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Originally posted by John_Candy:
Projecting

1. 49ers
2. Green Bay
3. New Orleans
4. Philadelphia
5. Seattle
6. Minnesota

Saints beat Vikings
Seahawks beat Eagles

49ers beat Seahawks
Saints beat Packers

49ers beat Saints

49ers beat Patriots

SB MVP: Jimmy Garoppolo

We know this is the biggest, most important game in the post Harbaugh era. The 1 seed goes to the SB like 48% of the time while the 5 seed go's like 3%.

Another interesting note is that by game time the Shehacks will know that, no matter the outcome of the game, they will be playing on wild card weekend.

That's right because if they lose they will be the 5 seed. Even if they beat us, they will be the 3 seed because New Orleans (favored by 13 At Carolina) and Green Bay (favored by 12.5 At Detroit) will have already won their games.

How will this effect the Seachickens mindset?
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by LenCat:
Originally posted by John_Candy:
Projecting

1. 49ers
2. Green Bay
3. New Orleans
4. Philadelphia
5. Seattle
6. Minnesota

Saints beat Vikings
Seahawks beat Eagles

49ers beat Seahawks
Saints beat Packers

49ers beat Saints

49ers beat Patriots

SB MVP: Jimmy Garoppolo

We know this is the biggest, most important game in the post Harbaugh era. The 1 seed goes to the SB like 48% of the time while the 5 seed go's like 3%.

Another interesting note is that by game time the Shehacks will know that, no matter the outcome of the game, they will be playing on wild card weekend.

That's right because if they lose they will be the 5 seed. Even if they beat us, they will be the 3 seed because New Orleans (favored by 13 At Carolina) and Green Bay (favored by 12.5 At Detroit) will have already won their games.

How will this effect the Seachickens mindset?

They are at home. they are angry coming off a loss. they have lynch back. they know they have beat us before. i think their mindset is very good..we need to match that. playing seattle for us is as much mental as anything else
Step one : GB wins at Vikes : check
step 2 : GB wins at Lions
step 3 : 49ers win at hawks
then
WC round : saints win vs vikes and eagles win vs hawks
DP round : 49ers win vs eagles and GB wins vs saints
CG : 49ers win vs GB
SB : 49ers lose to Ravens
Gb wont beat the saints and we wont lose to the mavens.
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Originally posted by LenCat:
Originally posted by John_Candy:
Projecting

1. 49ers
2. Green Bay
3. New Orleans
4. Philadelphia
5. Seattle
6. Minnesota

Saints beat Vikings
Seahawks beat Eagles

49ers beat Seahawks
Saints beat Packers

49ers beat Saints

49ers beat Patriots

SB MVP: Jimmy Garoppolo

We know this is the biggest, most important game in the post Harbaugh era. The 1 seed goes to the SB like 48% of the time while the 5 seed go's like 3%.

Another interesting note is that by game time the Shehacks will know that, no matter the outcome of the game, they will be playing on wild card weekend.

That's right because if they lose they will be the 5 seed. Even if they beat us, they will be the 3 seed because New Orleans (favored by 13 At Carolina) and Green Bay (favored by 12.5 At Detroit) will have already won their games.

How will this effect the Seachickens mindset?

GREAT point. Not just mindset, but willingness to go "all in" for the game. It will only be the difference between a home versus away game for them. Which normally would be something to play for, but this season they've been better on the road than at home.
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
#1 seed if we win. #5 seed if we lose.

If we win:

Packers most likely win next week - they play Detroit. They get second seed. New Orleans would be 3rd. Philly/Dallas 4, seahawks 5, vikings 6.

Most likely scenario 49ers host Seahawks, packers host saints in division round.


If we lose:

Packers get 1 seed, Saints 2, seahawks 3, Philly/Dallas 4 49ers 5 snd Vikings 6.

We would play at Dallas/Philly then at Packers, then at Saints/Seahawks most likely if we keep winning. Not pretty.

