to the qb. We can't keep expecting the defense to win late in games with 1 pass rusher on the field. Hargraves is going to be good but never count on IDL for huge sack numbers.

My exact thoughts and concern.

#MeToo

Right. We not asking to sign Miles Garret for 25 a year here. Just a solid vet we can depend on

I'm sure the first priority right now is the Bosa extension,

Probably. But by the time that deal is finalized, I'd imagine that would be late in TC and those vets will be gone (even the cheaper ones). Oh well. I don't see why they couldn't do both at the same time especially given Bosa's deal will add more cap space this year.

Right and the FO aren't retards. They can do 2 things at once.

This

Welp, we lost another option last week.

Yannick, 1 yr $10.5M. It's a little out of our range. But not too much.

When are we going to get a book end for our 34 Million dollar man?

Jackson is coming along don't get me wrong, but we're gonna need a proven vet.

Maybe 1 or 2 yr rental to optimize the Bosa effect.

Imagine if Bosa was only double teamed. What would his stats be?

And what would a good edge guy do going 1v1 80% of the time?

We need to sign Bosa so we can get some clarity on our cap and get the side deals done that will bring us to the promised land. Let's do this.

Welp there goes Houston. $6M guarantee. Cmon. 9.5 sacks.
Not too many options now.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Welp there goes Houston. $6M guarantee. Cmon. 9.5 sacks.
Not too many options now.

I think we believe we can get by without one of these guys. I like Kerry Hyder a lot. He's not a slouch and can play the run and pass well. If Bryant and Ferrell are doing as well as it sounds, our rotation may not be a problem after all.

Jackson was drafted to be the bookend. We're letting him develop into that while filling out the rotation behind him. He's reportedly having a good camp, so with all the above said, I don't think the team feels a need to spend money on those aging vets, some of which are one-dimensional.

Lombardi reported that Taco Charlton is getting first-team reps already... That's not a good sign for edge group. I didn't anticipate Drake Jackson to breakout until next year, and Clelin Ferrell is a stiff.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Lombardi reported that Taco Charlton is getting first-team reps already... That's not a good sign for edge group. I didn't anticipate Drake Jackson to breakout until next year, and Clelin Ferrell is a stiff.

Been saying, he's looked pretty damn good since we got him. Obviously you want Drake to win that job, but Taco has been pretty solid. The talent has always been there with him, hopefully Kourek can get him playing like the first round pick he was.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Lombardi reported that Taco Charlton is getting first-team reps already... That's not a good sign for edge group. I didn't anticipate Drake Jackson to breakout until next year, and Clelin Ferrell is a stiff.

I will never understand the Ferrell signing, when much better pass rushers were available.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Lombardi reported that Taco Charlton is getting first-team reps already... That's not a good sign for edge group. I didn't anticipate Drake Jackson to breakout until next year, and Clelin Ferrell is a stiff.

I will never understand the Ferrell signing, when much better pass rushers were available.

He was Ebukams replacement basically for much cheaper. Can defend the run and hopefully can provide some pressure.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Lombardi reported that Taco Charlton is getting first-team reps already... That's not a good sign for edge group. I didn't anticipate Drake Jackson to breakout until next year, and Clelin Ferrell is a stiff.

I will never understand the Ferrell signing, when much better pass rushers were available.

He was Ebukams replacement basically for much cheaper. Can defend the run and hopefully can provide some pressure.

Ebukam had a bull rush at least + he had a great motor... :/

IDK I really hope I'm wrong, but there's a lot of players I'd rather have make this roster over Ferrell.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Welp there goes Houston. $6M guarantee. Cmon. 9.5 sacks.
Not too many options now.

I think we believe we can get by without one of these guys. I like Kerry Hyder a lot. He's not a slouch and can play the run and pass well. If Bryant and Ferrell are doing as well as it sounds, our rotation may not be a problem after all.

Jackson was drafted to be the bookend. We're letting him develop into that while filling out the rotation behind him. He's reportedly having a good camp, so with all the above said, I don't think the team feels a need to spend money on those aging vets, some of which are one-dimensional.

For 6m, houston was the guy.

Injuries are going to catch up to charlton bryant ferrel. Jackson pooped out after 9 games last year, what will we get out of him this year?

Now, there's no one left in the rolodex.