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Chris Foerster hired by 49ers
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Who cares lol dudes been coaching OLs since the 80s
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Originally posted by Giedi:Originally posted by Heroism:Kyle Shanahan explains 49ers' choice to hire Chris Foerster as consultant
It's the day a video of him snorting a white powdery substance in the Miami Dolphins' facility went viral. Shortly after, Foerster resigned, and he has not coached again in the NFL.
Technically, Foerster still isn't a coach, but rather a consultant for the 49ers, a role he has held since the 2018 offseason, as ESPN's Jenna Laine first reported Friday.
After the news broke, 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan spoke to NBC Sports Bay Area exclusively about Foerster, his role with the team and why he wants to help him on his path back to redemption. The two men spent four seasons together in Washington, where Shanahan was the offensive coordinator from 2010 to 2013.
"We found out about it [the video] when the whole world found out about it," Shanahan said. "When it happened, we were as shocked as anyone, from my wife to anybody. It's nothing I'd want to stick up for. These are extremely bad things that I know he's not proud of, and I'm not proud of.
"He did something extremely stupid, and since then, he has hit rock bottom. He went to rehab for 60 days, and then he was in a 90-day outpatient rehab. For the last two years, he's been in a 12-step program that he's been to every single night seven days a week."
Shanahan also explained why the 49ers didn't make Foerster's role with the team public from the beginning.
"If he was fully on our coaching staff, going to practice and going to games, I understand that it's something that I'd have to address, but he's not," Shanahan said. "He's in a consulting role. A lot of teams have consultants. I understand the ramifications of that, and why people will ask why I didn't say anything about it."
Shanahan made his feelings about Foerster's actions very clear, which is why giving him a second chance does not come without restrictions.
"He is still in a consulting role because I do understand the seriousness of this matter," Shanahan said. "We're trying to ease him back in. I understand how big of a problem he did have. I also understand what he's doing in committing to fix that problem. We're trying to give him a chance to get back on track.
"I also understand that people make huge mistakes, and ... he's trying to make amends and he's trying to make it right."
Technically, NFL rules state that a consultant without a coaching or team contract is allowed to participate on the field during practice but not during games. Foerster, however, has been relegated to watching film and attending position group and team meetings.
Shanahan explained that it has been a gradual process in which Foerster has had to earn his way back into a role with the team. It was a calculated risk Shanahan was willing to take.
"To help him with a job and make some money, and also because he's good at it, we gave him a consulting role last year," Shanahan said. "He helped us from afar with advanced scouting reports and things like that. He would just look at teams the week ahead and send us some information, all typed up because he was never in town.
"This year, we took it a step forward. We brought him in part-time but still a consultant, but he is in the office at times. He's able to do things like watch film with us, but he's still in a consulting role."
Shanahan and the 49ers are holding Foerster to a high standard — possibly higher than anyone else in the building. Thus far, he has done everything they have asked of him.
"We are not going to act like flat out it didn't happen and just let him back in right away," Shanahan said. "We are taking a very slow process, and that's why we did the first year the way we did and why it led to the second year."
Ultimately, Shanahan and the 49ers have given Foerster a chance to rebuild his professional life while he tries to piece back together his personal life as well.
"He's done that exactly the right way for two years," Shanahan said. "We will see if he continues to do that, and then we will reassess that after this year. If it continues to go well, I think he has a chance to get his life back on track. And that's really all we are trying to do."
Shanahan believes that no matter where Foerster is, as long as he stays on the straight and narrow, he is a valuable asset.
"Whether it helps him with the 49ers or helps him somewhere else, I know he's a good coach who went through a very hard time, made some huge mistakes that he is dealing with, and deserves to deal with those because they were messed-up things," Shanahan said. "I also know how he feels about those mistakes and what he's done over the last two years to try and make amends, and I know he's continuing to do that.
"I'm just pulling for him that he can keep up with it. If he does keep up with it, then whether it's with the 49ers or with someone else, you're going to get a good person and a good coach. I'm just really hoping that he can get back to being the healthy guy I knew in Washington, and that's what I see so far."
Personally, I'd rather ShanaLynch hire a talented college OLine coach and have Foerster train him and get him up to NFL speed. This guy kind of reminds me a bit of Reuben Foster but from the coaching side. I've volunteered in the inner city and these things are really tough to combat and he's going back to the environment that led him to those addictions in the first place. He has a very tough road to travel. At this point in time, I'd rather have Benton than Foester - and ShanaLynch look for a coach to push Benton. As for Foester, personally I'd like to have him scout the 2020 class of OLinemen. That's about it.
Great read. Thanks Hero.
What exactly is he providing advanced scouting on? Najee Toran? Brunskill? Gilliam?
Either way, hope he can stay on the straight and narrow and keep beating this addiction.
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:Originally posted by NinerGM:So I disagree with the article that Martz was the reason Foerster wasn't retained in SF when Harbs came to town. Foerster kept insisting Chilo Rachal was a starter, fought for him despite what we all saw every Sunday with our own eyes.
We're looking more like the Redskins than the Falcons.
