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cciowa
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by JayBomber:
Niners win 21-17
Jimmy 2 TDs (Deebo, Pettis)
Breida 1 TD
Ford & Dbuck 1 sack each
Bosa with 3 sacks
bosa ford and buck sound really nice. all we need from the 4th guy is to be respectable. i appreciate the team upgrading the linebackers as well.
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The key to this game is going to be keeping the ball on the ground and keeping it away from Tampa's offense and creating constant pressure when they do have it. Winston is prone to making some awful decisions with the football when pressured so they can't give him time to setup in the pocket and throw down the field.
For when the offense does pass, Bowles is going to send 1,000 guys blitzing from all different angles, especially those dangerous triple A gap blitzes that he is known for. The OL is going to need to have their communication down with each guy understanding his assigments clearly because they will be coming from every direction.
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Originally posted by IHATELOWELLCOHN:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by cciowa:
i predict we come out not ready to play ,,, again... spot them a 2 score lead. come back , make it a game. lose close 28-24 and add another moral victory trophy to the case
I feel sorry for your mother
the best thing that ever happened to me is when she died
Wow
Wait, what? How did we get on this subject? Lets get back to the game yeah?
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Phoenix49ers
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https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bucs/2019/09/01/which-unit-will-be-the-bucs-biggest-problem/
The Bucs have skilled players all over the field. They will win or lose based on how the offensive and defensive lines play. Already the Bucs will begin the season without defensive tackle Vita Vea. Defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh hasn't dominated for several years. So the Bucs need to find a way to stop the run and push the pocket with Suh, Beau Allen and William Gholston. They can't play every down, and the rotation is weak. And if that unit doesn't hold up, Carl Nassib will have trouble getting pressure from the outside.
The offensive line is stable but wafer thin. An injury to tackles Donovan Smith or Demar Dotson would wreck the season. Dotson hasn't played 16 games in a season for quite some time. Like any level of football, the Bucs will go as far as their offensive and defensive lines can take them.
For sure, the offensive line is a concern, especially the right side, which features an inexperienced Alex Cappa at guard and an aging Demar Dotson at tackle. Make no mistake, the Bucs are concerned, too — they wanted to draft Oklahoma's Cody Ford in April, but the Bills snapped him up. Still, the lack of depth on the other side of the ball might prove to be more problematic. Even with a new coordinator and a marked shift in defensive philosophy, the pass rush remains highly suspect. In 2017, the Bucs ranked last in pressure rate (24.8 percent), according to Sports Info Solutions.
In 2018, they ranked 31st (25 percent), and that was after they traded for defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul. Now Pierre-Paul is out indefinitely as he recovers from a serious neck injury. Ndamukong Suh replaces Gerald McCoy, but that's not a swap that will move the needle much in terms of pressure. So then where will the pressure come from? Sure, Todd Bowles has an arsenal of blitzes, but his scheme can do only so much. When he was the head coach of the Jets from 2015 through 2018, his defenses were aggressive, too, but they weren't particularly successful in generating pressure. They ranked sixth, 21st, 18th and 25th in pressure rate. Tampa Bay's defensive backs are going to have to smother receivers.
The losses of Gerald McCoy and Jason Pierre-Paul put the pass rush squarely in trouble, about 20 sacks down, and its only hope is Todd Bowles mixes up blitzes, Nassib going from underrated to rated. Bowles better find a way to mix and match, but it will be a constant thorn in the side of the season.
Is there a worse return on unit investment in the league than the Bucs' offensive line, which at $46.2 million cap dollars is the NFL's fourth-highest paid line. The team has 25 percent of its salary cap tied up in a unit that doesn't run block and, from the looks of the Browns preseason game, is going to struggle protecting Winston. Nothing against Donovan Smith and Ryan Jensen. I'm sure they're fine fellows, but getting in the way of defenders doesn't appear to be their gift. No other unit puts the season in more imminent danger.
A healthy Bosa and Ford should be able to have their way with the Bucs OL. Even just having one of those guys will be huge but they need help from Buckner and the other guys rotating inside.
The OL should be able to hold up fine on the edges against Tampa's lack of edge rush but the guys inside will have to play tough against Suh who isn't the guy he was four years ago but still a very good DL.
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If the Niners' pass rush wins on most plays, and the Niners' offense controls the ball -- they have a good chance to win.
Copy/paste for 15 more weeks.
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If we run and pass really well and the defense plays well and forces a couple of turnovers and we score more than they do-------------WE WIN!!!!! Seriously, I think we win this game if Bosa and Ford play because of the lift the whole team will get. They need to get off to a good start because the schedule is really tough in the second half of the season. Can't afford to give any games away.
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MarkD
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bucs/2019/09/01/which-unit-will-be-the-bucs-biggest-problem/
The offensive line is stable but wafer thin. An injury to tackles Donovan Smith or Demar Dotson would wreck the season. Dotson hasn't played 16 games in a season for quite some time. Like any level of football, the Bucs will go as far as their offensive and defensive lines can take them.
For sure, the offensive line is a concern, especially the right side, which features an inexperienced Alex Cappa at guard and an aging Demar Dotson at tackle. Make no mistake, the Bucs are concerned, too — they wanted to draft Oklahoma's Cody Ford in April, but the Bills snapped him up. Still, the lack of depth on the other side of the ball might prove to be more problematic. Even with a new coordinator and a marked shift in defensive philosophy, the pass rush remains highly suspect. In 2017, the Bucs ranked last in pressure rate (24.8 percent), according to Sports Info Solutions.
A healthy Bosa and Ford should be able to have their way with the Bucs OL. Even just having one of those guys will be huge but they need help from Buckner and the other guys rotating inside.
The OL should be able to hold up fine on the edges against Tampa's lack of edge rush but the guys inside will have to play tough against Suh who isn't the guy he was four years ago but still a very good DL.
Looks like 99 is jerking on the field.
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Jamespowers:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by HERN:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by cciowa:
i predict we come out not ready to play ,,, again... spot them a 2 score lead. come back , make it a game. lose close 28-24 and add another moral victory trophy to the case
I feel sorry for your mother
the best thing that ever happened to me is when she died
You need a hug CC?
no, i am fine. people asked for predictions. i gave them mine. if we win i will give lots of credit where its due. will really help if bosa and ford both play. the secondary needs all the help it can get. the issue with the o line has been well documented. i know we have a fine run game. the best tight end in the nfl and a great rookie wide out. and i hope we will see passes in the flat to the backs esp juice. above all.. i hope we come out, in different time zone ready to play
Glad its a late game thankfully
yes., gives them a few hours to sleep in. man, in the jh era . the game at minnesota at noon haunts me. we acted like we had no desire to play that game
The game where Christian Ponder ran all over us? Yes, that was bad.