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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
doesn't matter what receivers you have. if you don't have those important key mental QB traits then it doesn't matter; as well as the footwork to go with it
It doesn't matter if you have Joe Montana back there, if there's no Dwight Clark, there's noCatch
Originally posted by Niners_D:
Kaep was always in the weight-room. I always got the impression that he wanted to be 'one of the guys' instead of camping out in the film room and being a QB. To me that's what hurt him the most and held him back from having a higher degree of success in the league. He had it in him but for some reason didn't take advantage of it. I mean, look at Brady's body...not impressive at all...but he's a film room junkie which probably has a lot to do with his crazy fast release. He knows whats going on every play all the time.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
What held him back was 5 years playing read option at unlv where he maybe took 3 snaps under center a game with 2 drop backs.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:when will the defense be posted
Originally posted by SkyZer0:Originally posted by Giedi:I share everybody's peeve about Kaep. He couldn't read defenses anywhere near as fast as Jimmy.Originally posted by Aacadena:Originally posted by jonnydel:Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Jonny, fantastic as usual, only better. Showing how JG works their D is awesome. You have really made this not just enjoyable and fun but a great learning experience also...each and every week. But this was a capper. Go 9ers. And thanks again, JD.
I credit Jimmy for making 49ers film fun to watch again. Watching Beathard get beat to S*** in year 1 and 2 was awful. It really helped that he capped the year with a nearly flawless performance. Like, it's hard to describe what a difference in pocket passing he is from, say, Kaepernick. CK I was always wanting him to get through progressions quicker, look off defenders all the things JG does so well. It's watching the passing game as it's designed to be.
Amazing going from CK to Jimmy G. CK would struggle to read a defense, and its easy to see why Kyle didn't think he'd be a good fit for this offense. I remember when crabtree just left the niners and in an interview he said he hoped CK would keep his head in the books to study the playbook.
But also keep in mind, Jimmy has WR's that Kaep can only dream of. Emanuel, Kittle, DeeBo and Juice. All fast guys that can beat man and great hands to catch in zone traffic. Vernon Davis and Delanie walker were stone handed pass recievers, and Ted Ginn and Crabtree weren't reliable pass catchers either.
I'm very happy with Jimmy, don't get me wrong. He's our best chance at a Lombardie since Kaep, but Kaep was shortchanged by Baalke in my opinion once he lost his main weapons to free agency.
doesn't matter what receivers you have. if you don't have those important key mental QB traits then it doesn't matter; as well as the footwork to go with it
Originally posted by Dsoto87:Originally posted by SkyZer0:Originally posted by Giedi:I share everybody's peeve about Kaep. He couldn't read defenses anywhere near as fast as Jimmy.Originally posted by Aacadena:Originally posted by jonnydel:Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Jonny, fantastic as usual, only better. Showing how JG works their D is awesome. You have really made this not just enjoyable and fun but a great learning experience also...each and every week. But this was a capper. Go 9ers. And thanks again, JD.
I credit Jimmy for making 49ers film fun to watch again. Watching Beathard get beat to S*** in year 1 and 2 was awful. It really helped that he capped the year with a nearly flawless performance. Like, it's hard to describe what a difference in pocket passing he is from, say, Kaepernick. CK I was always wanting him to get through progressions quicker, look off defenders all the things JG does so well. It's watching the passing game as it's designed to be.
Amazing going from CK to Jimmy G. CK would struggle to read a defense, and its easy to see why Kyle didn't think he'd be a good fit for this offense. I remember when crabtree just left the niners and in an interview he said he hoped CK would keep his head in the books to study the playbook.
But also keep in mind, Jimmy has WR's that Kaep can only dream of. Emanuel, Kittle, DeeBo and Juice. All fast guys that can beat man and great hands to catch in zone traffic. Vernon Davis and Delanie walker were stone handed pass recievers, and Ted Ginn and Crabtree weren't reliable pass catchers either.
I'm very happy with Jimmy, don't get me wrong. He's our best chance at a Lombardie since Kaep, but Kaep was shortchanged by Baalke in my opinion once he lost his main weapons to free agency.
doesn't matter what receivers you have. if you don't have those important key mental QB traits then it doesn't matter; as well as the footwork to go with it
It's a stupid excuse. Jimmy's 5-0 run had the likes of Aldrick Robinson and Louis Murphy. Trent Taylor didn't look anywhere near as good until Jimmy came along. Jimmy was the reason Goodwin got an extension.
