Harbaugh's 2011 49ers VERSUS Shanahan's 2019 49ers(hypothetical)Who would win?

Originally posted by Joecool:
Loved watching the JH or Fangio 49ers Defense play. Hated watching the JH offense play. Every game left something empty.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

that 2012 secondary was nearly identical to 2011.

Tom had a 68 rating that game btw. He put up some yards and points but that will happen when you're down 28 and have to throw the ball 65 times. Did the same to Seattle's secondary when they were goat level.

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
that 2012 secondary was nearly identical to 2011.

Tom had a 68 rating that game btw. He put up some yards and points but that will happen when you're down 28 and have to throw the ball 65 times. Did the same to Seattle's secondary when they were goat level.

They cameback and tied the game in the 4th when Justin Smith went out, as soon as that Brady made our defense look like Swiss cheese. The team needed a Lamichael James kickoff return and Crabtree touchdown to escape NE with a victory but our defense was toast after that game.

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Willis was mediocre to kind of below average in pass-coverage, and Whitner was undersized and not that great in coverage either. However, our defense definitely tapered off towards the 2nd half of that 2012 season. Injuries we didn't know about at the time hindered Aldon and Justin smith. now, with Spoon and Sherman in I feel like our secondary is much more reliable and better equipped to handle a non existent pass rush, to an extent

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Loved watching the JH or Fangio 49ers Defense play. Hated watching the JH offense play. Every game left something empty.

dude re-watching the 2011 Saints game, and then the 2012 Packers game both with Alex and Kap, it honestly didnt matter which one was under center. sure Kap gave the offense a spark because of his athleticism, upside, and teams not knowing how to defend him, but reagardless the offense as a whole just looked (easier to see this now after being so used to Shanahan) stubborn and inefficient in multiple ways. Shanahan's offense is so much smarter and more creative. I feel so goddamn spoiled and grateful to have Kyle

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Willis was mediocre to kind of below average in pass-coverage, and Whitner was undersized and not that great in coverage either. However, our defense definitely tapered off towards the 2nd half of that 2012 season. Injuries we didn't know about at the time hindered Aldon and Justin smith. now, with Spoon and Sherman in I feel like our secondary is much more reliable and better equipped to handle a non existent pass rush, to an extent

Spoon was getting lit up without a pass rush last season. If for some reason Ford and Bosa got banged up and our pass rush dipped I wouldn't assume our secondary plays at it's current level. Saleh only blitzes at a 10% rate. A great d line is a requirement for his d because the corners will lose eventually.

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

why are you referring to last season with Spoon when he's been playing out of his mind this season? remember 2019 49ers vs 2011. Spoon did have a bad year last year, and has looked night and day this time around. that's why it sucks so bad he's out currently. we need him badly. if we lost pass rush currently without Witherspoon, im with you im not confident in our backend to hold it down. we need more pass rush than ever with him out

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by insanemike27:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

This thread was a bad idea. Lol

yeah, I never foresaw so many getting triggered over the thought. I just found it fascinating and pondered about what it'd be like if these 2 teams faced off head to head in a game. that's all

I think Staley vs Staley would be a stalemate.

OT's dont go up against OT's though. so itd be like, Staley vs. Aldon Smith, and then Staley vs Nick Bosa

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Loved watching the JH or Fangio 49ers Defense play. Hated watching the JH offense play. Every game left something empty.

dude re-watching the 2011 Saints game, and then the 2012 Packers game both with Alex and Kap, it honestly didnt matter which one was under center. sure Kap gave the offense a spark because of his athleticism, upside, and teams not knowing how to defend him, but reagardless the offense as a whole just looked (easier to see this now after being so used to Shanahan) stubborn and inefficient in multiple ways. Shanahan's offense is so much smarter and more creative. I feel so goddamn spoiled and grateful to have Kyle

Jed going through coaches like butter until he finally hit one.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
why are you referring to last season with Spoon when he's been playing out of his mind this season? remember 2019 49ers vs 2011. Spoon did have a bad year last year, and has looked night and day this time around. that's why it sucks so bad he's out currently. we need him badly. if we lost pass rush currently without Witherspoon, im with you im not confident in our backend to hold it down. we need more pass rush than ever with him out

Because you made the comment our secondary will hold without a pass rush. We already know the answer to that based off the last 2 years.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

I don't know about stacked. That secondary could hit but they were more of a byproduct of the front seven when it came to coverage. The front seven that year was one of the most ridiculous collections of talent that I've ever seen.

Originally posted by lamontb:
I'll never ever forget the defense letting Flacco look like Montana Jr in the super bowl. Just throwing up b******t passes all 1st half.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Loved watching the JH or Fangio 49ers Defense play. Hated watching the JH offense play. Every game left something empty.

dude re-watching the 2011 Saints game, and then the 2012 Packers game both with Alex and Kap, it honestly didnt matter which one was under center. sure Kap gave the offense a spark because of his athleticism, upside, and teams not knowing how to defend him, but reagardless the offense as a whole just looked (easier to see this now after being so used to Shanahan) stubborn and inefficient in multiple ways. Shanahan's offense is so much smarter and more creative. I feel so goddamn spoiled and grateful to have Kyle

Jed going through coaches like butter until he finally hit one.