Race for the nfc west and the #1 seed

Originally posted by Curlin:

... USE THE PLAYOFF MACHINE....http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

but anyway we NEED TO WIN BOTH games to win the West. anything else is wild card.

No. They have to beat SEA. They can lose to the Rams and still win division if they beat SEA, but it would come down to strength of schedule tie breaker.

SF has a slight lead there now, but there are still enough games by these other teams to change that, too.

Originally posted by captveg:
No. They have to beat SEA. They can lose to the Rams and still win division if they beat SEA, but it would come down to strength of schedule tie breaker.

SF has a slight lead there now, but there are still enough games by these other teams to change that, too.

not if seattle wins next week.

Originally posted by FaTaL:
Imagine playing in Dallas then possibly GB

😩

Maybe a road course wouldn't hurt the team. Just to put it out there the 1987 49ers went 14-2, wrapped up home field, and promptly loss to the Vikings in that first playoff game. Given the volatility of the NFC top seeds right now, nothing is guaranteed.

Originally posted by Curlin:

... USE THE PLAYOFF MACHINE....http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

but anyway we NEED TO WIN BOTH games to win the West. anything else is wild card.

I really like our chances to win out.

Playing for the division in Seattle is a bad prospect, very bad. Seattle is still the soul snatching boogey man for the 49ers.

Originally posted by Curlin:

Originally posted by captveg:

No. They have to beat SEA. They can lose to the Rams and still win division if they beat SEA, but it would come down to strength of schedule tie breaker.

SF has a slight lead there now, but there are still enough games by these other teams to change that, too.

not if seattle wins next week.

No.

If SF loses next week and SEA wins, a SF victory in W17 would leave the teams tied.

The tie breaker would go down until the 5th decided tie breaker - strength of victory.

This would mean that the win % of SF's opponents would come down to SF's opponents of WAS-GB-NO, who are currently 24-17 with 7 games left vs. the win % of SEA's opponents of MIN-PHI-ATL who are currently 22-20 with 6 games left.

Right now SF has the tie breaker in this scenario, but that could flip both after next weekend and/or after W17 is wrapped up.

Except for extreme circumstances (a tie) SF has to beat SEA in W17 to win the division. (A tie vs. SEA that leaves the teams with the same record also goes to the strength of victory tie breaker).

The Rams game only matters in that losing to the Rams pushes the deciding factor to this lower tier breaker, which is still in flux and may be in SEA favor once all the W16 and W17 games are played.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Curlin:
... USE THE PLAYOFF MACHINE....http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

but anyway we NEED TO WIN BOTH games to win the West. anything else is wild card.

No. They have to beat SEA. They can lose to the Rams and still win division if they beat SEA, but it would come down to strength of schedule tie breaker.

SF has a slight lead there now, but there are still enough games by these other teams to change that, too.

Losing to the Rams and beating the Seahawks we can still win the division and get (likely) the #3 seed. No bye week, a visit from the Vikes week 1.

I haven't looked at the Vikes tiebreakers lately. They could figure in this, too. Last I checked, their Strength of Victory was dismal and we (and probably Seattle) would win easily.

Just win the next two. #1 seed has a nice ring to it.

Wrong thread

Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Losing to the Rams and beating the Seahawks we can still win the division and get (likely) the #3 seed. No bye week, a visit from the Vikes week 1.

I haven't looked at the Vikes tiebreakers lately. They could figure in this, too. Last I checked, their Strength of Victory was dismal and we (and probably Seattle) would win easily.

Just win the next two. #1 seed has a nice ring to it.

I wouldn't say we would "likely" get the #3 seed in the above scenario where we lose to the Rams but win the division. Both the Saints and the Packers would have to win out in order for that to happen I think. Agreed let's just win the next two and forget about the permutations though.

Originally posted by Aporia88:
I wouldn't say we would "likely" get the #3 seed in the above scenario where we lose to the Rams but win the division. Both the Saints and the Packers would have to win out in order for that to happen I think. Agreed let's just win the next two and forget about the permutations though.

The permutations are fun for me, a blast in fact. I haven't had the desire to think about them for 6 years. It's been a long time.

So is the 1 seed out of the question now? Or is it possible to regain it by beating the Rams next week then Seattle?

Originally posted by Raul98:
So is the 1 seed out of the question now? Or is it possible to regain it by beating the Rams next week then Seattle?

If we beat the Rams and then Seattle, the 1 seed is not just possible, it is guaranteed.

Originally posted by Raul98:
So is the 1 seed out of the question now? Or is it possible to regain it by beating the Rams next week then Seattle?

We win out, we win the #1 seed. Simple as that. Lose one game, then it's 5th or even the 6th seed.

It depends on what kind of playcalling we get from Shanahan. If its the same as today, we probably won't win the next two games. everyone needs to clean it up.

Originally posted by socalfan21:

It depends on what kind of playcalling we get from Shanahan. If its the same as today, we probably won't win the next two games. everyone needs to clean it up.

No, if Kittle can just hang on to that ball and leans over that first down line, we kill the clock and win. Kittle needs to play better.

Originally posted by Raul98:

So is the 1 seed out of the question now? Or is it possible to regain it by beating the Rams next week then Seattle?

It hasn't changed much. No matter what. We have to beat the Seahawks week 17. Whether we were tied. Up one game or down one game. We need to beat them week 17 to win the division.


Unless they lost to the cards and we beat falcons and rams. But it wasn't likely they'd lose to the cards