Kaep had Crabtree Boldin and VD to throw to at one point with gore coming out the backfield. Everyone wants to act like kaep had bums his entire career.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Originally posted by Giedi:I share everybody's peeve about Kaep. He couldn't read defenses anywhere near as fast as Jimmy.
But also keep in mind, Jimmy has WR's that Kaep can only dream of. Emanuel, Kittle, DeeBo and Juice. All fast guys that can beat man and great hands to catch in zone traffic. Vernon Davis and Delanie walker were stone handed pass recievers, and Ted Ginn and Crabtree weren't reliable pass catchers either.
I'm very happy with Jimmy, don't get me wrong. He's our best chance at a Lombardie since Kaep, but Kaep was shortchanged by Baalke in my opinion once he lost his main weapons to free agency.
They didn't remake the offense to take advantage of his skills like they did in Baltimore with Jackson where they realized that if they wanted to win they had to quit trying to make him a drop back QB. They changed it to utilize his running skills which they should have done with Kaep. Like you said, they didn't have great receivers and passing wasn't his strong point. He had an incredible arm but you never knew where the ball was going.
Originally posted by thl408:
Very nice breakdown of the offense jd. Jimmy really does show those little nuances that help earn the WRs just enough room, and himself just enough of a passing lane, to make it a throw he's comfortable with. His maturity when it comes to the little things seem to exceed his actual experience.
I thought this game was interesting from the 49er offense point of view. Playing a divisional opponent this late in the season, there are so many tendencies and film for opponents to evaluate and it's important to add wrinkles to make the go-to plays work. You covered most of the offense but I wanted to highlight one play that showed this aspect of Kyle and the adjustments he makes to keep the offense acting the same while looking just a bit different.
This is from the NO game and it's the Z cross flood concept with Sanders running the intermediate crosser. We've seen this play many times.
vs Cover 3
Playaction to draw up the four underneath defenders. Many teams run this type of Cover 3 where the weakside Hook defender (yellow) is responsible for any deep crossing routes.
The playaction works well to vertically stretch yellow. He's unable to turn around in time to cover Sanders' route.
Sanders runs across the field to go to open space. +15
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Against a defense that has studied and adapted to the 49ers' offense, Kyle gives this concept a wrinkle to counter SEA's ability to recognize the common plays that the 49ers like to call.
Juice lined up as an inline TE with Sanders tight to the formation - very similar to the play from NO.
vs Cover 3
After playaction, the weakside Hook (yellow, KJ Wright) has identified the crosser he's responsible for - Sanders. To account for the boundary deep 1/3 defender, the 49ers line up Kittle tight and keep him in to block - this occupies the sideline deep 1/3.
If Sanders continues on his crossing route, yellow Hook has it covered as he is quick to gain depth to head off the crossing route. Instead, Sanders cuts off his route, stops, and finds a passing lane between the two Hook defenders.
+12. It's little things like this that can make the same play a little different to get a similar result.
Originally posted by thl408:
Very nice breakdown of the offense jd. Jimmy really does show those little nuances that help earn the WRs just enough room, and himself just enough of a passing lane, to make it a throw he's comfortable with. His maturity when it comes to the little things seem to exceed his actual experience.
I thought this game was interesting from the 49er offense point of view. Playing a divisional opponent this late in the season, there are so many tendencies and film for opponents to evaluate and it's important to add wrinkles to make the go-to plays work. You covered most of the offense but I wanted to highlight one play that showed this aspect of Kyle and the adjustments he makes to keep the offense acting the same while looking just a bit different.
This is from the NO game and it's the Z cross flood concept with Sanders running the intermediate crosser. We've seen this play many times.
vs Cover 3
Playaction to draw up the four underneath defenders. Many teams run this type of Cover 3 where the weakside Hook defender (yellow) is responsible for any deep crossing routes.
The playaction works well to vertically stretch yellow. He's unable to turn around in time to cover Sanders' route.
Sanders runs across the field to go to open space. +15
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Against a defense that has studied and adapted to the 49ers' offense, Kyle gives this concept a wrinkle to counter SEA's ability to recognize the common plays that the 49ers like to call.
Juice lined up as an inline TE with Sanders tight to the formation - very similar to the play from NO.
vs Cover 3
After playaction, the weakside Hook (yellow, KJ Wright) has identified the crosser he's responsible for - Sanders. To account for the boundary deep 1/3 defender, the 49ers line up Kittle tight and keep him in to block - this occupies the sideline deep 1/3.
