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Coaches Film Analysis: 2019 Season

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Originally posted by Jaci:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by matguy87:
Jimmy said in his press conference that he thought he could fit that over Kendricks and that he under threw it.

Yeah, I saw that. Then Shanny said in his presser he thought it was a bad decision because there was no underneath route to affect the hook defender. I agree with Shanny.
You can see there was a window, albeit a tight one, but I don't think Shanahan wants to take that risk there. Jimmy is a confident guy and thinks he can get any ball into a tight window. Could he have? Maybe, but it still doesn't mean it was a good decision.

He really just needed to work the flat area on the other side of the field.

As you have been watching film this year, have you seen jimmy learning from these kind of mistakes? He is by all purposes still a 'young' qb in terms of starts. Or do you think this is just his mentality, he will take the risk if he thinks he can do it, and he is sticking with that? Basically the opposite of Captain Checkdown.

For the record, i really don't mind him slinging it as i have seen enough plays of him making some truly amazing throws. But i was curious how you think he is growing as a qb.

I think he's learning very well. I'm not seeing the same mistakes plague him over and over. Each INT that isnt the result of one bouncing odd his receivers hands seems to be the result of something different each time.

Overall, I'm extremely happy with his performance. Best QB I've seen on film for us and most other teams.
Originally posted by ProfessorKel:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by thl408:
Good stuff as always, jd.
The interior guys for the 49ers, on both sides of the ball, played a great game. The DTs were giving up no ground defending the run. The interior OL was moving the Vikings DL. Some real old school football going on. This game showed that the 49ers are still capable of winning by pounding the rock. Although they had put up good rushing totals vs NO/BAL it seemed like they weren't dominant performances like how it was vs CAR. Juice had a good game blocking. Baldy did a nice video on how instrumental he was.

I charted all the runs to see how the 49ers attacked the MIN defense and this is what I got (RB runs only):
Outside Zone = 18 runs for 82 yards = 4.6 avg
Inside Zone = 10 runs for 39 yards = 3.9 avg
Gap/Man = 14 runs for 60 yards = 4.3 avg

yards gained per run:
OZ runs: 2,6,0,5,7,1,8,5,7,6,6,4,4,2,11,0,6,2
IZ runs: 2,3,5,4,6,7,6,0,2,4
Gap/Man: 4,10,3,4,1,2,11,2,3,8,4,5,1,2

42 runs by RBs and 25 of them went for 4 or more yards. I'll show some of my favorite runs.

The power-gap is what surprised me. I remember someone argued when I said I thought Shanny should add more power-gap vs SEA that, "Shanahan isn't going to change his scheme for one game" and I argued that it's been in the playbook since he's been here, it's just not bread and butter. I think that power-man really caught those DT's off-guard when we ran it cause more often than not, they were ready to move laterally and got pushed around pretty easily.

Like Shanny said in his presser, the only reason we didn't put up a game like CAR was because Minn's got some real talent at Safety that kept those runs from becoming explosive.

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I have no plans of going anywhere
Originally posted by Jaci:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by matguy87:
I'm not sure how well he's been learning, but Jimmy always seems to bounce back from interceptions with good drives.

In this game because of the game script and how effective the ground game was, Jimmy wasn't able to bounce back. I'm confident that if the game were closer and Jimmy had to throw in the second half of the game people wouldn't have such a negative view of this game from Jimmy. Unfortunately one of his last throws was the interception so that is really affecting a lot of people's opinions of Jimmy in this game.

people always seem to miss this

I'm rooting for him to get these numbers without the INT
Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight:
What is your analyst of Jimmy G interception?

A pass he never should of thrown.

should have*

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight:
What is your analyst of Jimmy G interception?

A pass he never should of thrown.

Bad decision. We didn't have anything to hold kendricks underneath and Jimmy thought he could squeeze it on over him

yep, no vertical stretch

I hope he doesn't make the same mistakes this game. Can't afford to give the ball away.

Yes I feel the same. I was very disappointed with Jonnydel's grammatical error in his post. What I like though is Jonnydel is learning with each game and his posts are getting better as he learns from his mistakes. I think Jonnydel is a good choice for our franchise Youtuber.
Originally posted by thl408:
This was the most creative run I saw. Although it didn't result in big yards, it was a blocking scheme I hadn't seen the 49ers use beforeand they only did it once in this game. I'm sure they've run it before but I missed it during the season.
It's like a triple trap play vs 4-3 Over. MIN played a lot of 4-3 Over in this game.
Reds move to the second level. Yellows trap block.


Check out the opposite flow of the OLmen. Reds look like it's outside zone. Yellows are going the opposite direction. What's a LB supposed to read?


McG over runs his block on #50 or else this goes for more yards. But you can see that every box defender has a hat on him and is sealed off from the playside.


Only +4, but a well drawn up run play. Not sure why they never went back to this during the game.

Holy Cow, that's super interesting. A triple trap!?
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Originally posted by GoldandGarnet:
Holy Cow, that's super interesting. A triple trap!?

Olin Kreutz, a 14 year NFL veteran Center, is also puzzled what this blocking scheme is lol. Creative stuff. Wish the run popped for more than 4 yards. If only McG didn't over run that LB.
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight:
What is your analyst of Jimmy G interception?

A pass he never should of thrown.

should have*

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight:
What is your analyst of Jimmy G interception?

A pass he never should of thrown.

Bad decision. We didn't have anything to hold kendricks underneath and Jimmy thought he could squeeze it on over him

yep, no vertical stretch

I hope he doesn't make the same mistakes this game. Can't afford to give the ball away.

