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The Niners WR position and why I think trading for another WR is a mistake

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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by kelson49er:
The OP and those fervently agreeing are making the mistake of overvaluing our own players. Every single fan base is going to see "potential" in their own guys. It's because you're a prisoner to seeing them ball in the preseason, and then seeing a few flash plays every year. The "what if" keeps you from seeing what career NFL talent evaluators are likely seeing, combined with the latent hope that "our guys" who we drafted and have become attached to will become stars. Our wanting and hoping overrides pretty clear and evident truths.

Here are some examples from recent history at other positions. Think about Cassius Marsh for a second. We all saw him flash in 2017 and thought, "wow, this guy could be good, it would be awesome if he got it together and balled out." Many of us thought he could be a real NFL starter. Now look at Bosa -- absolutely no comparison. Just complete night and day. Bosa is what a real NFL starter/star looks like. Same at QB. Gosh golly gee whiz, CJ Beathard showed some moxie in his starts in 2017, even arguably a spark for our offense as compared to Hoyer. It would have been a really cool story and feeling if he became a real NFL QB. But then, Jimmy came and we instantly saw the difference and what a real NFL QB looks like.

If we dropped Bourne tomorrow, he would just be 4th/5th option on a different team at best, if not completely clear waivers and sit for a while. If Goodwin doesn't re-sign with us this off-season, there will not be a bidding war for his services. He'll become a #3ish receiver on a "meh" team. Meanwhile, let's say in some fantasy world we grabbed AJ Green. He would instantly be our #1 option on the outside and none of us would really question it. Just a mere eyeball test after about a game or so would make people forget about all the dudes we argue about now. It would be the same as it was when we saw Bosa compared to what came before, or when we saw Jimmy in comparison to his predecessors.

All that said, here's my realistic WR roster assessment:
- Goodwin: he's okay, but we should be fine letting him walk or re-signing him to only a 1-2y deal on the cheap;
- Pettis: I've seen enough to be perfectly fine if Kyle wants to jettison him this offseason. There's potential if he sticks around, but again...just potential right now.
- Samuel: Keeper so far, but I haven't seen anything that screams "#1 option." He's a complimentary piece.
- Hurd: big wild card, have to keep him and see how it shakes out.
- Taylor: again, all we have is a flash and potential and kind words from the coach. If he can't get healthy and perform in real games soon, he has to go.
- James: a few flashes, but one would think that if he could fill Taylor's role or be a consistent contributor, he'd be on the field more.
- Bourne: see above, great kid but he just doesn't have the tools to ever break through to be an average/above average starter
- Matthews: completely expendable. Again, if he was the dependable vet people want to think he is, he'd be on the field catching passes given our abysmal receiver performance.

Moral of the story: don't let sentiment and your proximity bias to this team affect your judgment. We don't have a true #1 or even really a dependable #2 right now. If we did, we'd all see it in games because we have a coach who would exploit it and (probably) a QB who would reliably get him the ball. We really kinda suck at WR right now, and I think we've seen enough from all but Deebo and Hurd to know that they probably won't become consistently good NFL players.

Kyle disagrees with you.

Go on.
Originally posted by DJamhour:
Any of our WR's gonna be traded, even tho they wont be worth much lol? or simply cut

probably not until Taylor and Hurd are either healthy or done for the year. Then probably Mathews goes, maybe one other but I have my doubts. In the offseason though? all bets are off for anyone not named Deebo and Hurd.
I guess Kyle wasn't happy with his guys. LOL
I wasnt thrilled with the idea of giving up draft picks in a draft where we are already without our 2nd rounder, but Sanders immediately helps this WR corps. Cant be upset at that.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Well this confirms that Hurd will go on IR and we must feel really good about this roster, so good that we're looking to move out of the draft as the primary way to acquire talent and will more than likely focus on one area to bolster. I hope it's OL.

Hurd is already on IR
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Well this confirms that Hurd will go on IR and we must feel really good about this roster, so good that we're looking to move out of the draft as the primary way to acquire talent and will more than likely focus on one area to bolster. I hope it's OL.

Hurd is already on IR
Is it confirmed?
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Is it confirmed?

No it's all assumption
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Is it confirmed?

No it's all assumption

Lol
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Well this confirms that Hurd will go on IR and we must feel really good about this roster, so good that we're looking to move out of the draft as the primary way to acquire talent and will more than likely focus on one area to bolster. I hope it's OL.

Hurd is already on IR

He means for the rest of the year.
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Is it confirmed?

No it's all assumption

Surely you can't be serious..
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I wasnt thrilled with the idea of giving up draft picks in a draft where we are already without our 2nd rounder, but Sanders immediately helps this WR corps. Cant be upset at that.

Chances are it also comes with a new contract too. By Goodwin.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Well this confirms that Hurd will go on IR and we must feel really good about this roster, so good that we're looking to move out of the draft as the primary way to acquire talent and will more than likely focus on one area to bolster. I hope it's OL.

Hurd is already on IR

I think he meant this confirms that Hurd will stay on IR for the rest of the season.
TO wants to come back
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I wasnt thrilled with the idea of giving up draft picks in a draft where we are already without our 2nd rounder, but Sanders immediately helps this WR corps. Cant be upset at that.

Chances are it also comes with a new contract too. By Goodwin.

Which I am also good with.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
There's no way Hurd is coming back off of IR just not to dress for game days. They'll cut Matthews and IF they bring someone off IR more than likely bring Taylor back if he's ready. So it's

Sanders
Pettis
Goodwin
Bourne
Samuel
James

IR
Hurd
Taylor

And given how much we pass to backs I just can't see them risking Hurd a this stage, or for that matter even Taylor if he's not 100% ready to go without any setbacks. Still too many and someone will be cut.

I think Taylor will come back, but Hurd won't. They were really high on Taylor, and his injury was one he could come back from.

Guys like Bourne, Pettis, and Taylor will be scrapping to see who will make the 46 man
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