2019 PRACTICE SQUAD THREAD

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Quality starter level NFL tackles are going to eat Moore's lunch. So really it doesn't matter one way or the other honestly. For what it is worth, I have more faith in Blair as a pass rusher than I did in Moore.

Don't ever compare Blair to Moore or Marsh ever again. Please bruh, just don't

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Because you're either Von Miller or a scrub? You can't just be a decent depth piece?

At least that is what most people expected. They'd rather have him playing edge than Armstead and Solly, which is what Saleh will do if Ford and Bosa have injuries.

I don't think he is even a decent depth piece. He has 1.5 sacks in the past 4 seasons. He has been in and around the league since 2013. People keep talking about his potential but the dude has had years and countless opportunities to show something and he just hasn't.

He is a classic preseason superstar. Just enough talent to tantalize fans with his ability to work 2nd and 3rd stringers but not a guy who can win against frontline NFL linemen.

He'll definitely tear it up in the XFL though.

so if Ford and Bosa are down to injury, you'd rather have Solomon Thomas / Armstead and Blair playing defensive end as a backup? We'd rather have Armstead/Solly playing out of position. Because thats what the Niners are doing. And this is how the roster is constructed....

So now we are looking at sacks as a measurement of success. So why is Thomas constantly in the starting lineup as a Base LEO when we've already established that he can't win versus starting NFL tackles and hes had zero production. Whats the difference between him....or Marsh...or Moore?

My complaint isn't so much that we let released Damontre Moore. But we're still consistently constructing this unbalanced defensive line with too many interior players that are expected to backup our two starting edge rushers that have shown some question marks in their ability to stay healthy.

anyway...it is whatever. I hope Ford and Bosa stay healthy, so this scenario doesn't even happen.

This is some odd odd logic there you're trying to explain to deaf ears.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Quality starter level NFL tackles are going to eat Moore's lunch. So really it doesn't matter one way or the other honestly. For what it is worth, I have more faith in Blair as a pass rusher than I did in Moore.

Interesting given Blair isn't even an edge rusher. At all.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Interesting given Blair isn't even an edge rusher. At all.

And Moore isn't much of anything period.



There is a reason why he keeps getting cut on a regular basis. He's not an NFL caliber player.

Lol I take Blair instead of Moore any day of the week

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Interesting given Blair isn't even an edge rusher. At all.

And Moore isn't much of anything period.

There is a reason why he keeps getting cut on a regular basis. He's not an NFL caliber player.

3rd round talent and lead all ER's with 17 QB pressures and 3 sacks and played from both sides, stuffing TFL, blowing up screens, playing with an arm cast and still standing out.

As to his past, sounds like he needed to grow up. Kid was fighting hard, had a kid and now he has vision and purpose, something Saleh talked about.

To each his own but if we're running AA, ST and RB out there at end, I don't wanna hear about the lack of QB pressures and sacks. From a skill set perspective, I saw more in one pre season game from him than AA, ST & RB combined. Those are NOT edge rushers esp. in a W9.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting given Blair isn't even an edge rusher. At all.

And Moore isn't much of anything period.

There is a reason why he keeps getting cut on a regular basis. He's not an NFL caliber player.

3rd round talent and lead all ER's with 17 QB pressures and 3 sacks and played from both sides, stuffing TFL, blowing up screens, playing with an arm cast and still standing out.

As to his past, sounds like he needed to grow up. Kid was fighting hard, had a kid and now he has vision and purpose, something Saleh talked about.

To each his own but if we're running AA, ST and RB out there, I don't wanna hear about the lack of QB pressures and sacks.

If Ford or Bosa get injured to the point that we need more than just Blair starting to fill in for them then Moore is most likely back on the team.

But if Ford and Bosa miss significant time our defense is in trouble anyway.

Originally posted by captveg:

If Ford or Bosa get injured to the point that we need more than just Blair starting to fill in for them then Moore is most likely back on the team.

But of Ford and Bosa miss significant time our defense is in trouble anyway.

Plausible but players lose momentum and game conditioning waiting around. He may never get picked up for various reasons. I like where you're going there though. They still have Valouga on the PS as well.

Yeah, exactly why you do need ER's. If either go down (or are over used) it's back to the molasses-rush.

Did Moore get picked up off waivers?

Originally posted by miked1978:
Did Moore get picked up off waivers?

As a vested vet he doesn't go through waivers. He's simply a free agent.

Originally posted by miked1978:
Did Moore get picked up off waivers?

According to Matt Maiocco, none of the 49er cuts had been picked up as of about 1:00 PM PDT.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Did Moore get picked up off waivers?

As a vested vet he doesn't go through waivers. He's simply a free agent.

Which means any of 32 teams can pick him up, including us, and Nobody did.

Here is what I think is going on. Fan's are looking for player balance by position, for This Year. Lynch and Shanahan are looking to lock in the best players going forward building for that Super Bowl. They are not sacrificing better talent that can be useful in a SB run for a better position fit this year with average or backup players in the unlikely event we have multiple injuries at a given position. Might that mean someone plays out of position at some point? Small chance per position, but that's why the emphasis on versatility. Is that ideal? No. Does that preserve our talent build up? Yes, because you can only add so much talent per year. Don't spend your capital on average players that aren't going to help you when you need them.

