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Harbaugh's 2011 49ers VERSUS Shanahan's 2019 49ers(hypothetical)Who would win?
Jan 22, 2020 at 2:53 PM
- Memphis9er
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This year's team is superior to the 2011 team in almost every way.
Jan 22, 2020 at 3:27 PM
- Thorhawk
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2019 offense is so far ahead of the 2011 offense that it's not even close. 2019 defense destroys Alex Smith. 2011 defense is only better at LB, defensive lines are similar, 2019 actually had more pressures and sacks. 2019 secondary is better than 2011. For all the talk about the 2011 49ers rushing attack 2019 ran for more yds and a much higher ypc. 2019 team is much better coached and has a much better scheme.
[ Edited by Thorhawk on Jan 22, 2020 at 3:30 PM ]
Jan 22, 2020 at 5:20 PM
- LasVegasWally
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Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by Snitch:
2011 D was superior, no question about it, but other than that, the 2019 shines in every way. In 2011 our offense sucked and we were one of the worst 3rd down team in the league. Our offense cost us the NFC championship game vs the Giants that year.
no question about 2011> to 2019 D? you sure about that? secondary was a liability in pass coverage. we had aldon and justin on the D-line which does not compare to the likes of bosa, armstead, buck, and dee fordit's like 4-2 there. id give our LB's the edge in 2011 but that's LITERALLY it...
Totally agree!
Feb 25, 2020 at 3:50 PM
- jcs
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So....
Feb 25, 2020 at 5:12 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by jcs:So....
They both suck and should be coaching a second rate college program...poorly.
Feb 25, 2020 at 9:41 PM
- TheBhagwan
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jcs:
So....
They both suck and should be coaching a second rate college program...poorly.
Harbaugh 2011 > Shanahan 2019
Harbaugh has more presence than kyle, kyle has that look that he knows he's gonna let u down at some point..
the window slightly opened for both roosters and closed pretty fast with all those contracts they have/had to do..
Bosa, Kittle and Warner are the core of the team, call me crazy but i don't know why you have to give all that money to buckner and armstead.
[ Edited by TheBhagwan on Feb 25, 2020 at 9:43 PM ]
Feb 25, 2020 at 9:55 PM
- TheBhagwan
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Originally posted by Thorhawk:
2019 offense is so far ahead of the 2011 offense that it's not even close. 2019 defense destroys Alex Smith. 2011 defense is only better at LB, defensive lines are similar, 2019 actually had more pressures and sacks. 2019 secondary is better than 2011. For all the talk about the 2011 49ers rushing attack 2019 ran for more yds and a much higher ypc. 2019 team is much better coached and has a much better scheme.
how can sherman, spoon, ward and tartt be better than rogers, TB, goldson and whitner ?!
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Feb 26, 2020 at 1:02 PM
- blizzuntz
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Shanny in the first half , Jim in the second half
Feb 26, 2020 at 1:33 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:Shanny in the first half , Jim in the second half
Neither in the 4Q though. LOL
Feb 26, 2020 at 1:40 PM
- blizzuntz
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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by blizzuntz:Shanny in the first half , Jim in the second half
Neither in the 4Q though. LOL
No , just not Shanny in the 4th .
Feb 26, 2020 at 1:49 PM
- English
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Originally posted by TheBhagwan:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by jcs:So....
They both suck and should be coaching a second rate college program...poorly.
Harbaugh 2011 > Shanahan 2019
Harbaugh has more presence than kyle, kyle has that look that he knows he's gonna let u down at some point..
the window slightly opened for both roosters and closed pretty fast with all those contracts they have/had to do..
Bosa, Kittle and Warner are the core of the team, call me crazy but i don't know why you have to give all that money to buckner and armstead.
Call you crazy, you say? Fair enough. If you dont see their importance there seems no point in arguing. I consider Buckner and Armstead to be the bedrock of the D.
Mar 1, 2020 at 8:57 PM
- pasodoc9er
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Originally posted by TheBhagwan:Harbaugh 2011 > Shanahan 2019
Harbaugh has more presence than kyle, kyle has that look that he knows he's gonna let u down at some point..
the window slightly opened for both roosters and closed pretty fast with all those contracts they have/had to do..
Bosa, Kittle and Warner are the core of the team, call me crazy but i don't know why you have to give all that money to buckner and armstead.
That's it Bhagwan, harbaw had more presence than kyle? Hmmm. You mean more presence by acting like a 4 yr old having a temper tantrum, or hissy fit? You remember where his black sweatshirt and khaki pants are almost horizontal as harbs jumped around complaining about 1 out of every 5 calls by the refs? Where harbs is over on the sideline screaming, yelling acting like a child , hand wringing, pleading with refs, and basically, showing ZERO self control....
Now i agree some of that was called for, because the "QB" Whisperer"...knew NO offense. Sure i would have been dancing around like harbaw also, if i had no idea how to call an O. I mean zero knowledge. He was gifted a terrific D, but when it came to O, he clung to Roman....because the OC at least knew some O. But since he was so inept on O, he danced around on any questionable call like a depressed old man who was both constipated and depressed.
He was goofy, he was awkward, he somehow knew no O even tho given the totally mischaracterized moniker "QB whisperer". Good grief , he was anything but. As for presence, that is just a perverted joke, Bhagwan, and makes me wonder if you actually ever even saw him. Because if you did....the last thing you would ever say about harbs was that he had presence. Unfortunately, he was an embarrassment on the sideline, almost as bad as he was totally inept at in calling the O.
More presence? Bhagwan, you need to review any 49er game under harbaw and then you need to look up the word "PRESENCE". You will find that is one quality harbaw knew nothing about nor did he have an ounce of it in him. He was a good organizer, and for 2 yrs gave us respectability....if you could ignore his juvenile goings on while on the sideline on any call he thot was against us. But presence? The man had no idea what it was and was poster boy for "that screaming fool on the sideline" . He was the first 9er coach to organize the talent that had been acquired as we continued to pick in the top 3 yr after yr. But after that his skill sets fell off rapidly....and Bhagwan....presence was not one of them.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Mar 1, 2020 at 9:02 PM ]
Mar 1, 2020 at 9:27 PM
- Niners99
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Harbaugh couldn't challenge the right plays to save his life, refused to fix his horrific play clock issues, constantly acted like a crybaby on the sideline every time things didn't go his way, and had the most dysfunctional playcalling system ive ever heard of.
The Kaepernick offense was a gimmick that didn't age well in a league that's constantly adapting.
The Kaepernick offense was a gimmick that didn't age well in a league that's constantly adapting.
Mar 1, 2020 at 9:31 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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They would somehow both mess it up and the game would just in a tie with no SB winner.
Mar 2, 2020 at 1:33 PM
- golfish
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Well, I think if Harbaugh had stayed we would have at least one more ring.