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Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Nobody gets to 10-2 as a fluke. You post that record you are good, the league to too balanced to say otherwise.

Agreed you don't win 10 games by accident in this league and you can't take any team for granted.

We at least control our own destiny and that's all you can ask for. Worst case scenario we end up as the 5th seed and travel to Dallas or Philly.

and both would be good matchups for us if that is what happens
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Nobody gets to 10-2 as a fluke. You post that record you are good, the league to too balanced to say otherwise.

Agreed you don't win 10 games by accident in this league and you can't take any team for granted.

We at least control our own destiny and that's all you can ask for. Worst case scenario we end up as the 5th seed and travel to Dallas or Philly.

and both would be good matchups for us if that is what happens

the only thing i'd be weary of in that situation is over-confidence; the team is still pretty young and could get frustrated just enough as any young team might in a playoff scenario
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Nobody gets to 10-2 as a fluke. You post that record you are good, the league to too balanced to say otherwise.

Except the 49ers. Clearly we suck and can not beat anyone. /sarcasm
Originally posted by judodono:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Nobody gets to 10-2 as a fluke. You post that record you are good, the league to too balanced to say otherwise.

Agreed you don't win 10 games by accident in this league and you can't take any team for granted.

We at least control our own destiny and that's all you can ask for. Worst case scenario we end up as the 5th seed and travel to Dallas or Philly.

and both would be good matchups for us if that is what happens

the only thing i'd be weary of in that situation is over-confidence; the team is still pretty young and could get frustrated just enough as any young team might in a playoff scenario

The following week we'd play @NO, @GB, @Min or at @Sea. Followed by the same thing the next week in the NFCCG. Yuck road games.
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Originally posted by judodono:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Nobody gets to 10-2 as a fluke. You post that record you are good, the league to too balanced to say otherwise.

Agreed you don't win 10 games by accident in this league and you can't take any team for granted.

We at least control our own destiny and that's all you can ask for. Worst case scenario we end up as the 5th seed and travel to Dallas or Philly.

and both would be good matchups for us if that is what happens

the only thing i'd be weary of in that situation is over-confidence; the team is still pretty young and could get frustrated just enough as any young team might in a playoff scenario

If we fail to get a 1 seed, these are just an 'extra' game that we will have where injuries could occur or still have a slight chance to lose.

Then traveling to New Orleans, GB or Seattle the following two games will be difficult.

Obviously reaching the Super Bowl is a difficult task but the degree of difficulty and likelihood of winning the title are greatly diminished as a wild card. Again, this all goes without saying but thought it was worth mentioning.
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Originally posted by judodono:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Nobody gets to 10-2 as a fluke. You post that record you are good, the league to too balanced to say otherwise.

Agreed you don't win 10 games by accident in this league and you can't take any team for granted.

We at least control our own destiny and that's all you can ask for. Worst case scenario we end up as the 5th seed and travel to Dallas or Philly.

and both would be good matchups for us if that is what happens

the only thing i'd be weary of in that situation is over-confidence; the team is still pretty young and could get frustrated just enough as any young team might in a playoff scenario

agree,, i am just saying.. on paper... in my opinion. the way we play with a good defense and run game can be good on the road and at home. but yes,, we have to take what you say seriously
Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Originally posted by judodono:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Nobody gets to 10-2 as a fluke. You post that record you are good, the league to too balanced to say otherwise.

Agreed you don't win 10 games by accident in this league and you can't take any team for granted.

We at least control our own destiny and that's all you can ask for. Worst case scenario we end up as the 5th seed and travel to Dallas or Philly.

and both would be good matchups for us if that is what happens

the only thing i'd be weary of in that situation is over-confidence; the team is still pretty young and could get frustrated just enough as any young team might in a playoff scenario

The following week we'd play @NO, @GB, @Min or at @Sea. Followed by the same thing the next week in the NFCCG. Yuck road games.

I will take Min or NO in a dome, the way we are built I like those odds. GB in winter and the Seattle noise could be trouble just because as people has said, we are young...we have maybe one or two guys on each side of the ball that have "been there"
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Originally posted by judodono:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Nobody gets to 10-2 as a fluke. You post that record you are good, the league to too balanced to say otherwise.

Agreed you don't win 10 games by accident in this league and you can't take any team for granted.

We at least control our own destiny and that's all you can ask for. Worst case scenario we end up as the 5th seed and travel to Dallas or Philly.

and both would be good matchups for us if that is what happens

the only thing i'd be weary of in that situation is over-confidence; the team is still pretty young and could get frustrated just enough as any young team might in a playoff scenario

The following week we'd play @NO, @GB, @Min or at @Sea. Followed by the same thing the next week in the NFCCG. Yuck road games.

I will take Min or NO in a dome, the way we are built I like those odds. GB in winter and the Seattle noise could be trouble just because as people has said, we are young...we have maybe one or two guys on each side of the ball that have "been there"

I thought the Vikes had a chance to win their division. I just looked at their schedule and the Packers'. The Vikings lost to the Bears. LOL, they're screwed. They can neutralize the head-to-head tiebreak with the Pack if they beat them at home, but they've already sabotaged the divisional tiebreak. The Packers would have to lose, not only to the Vikes, but one of the crap teams left on their schedule. Not likely. Pack's gotta be about a 90% favorite to win the division now.
Something occurred to me this morning. A team in the NFL could not win one regular season game and still Host a playoff game. In the highly improbable scenario that every team in a division tied each other in the regular season and lost all of their other games, then a team would host a playoff game with a 0-10-6 record. I get the whole "If you win your division you earn the right to host a playoff game" in theory. However, there will be years (this year?) that a team who finishes with a .500 or worse record gets to host a team that is 12-4 or better. To me at minimum, you should have to finish with a winning record to host a game if the wildcard team in 12-4 or better.