So just maybe a DT will have to fill in at Edge, but in a couple of years when this physical game takes a toll an a few players, we've still got that DT, and didn't have to forgo filling in another position of need. Same with CB filling in at safety. Takes multiple injuries to cause a move, so take that chance for our long term progress.

My take: Lynch and Shanahan have their eyes on the ball, and that is multiple Lombardi's, and they're not going to let short term expediency and practice glory get in the way. Nobody is counting second place finishes. Good and better does not get you past 31 teams.

Smart teams win Super Bowls, and we haven't been that since 1994. Now, I think we are.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Did Moore get picked up off waivers?

As a vested vet he doesn't go through waivers. He's simply a free agent.

Which means any of 32 teams can pick him up, including us, and Nobody did.

Here is what I think is going on. Fan's are looking for player balance by position, for This Year. Lynch and Shanahan are looking to lock in the best players going forward building for that Super Bowl. They are not sacrificing better talent that can be useful in a SB run for a better position fit this year with average or backup players in the unlikely event we have multiple injuries at a given position. Might that mean someone plays out of position at some point? Small chance per position, but that's why the emphasis on versatility. Is that ideal? No. Does that preserve our talent build up? Yes, because you can only add so much talent per year. Don't spend your capital on average players that aren't going to help you when you need them.

So just maybe a DT will have to fill in at Edge, but in a couple of years when this physical game takes a toll an a few players, we've still got that DT, and didn't have to forgo filling in another position of need. Same with CB filling in at safety. Takes multiple injuries to cause a move, so take that chance for our long term progress.

My take: Lynch and Shanahan have their eyes on the ball, and that is multiple Lombardi's, and they're not going to let short term expediency and practice glory get in the way. Nobody is counting second place finishes. Good and better does not get you past 31 teams.

Smart teams win Super Bowls, and we haven't been that since 1994. Now, I think we are.

I mean, we're just talking a 3rd rotational ER in a W9 to help keep Bosa and Ford fresh. There's big value in that. I don't believe he is a cornerstone building block here but every winning team needs these kinds of key role players.

But I do like your team building philosophy overall. That's a really good take.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Did Moore get picked up off waivers?

As a vested vet he doesn't go through waivers. He's simply a free agent.

Which means any of 32 teams can pick him up, including us, and Nobody did.

Here is what I think is going on. Fan's are looking for player balance by position, for This Year. Lynch and Shanahan are looking to lock in the best players going forward building for that Super Bowl. They are not sacrificing better talent that can be useful in a SB run for a better position fit this year with average or backup players in the unlikely event we have multiple injuries at a given position. Might that mean someone plays out of position at some point? Small chance per position, but that's why the emphasis on versatility. Is that ideal? No. Does that preserve our talent build up? Yes, because you can only add so much talent per year. Don't spend your capital on average players that aren't going to help you when you need them.

So just maybe a DT will have to fill in at Edge, but in a couple of years when this physical game takes a toll an a few players, we've still got that DT, and didn't have to forgo filling in another position of need. Same with CB filling in at safety. Takes multiple injuries to cause a move, so take that chance for our long term progress.

My take: Lynch and Shanahan have their eyes on the ball, and that is multiple Lombardi's, and they're not going to let short term expediency and practice glory get in the way. Nobody is counting second place finishes. Good and better does not get you past 31 teams.

Smart teams win Super Bowls, and we haven't been that since 1994. Now, I think we are.

I mean, we're just talking a 3rd rotational ER in a W9 to help keep Bosa and Ford fresh. There's big value in that. I don't believe he is a cornerstone building block here but every winning team needs these kinds of key role players.

But I do like your team building philosophy overall. That's a really good take.

But I think Lynch and Shanny Do think Blair is a cornerstone player that can not beat out our number ones on the line, but would be starting for many other teams. He's our rotational player to keep people fresh, inside and if necessary out on a selected down and distance and game situational basis. It's not who you get. It's who you lose. Who ya gonna cut?

Originally posted by NCommand:

I mean, we're just talking a 3rd rotational ER in a W9 to help keep Bosa and Ford fresh. There's big value in that. I don't believe he is a cornerstone building block here but every winning team needs these kinds of key role players.

But I do like your team building philosophy overall. That's a really good take.

I think Blair is a good Edge Rusher backup vs Moore. I think he's younger and has a bit more upside. Blair also can play inside - with his versatility. So I think they were thinking that Blair can spell both Ford and Bosa when they get fatigued, and so can Solomon. Now, Solomon isn't an edge rusher, but again - just to spell Bosa and Ford, I think that's something he can do, and again, Blair is there.

Regarding a super bowl team. I think they have the two big pieces in place. Edge rusher and Franchise QB. Everything else is scheme specific, youth, depth, and talent. In other words, as long as you have the two main positions elite, your LB's OLine, WR'r, TE's and DB's RB's need to be just solid, and the defense can't have any weaknesses - and you have a team that has a good shot at the playoffs. Once in the playoffs, anything can happen.