Foerster wasn't brought in to make personnel decisions. He was brought in to to help out Kyle with whatever he needs and prove that he's been rehabilitated. If he proves himself, Kyle and John likely recommend him to other teams.
Yeah, he doesn't make personnel decisions but provides advanced scouting reports. I hope when the team gives him a name like Najee Toran, he simply writes back, "Are you high?" Maybe they are just testing him. LOL
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I think Donnie is right. They are just trying to help a fellow human get back on his feet. There are a lot of coaches in college that can coach the ZBS, I think the OLine coach here at San Jose State (for example) employs the ZBS. I think there are plenty of man blocking coaches that have the talent to coach both systems. Specially OLine guys that played under Alex Gibbs. Right now I dont think Foetster is in any way a challenge to Benton, the way Kiffen was to Zigonina (for example) or Woods/Kocureck is to Salah.Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by DonnieDarko:Originally posted by NinerGM:So I disagree with the article that Martz was the reason Foerster wasn't retained in SF when Harbs came to town. Foerster kept insisting Chilo Rachal was a starter, fought for him despite what we all saw every Sunday with our own eyes.
We're looking more like the Redskins than the Falcons.
Foerster wasn't brought in to make personnel decisions. He was brought in to to help out Kyle with whatever he needs and prove that he's been rehabilitated. If he proves himself, Kyle and John likely recommend him to other teams.
Yeah, he doesn't make personnel decisions but provides advanced scouting reports. I hope when the team gives him a name like Najee Toran, he simply writes back, "Are you high?" Maybe they are just testing him. LOL
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Originally posted by NCommand:
This cracked me up.
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— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) August 24, 2019
I think its super unprofessional and ignorant.
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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by DonnieDarko:Originally posted by NinerGM:So I disagree with the article that Martz was the reason Foerster wasn't retained in SF when Harbs came to town. Foerster kept insisting Chilo Rachal was a starter, fought for him despite what we all saw every Sunday with our own eyes.
We're looking more like the Redskins than the Falcons.
Foerster wasn't brought in to make personnel decisions. He was brought in to to help out Kyle with whatever he needs and prove that he's been rehabilitated. If he proves himself, Kyle and John likely recommend him to other teams.
Yeah, he doesn't make personnel decisions but provides advanced scouting reports. I hope when the team gives him a name like Najee Toran, he simply writes back, "Are you high?" Maybe they are just testing him. LOL
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Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:Originally posted by NCommand:This cracked me up.
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— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) August 24, 2019
I think its super unprofessional and ignorant.
K.
Have you read through this thread?
What are you doing @49ers ? @JedYork ? This is embarrassing- y'all let Aldon practice THE MORNING of a drunk driving accident, enabled his behavior allowing him to play vs Indy & now you've clearly learned nothing - brining in the guy who was SNORTING ❄️ AT WORK - super classy
— Joe Shasky (@ButcherBoy415) August 24, 2019
This year is setting up to be either absolutely miraculous and incredibly awesome or an utter dumpster fire - Jesus - I get throwing your friend a bone but your career is on the line KS, I just don't get it - I hope I'm proven wrong but nothing feels positive RN in Santa Clara
— Joe Shasky (@ButcherBoy415) August 24, 2019
So salty.
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Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:
I think its super unprofessional and ignorant.
+1
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Originally posted by Giedi:I think Donnie is right. They are just trying to help a fellow human get back on his feet. There are a lot of coaches in college that can coach the ZBS, I think the OLine coach here at San Jose State (for example) employs the ZBS. I think there are plenty of man blocking coaches that have the talent to coach both systems. Specially OLine guys that played under Alex Gibbs. Right now I dont think Foetster is in any way a challenge to Benton, the way Kiffen was to Zigonina (for example) or Woods/Kocureck is to Salah.
Agreed. No challenge to Benton but if he keeps progressing, next step is FT here. It sounds like he's getting there too. Good for him. From Scotty M. to Aldon (unknown ATT) to Chris, this FO has always taken chances on addicts.
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by NYniner85:Who cares lol dudes been coaching OLs since the 80s
*insert Adam Gase smelling salts gif
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There you are pushing your agenda again.
LOL. I love the noob.
Samerson449 - quit pushing your agenda (to everyone)
cciowa - we were told (to everyone)
Tough choice there.
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Originally posted by NCommand:K.
Have you read through this thread?
What are you doing @49ers ? @JedYork ? This is embarrassing- y'all let Aldon practice THE MORNING of a drunk driving accident, enabled his behavior allowing him to play vs Indy & now you've clearly learned nothing - brining in the guy who was SNORTING ❄️ AT WORK - super classy
— Joe Shasky (@ButcherBoy415) August 24, 2019This year is setting up to be either absolutely miraculous and incredibly awesome or an utter dumpster fire - Jesus - I get throwing your friend a bone but your career is on the line KS, I just don't get it - I hope I'm proven wrong but nothing feels positive RN in Santa Clara
— Joe Shasky (@ButcherBoy415) August 24, 2019
So salty.
Who the fook is that? Hey if he can whip that OL in shape I don't give a s**t if he's blasting lines.
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