Think about this for a minute: If the Niners and Seattle win their remaining games minus the game at the end of the season, then one team finishes 14-2 and the other 13-3. So it is possible that a 13-3 team travels to Dallas or Philly to face a team that is .500 or worse.
[ Edited by Niners_D on Dec 3, 2019 at 11:27 AM ]
Originally posted by Niners_D:
Something occurred to me this morning. A team in the NFL could not win one regular season game and still Host a playoff game. In the highly improbable scenario that every team in a division tied each other in the regular season and lost all of their other games, then a team would host a playoff game with a 0-10-6 record. I get the whole "If you win your division you earn the right to host a playoff game" in theory. However, there will be years (this year?) that a team who finishes with a .500 or worse record gets to host a team that is 12-4 or better. To me at minimum, you should have to finish with a winning record to host a game if the wildcard team in 12-4 or better.

Think about this for a minute: If the Niners and Seattle win their remaining games minus the game at the end of the season, then one team finishes 14-2 and the other 13-3. So it is possible that a 13-3 team travels to Dallas or Philly to face a team that is .500 or worse.

Yeah.. this needs to change.
Originally posted by Eliphion:
Originally posted by Niners_D:
Something occurred to me this morning. A team in the NFL could not win one regular season game and still Host a playoff game. In the highly improbable scenario that every team in a division tied each other in the regular season and lost all of their other games, then a team would host a playoff game with a 0-10-6 record. I get the whole "If you win your division you earn the right to host a playoff game" in theory. However, there will be years (this year?) that a team who finishes with a .500 or worse record gets to host a team that is 12-4 or better. To me at minimum, you should have to finish with a winning record to host a game if the wildcard team in 12-4 or better.

Think about this for a minute: If the Niners and Seattle win their remaining games minus the game at the end of the season, then one team finishes 14-2 and the other 13-3. So it is possible that a 13-3 team travels to Dallas or Philly to face a team that is .500 or worse.

Yeah.. this needs to change.

It's not going to change, especially not because of some lowly west coast teams. Now if it were the Giants or Eagles that were 13-3 and had to travel to the west coast, perhaps there would be a chance if the outrage was loud enough
[ Edited by Aj_hwd954 on Dec 3, 2019 at 11:39 AM ]
Originally posted by RTFirefly:
I thought the Vikes had a chance to win their division. I just looked at their schedule and the Packers'. The Vikings lost to the Bears. LOL, they're screwed. They can neutralize the head-to-head tiebreak with the Pack if they beat them at home, but they've already sabotaged the divisional tiebreak. The Packers would have to lose, not only to the Vikes, but one of the crap teams left on their schedule. Not likely. Pack's gotta be about a 90% favorite to win the division now.
Packers are 71% favorites to win their division now.
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Originally posted by Eliphion:
Originally posted by Niners_D:
Something occurred to me this morning. A team in the NFL could not win one regular season game and still Host a playoff game. In the highly improbable scenario that every team in a division tied each other in the regular season and lost all of their other games, then a team would host a playoff game with a 0-10-6 record. I get the whole "If you win your division you earn the right to host a playoff game" in theory. However, there will be years (this year?) that a team who finishes with a .500 or worse record gets to host a team that is 12-4 or better. To me at minimum, you should have to finish with a winning record to host a game if the wildcard team in 12-4 or better.

Think about this for a minute: If the Niners and Seattle win their remaining games minus the game at the end of the season, then one team finishes 14-2 and the other 13-3. So it is possible that a 13-3 team travels to Dallas or Philly to face a team that is .500 or worse.

Yeah.. this needs to change.

It's not going to change, especially not because of some lowly west coast teams. Now if it were the Giants or Eagles that were 13-3 and had to travel to the west coast, perhaps there would be a chance if the outrage was loud enough

If that's what it takes then it will happen eventually. The NBA has talked about re-seeding at the end of the year since the West has been so much stronger in recent years, The NFC with more good teams in the NFC. The goal should be to get the best teams in the playoffs. You have to wonder how that would have affected NE if they would have had tougher opponents in the playoffs.
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Originally posted by Eliphion:
Originally posted by Niners_D:
Something occurred to me this morning. A team in the NFL could not win one regular season game and still Host a playoff game. In the highly improbable scenario that every team in a division tied each other in the regular season and lost all of their other games, then a team would host a playoff game with a 0-10-6 record. I get the whole "If you win your division you earn the right to host a playoff game" in theory. However, there will be years (this year?) that a team who finishes with a .500 or worse record gets to host a team that is 12-4 or better. To me at minimum, you should have to finish with a winning record to host a game if the wildcard team in 12-4 or better.

Think about this for a minute: If the Niners and Seattle win their remaining games minus the game at the end of the season, then one team finishes 14-2 and the other 13-3. So it is possible that a 13-3 team travels to Dallas or Philly to face a team that is .500 or worse.

Yeah.. this needs to change.

It's not going to change, especially not because of some lowly west coast teams. Now if it were the Giants or Eagles that were 13-3 and had to travel to the west coast, perhaps there would be a chance if the outrage was loud enough

Yeah it's been this way for as long as I can remember. The year the Cardinals made the super bowl in 08, they were 9-7 and hosting 11-5 Atlanta. Another one off the top of my head, the Marshawn Lynch run against the Saints. Seattle was 7-9 and hosting the 11-5 saints.

How is it that when the Niners get good everyone else does too? Lol
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