If Sanders continues on his crossing route, yellow Hook has it covered as he is quick to gain depth to head off the crossing route. Instead, Sanders cuts off his route, stops, and finds a passing lane between the two Hook defenders.
+12. It's little things like this that can make the same play a little different to get a similar result.
Originally posted by raywm3:
Great film review. I don't come away as enamored though as you. I do think we looked quite good but sooo many of Jimmy's completions were so, so tight into tiny windows. Which is awesome, but I just worry that a defensive adjustment by Seattle in the Playoffs will be enough to shut us down some. I didn't see us running wide open on too many plays.
Originally posted by thl408:Very nice breakdown of the offense jd. Jimmy really does show those little nuances that help earn the WRs just enough room, and himself just enough of a passing lane, to make it a throw he's comfortable with. His maturity when it comes to the little things seem to exceed his actual experience.
I thought this game was interesting from the 49er offense point of view. Playing a divisional opponent this late in the season, there are so many tendencies and film for opponents to evaluate and it's important to add wrinkles to make the go-to plays work. You covered most of the offense but I wanted to highlight one play that showed this aspect of Kyle and the adjustments he makes to keep the offense acting the same while looking just a bit different.
This is from the NO game and it's the Z cross flood concept with Sanders running the intermediate crosser. We've seen this play many times.
vs Cover 3
Playaction to draw up the four underneath defenders. Many teams run this type of Cover 3 where the weakside Hook defender (yellow) is responsible for any deep crossing routes.
The playaction works well to vertically stretch yellow. He's unable to turn around in time to cover Sanders' route.
Sanders runs across the field to go to open space. +15
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Against a defense that has studied and adapted to the 49ers' offense, Kyle gives this concept a wrinkle to counter SEA's ability to recognize the common plays that the 49ers like to call.
Juice lined up as an inline TE with Sanders tight to the formation - very similar to the play from NO.
vs Cover 3
After playaction, the weakside Hook (yellow, KJ Wright) has identified the crosser he's responsible for - Sanders. To account for the boundary deep 1/3 defender, the 49ers line up Kittle tight and keep him in to block - this occupies the sideline deep 1/3.
If Sanders continues on his crossing route, yellow Hook has it covered as he is quick to gain depth to head off the crossing route. Instead, Sanders cuts off his route, stops, and finds a passing lane between the two Hook defenders.
+12. It's little things like this that can make the same play a little different to get a similar result.
Originally posted by thl408:Very nice breakdown of the offense jd. Jimmy really does show those little nuances that help earn the WRs just enough room, and himself just enough of a passing lane, to make it a throw he's comfortable with. His maturity when it comes to the little things seem to exceed his actual experience.
I thought this game was interesting from the 49er offense point of view. Playing a divisional opponent this late in the season, there are so many tendencies and film for opponents to evaluate and it's important to add wrinkles to make the go-to plays work. You covered most of the offense but I wanted to highlight one play that showed this aspect of Kyle and the adjustments he makes to keep the offense acting the same while looking just a bit different.
This is from the NO game and it's the Z cross flood concept with Sanders running the intermediate crosser. We've seen this play many times.
vs Cover 3
Playaction to draw up the four underneath defenders. Many teams run this type of Cover 3 where the weakside Hook defender (yellow) is responsible for any deep crossing routes.
The playaction works well to vertically stretch yellow. He's unable to turn around in time to cover Sanders' route.
Sanders runs across the field to go to open space. +15
----------------------
Against a defense that has studied and adapted to the 49ers' offense, Kyle gives this concept a wrinkle to counter SEA's ability to recognize the common plays that the 49ers like to call.
Juice lined up as an inline TE with Sanders tight to the formation - very similar to the play from NO.
vs Cover 3
After playaction, the weakside Hook (yellow, KJ Wright) has identified the crosser he's responsible for - Sanders. To account for the boundary deep 1/3 defender, the 49ers line up Kittle tight and keep him in to block - this occupies the sideline deep 1/3.
If Sanders continues on his crossing route, yellow Hook has it covered as he is quick to gain depth to head off the crossing route. Instead, Sanders cuts off his route, stops, and finds a passing lane between the two Hook defenders.
+12. It's little things like this that can make the same play a little different to get a similar result.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
I'm glad you covered this one. That was a play I captured but it ended up on the cutting room floor
