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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Sorry bud, I agree with him. You are probably the worst offender here of using PFF grades when it suits you and disregarding and mocking it when they don't. I still love you though
Personally I don't put a whole lot of stock into PFF one way or the other, I think it has some good value, but it's not the end all be all

LOL. I post everything that comes across my timeline for you all (NY85 usually beats me though) from AGL to PFF (most common) to FO to local podcast communities. In the Kinlaw thread, absolutely. But you know that. I'll wait for his evidence on real topics.

As to the bold, I couldn't agree more.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Sorry bud, I agree with him. You are probably the worst offender here of using PFF grades when it suits you and disregarding and mocking it when they don't. I still love you though
Personally I don't put a whole lot of stock into PFF one way or the other, I think it has some good value, but it's not the end all be all

LOL. I post everything that comes across my timeline for you all (NY85 usually beats me though) from AGL to PFF (most common) to FO to local podcast communities. In the Kinlaw thread, absolutely. But you know that. I'll wait for his evidence on real topics.

As to the bold, I couldn't agree more.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Sorry bud, I agree with him. You are probably the worst offender here of using PFF grades when it suits you and disregarding and mocking it when they don't. I still love you though
Personally I don't put a whole lot of stock into PFF one way or the other, I think it has some good value, but it's not the end all be all

LOL. I post everything that comes across my timeline for you all (NY85 usually beats me though) from AGL to PFF (most common) to FO to local podcast communities. In the Kinlaw thread, absolutely. But you know that. I'll wait for his evidence on real topics.

As to the bold, I couldn't agree more.


Right backatcha.

I just found out I have surprisingly solid girth. So drinks are on me!
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 2, 2020 at 4:57 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Sorry bud, I agree with him. You are probably the worst offender here of using PFF grades when it suits you and disregarding and mocking it when they don't. I still love you though
Personally I don't put a whole lot of stock into PFF one way or the other, I think it has some good value, but it's not the end all be all

LOL. I post everything that comes across my timeline for you all (NY85 usually beats me though) from AGL to PFF (most common) to FO to local podcast communities. In the Kinlaw thread, absolutely. But you know that. I'll wait for his evidence on real topics.

As to the bold, I couldn't agree more.


Right backatcha.

I just found out I have surprisingly solid girth. So drinks are on me!

What's ironic is that we are going to have to use PFF for our bet lol. Just looked the other day and it's not looking good for me haha. Need Brunskill to make up about 18 points
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
What's ironic is that we are going to have to use PFF for our bet lol. Just looked the other day and it's not looking good for me haha. Need Brunskill to make up about 18 points

Oh yeah. LOL at that irony. That's all good. It's not fair he had to have a shortened off season, then in the pre season he had to take steps at both G and then C. Then in season, he went from RG to C. I just think that's unfair to properly evaluate him at either position, really.
Remember when Heitmann and Kilgore moved from G to C and turned out pretty good. I wonder if we got something on Brunsky or if this is temporary.
Dang you guys got me talking OL in a DL thread. I blame NC
Originally posted by 9ers4u:
Dang you guys got me talking OL in a DL thread. I blame NC



I can't wait until I don't have to anymore.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 2, 2020 at 5:52 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Proof or you're making crap up. I'll wait.

YOU when Kinlaw's PFF is high.
I'm playing around here but yeah, their (PFF) grading system seriously still needs some work esp. regarding weighting.

YOU when PFF graded Ward has the best safety in the NFL over the past 7 weeks.

I believe you. He's played very well the past 6 weeks though.

This lack of basic awareness is amazingly comical.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Sorry bud, I agree with him. You are probably the worst offender here of using PFF grades when it suits you and disregarding and mocking it when they don't. I still love you though

Originally posted by RasSuar:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Proof or you're making crap up. I'll wait.

YOU when Kinlaw's PFF is high.
I'm playing around here but yeah, their (PFF) grading system seriously still needs some work esp. regarding weighting.

YOU when PFF graded Ward has the best safety in the NFL over the past 7 weeks.

I believe you. He's played very well the past 6 weeks though.

This lack of basic awareness is amazingly comical.

This literally makes zero sense bud. Dense response. Disingenuous. This was your proof of me only posting grades when it fit a narrative and you're still referencing Kinlaw. Wow.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 3, 2020 at 7:54 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
This literally makes zero sense bud. Dense response. Disingenuous. This was your proof of me only posting grades when it fit a narrative and you're still referencing Kinlaw. Wow.

We both know you're lying here. Even the people here who can stand you can see it. But you wouldn't be you as a poster here if you weren't intellectually dishonest about cherrypicking stats. It is what it is.

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Originally posted by RasSuar:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This literally makes zero sense bud. Dense response. Disingenuous. This was your proof of me only posting grades when it fit a narrative and you're still referencing Kinlaw. Wow.

We both know you're lying here. Even the people here who can stand you can see it. But you wouldn't be you as a poster here if you weren't intellectually dishonest about cherrypicking stats. It is what it is.

if nc makes you so miserable maybe you should take a break
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by RasSuar:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This literally makes zero sense bud. Dense response. Disingenuous. This was your proof of me only posting grades when it fit a narrative and you're still referencing Kinlaw. Wow.

We both know you're lying here. Even the people here who can stand you can see it. But you wouldn't be you as a poster here if you weren't intellectually dishonest about cherrypicking stats. It is what it is.

if nc makes you so miserable maybe you should take a break

That dude.
Originally posted by cciowa:
if nc makes you so miserable maybe you should take a break

LOL I didn't engage him for months. And probably won't again.
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