Yes I feel the same. I was very disappointed with Jonnydel's grammatical error in his post. What I like though is Jonnydel is learning with each game and his posts are getting better as he learns from his mistakes. I think Jonnydel is a good choice for our franchise Youtuber.

LMAO
Originally posted by GoldandGarnet:
Originally posted by thl408:
This was the most creative run I saw. Although it didn't result in big yards, it was a blocking scheme I hadn't seen the 49ers use beforeand they only did it once in this game. I'm sure they've run it before but I missed it during the season.
It's like a triple trap play vs 4-3 Over. MIN played a lot of 4-3 Over in this game.
Reds move to the second level. Yellows trap block.


Check out the opposite flow of the OLmen. Reds look like it's outside zone. Yellows are going the opposite direction. What's a LB supposed to read?


McG over runs his block on #50 or else this goes for more yards. But you can see that every box defender has a hat on him and is sealed off from the playside.


Only +4, but a well drawn up run play. Not sure why they never went back to this during the game.

Holy Cow, that's super interesting. A triple trap!?

I keep looking at the play and my sole thought is that this looks hard as hell to execute no matter how many times you practice this
Originally posted by grapesofrathman:
Originally posted by GoldandGarnet:
Originally posted by thl408:
This was the most creative run I saw. Although it didn't result in big yards, it was a blocking scheme I hadn't seen the 49ers use beforeand they only did it once in this game. I'm sure they've run it before but I missed it during the season.
It's like a triple trap play vs 4-3 Over. MIN played a lot of 4-3 Over in this game.
Reds move to the second level. Yellows trap block.


Check out the opposite flow of the OLmen. Reds look like it's outside zone. Yellows are going the opposite direction. What's a LB supposed to read?


McG over runs his block on #50 or else this goes for more yards. But you can see that every box defender has a hat on him and is sealed off from the playside.


Only +4, but a well drawn up run play. Not sure why they never went back to this during the game.

Holy Cow, that's super interesting. A triple trap!?

I keep looking at the play and my sole thought is that this looks hard as hell to execute no matter how many times you practice this

Amazing the plays that Shanahan keeps coming up with
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jonny's analysis is getting me jacked.
Originally posted by mayo49:
jonny's analysis is getting me jacked.


He is the Jack of all Jonnies
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Jonny Dell
Originally posted by thl408:
This was the most creative run I saw. Although it didn't result in big yards, it was a blocking scheme I hadn't seen the 49ers use beforeand they only did it once in this game. I'm sure they've run it before but I missed it during the season.
It's like a triple trap play vs 4-3 Over. MIN played a lot of 4-3 Over in this game.
Reds move to the second level. Yellows trap block.


Check out the opposite flow of the OLmen. Reds look like it's outside zone. Yellows are going the opposite direction. What's a LB supposed to read?


McG over runs his block on #50 or else this goes for more yards. But you can see that every box defender has a hat on him and is sealed off from the playside.


Only +4, but a well drawn up run play. Not sure why they never went back to this during the game.

I wonder if this is Shanahan's way of putting something on film for next week. Awesome run concept!
[ Edited by PowderdToastMn on Jan 16, 2020 at 5:16 AM ]
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by Jaci:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by matguy87:
Jimmy said in his press conference that he thought he could fit that over Kendricks and that he under threw it.

Yeah, I saw that. Then Shanny said in his presser he thought it was a bad decision because there was no underneath route to affect the hook defender. I agree with Shanny.
You can see there was a window, albeit a tight one, but I don't think Shanahan wants to take that risk there. Jimmy is a confident guy and thinks he can get any ball into a tight window. Could he have? Maybe, but it still doesn't mean it was a good decision.

He really just needed to work the flat area on the other side of the field.

As you have been watching film this year, have you seen jimmy learning from these kind of mistakes? He is by all purposes still a 'young' qb in terms of starts. Or do you think this is just his mentality, he will take the risk if he thinks he can do it, and he is sticking with that? Basically the opposite of Captain Checkdown.

For the record, i really don't mind him slinging it as i have seen enough plays of him making some truly amazing throws. But i was curious how you think he is growing as a qb.

I think he's learning very well. I'm not seeing the same mistakes plague him over and over. Each INT that isnt the result of one bouncing odd his receivers hands seems to be the result of something different each time.

Overall, I'm extremely happy with his performance. Best QB I've seen on film for us and most other teams.

[ Edited by Jaci on Jan 16, 2020 at 7:23 AM ]
Originally posted by PowderdToastMn:
Originally posted by thl408:
This was the most creative run I saw. Although it didn't result in big yards, it was a blocking scheme I hadn't seen the 49ers use beforeand they only did it once in this game. I'm sure they've run it before but I missed it during the season.
It's like a triple trap play vs 4-3 Over. MIN played a lot of 4-3 Over in this game.
Reds move to the second level. Yellows trap block.


Check out the opposite flow of the OLmen. Reds look like it's outside zone. Yellows are going the opposite direction. What's a LB supposed to read?


McG over runs his block on #50 or else this goes for more yards. But you can see that every box defender has a hat on him and is sealed off from the playside.


Only +4, but a well drawn up run play. Not sure why they never went back to this during the game.

I wonder if this is Shanahan's way of putting something on film for next week. Awesome run concept!

I think Kyle and McDaniels trying to mind fck the LB going forward into other games. You can see the 2 backers took a step and then mentally frozed because they are usually reading the Oline blocking flow.

Imagine Jimmy keeping the ball and throwing something behind those flat footed backers
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