I actually like our chances in Philadelphia and even in Green Bay (the biggest question mark here is we haven't seen Shanahan's offense in a cold-weather game yet, but if things go well and we have Dee Ford back then we have a more reasonable shot of a #1 seed upset than most teams in the past have had). I say we SHOULD win both if we want to be worthy of a championship.

It's playing the NFC Championship in the stadium of the Seahawks/Saints winner that would suuuuuuck. I like our chances against both of those teams at Levi's a lot more.
Originally posted by Furlow:
GREAT point. Not just mindset, but willingness to go "all in" for the game. It will only be the difference between a home versus away game for them. Which normally would be something to play for, but this season they've been better on the road than at home.

I've been trying to preach this but most people have thought I'm ridiculous.

If Seattle's stakes are just the #3 seed vs. the #5 seed, they have very little to play for. You could even make the argument (and they most certainly will if they don't win) that being the #5 seed is actually better for them.
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Furlow:
GREAT point. Not just mindset, but willingness to go "all in" for the game. It will only be the difference between a home versus away game for them. Which normally would be something to play for, but this season they've been better on the road than at home.

I've been trying to preach this but most people have thought I'm ridiculous.

If Seattle's stakes are just the #3 seed vs. the #5 seed, they have very little to play for. You could even make the argument (and they most certainly will if they don't win) that being the #5 seed is actually better for them.

Well what would you rather have - a road game versus Dallas or Philly or a home game versus Minnesota? I'm taking the road game versus Dallas or Philly ALL DAY.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Furlow:
GREAT point. Not just mindset, but willingness to go "all in" for the game. It will only be the difference between a home versus away game for them. Which normally would be something to play for, but this season they've been better on the road than at home.

I've been trying to preach this but most people have thought I'm ridiculous.

If Seattle's stakes are just the #3 seed vs. the #5 seed, they have very little to play for. You could even make the argument (and they most certainly will if they don't win) that being the #5 seed is actually better for them.

Well what would you rather have - a road game versus Dallas or Philly or a home game versus Minnesota? I'm taking the road game versus Dallas or Philly ALL DAY.

Especially since Seattle seems to play better on the road.
Originally posted by 49Fever:
Step one : GB wins at Vikes : check
step 2 : GB wins at Lions
step 3 : 49ers win at hawks
then
WC round : saints win vs vikes and eagles win vs hawks
DP round : 49ers win vs eagles and GB wins vs saints
CG : 49ers win vs GB
SB : 49ers lose to Ravens

Everything sounded good till this
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Originally posted by 49Fever:
Step one : GB wins at Vikes : check
step 2 : GB wins at Lions
step 3 : 49ers win at hawks
then
WC round : saints win vs vikes and eagles win vs hawks
DP round : 49ers win vs eagles and GB wins vs saints
CG : 49ers win vs GB
SB : 49ers lose to Ravens


Ravens will not make the super bowl.
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Furlow:
GREAT point. Not just mindset, but willingness to go "all in" for the game. It will only be the difference between a home versus away game for them. Which normally would be something to play for, but this season they've been better on the road than at home.

I've been trying to preach this but most people have thought I'm ridiculous.

If Seattle's stakes are just the #3 seed vs. the #5 seed, they have very little to play for. You could even make the argument (and they most certainly will if they don't win) that being the #5 seed is actually better for them.

Well what would you rather have - a road game versus Dallas or Philly or a home game versus Minnesota? I'm taking the road game versus Dallas or Philly ALL DAY.

Especially since Seattle seems to play better on the road.

It's an interesting point, but I don't think it changes their approach. You play to win the game, regardless of what might happen the following week.
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Saints just brought in Antonio Brown
It's definitely in the niners best interest for GB and NO to both win and/or tie. That would mean that SEA would only be playing for #3 or #5 (home vs MIN or away vs PHI/DAL). Seems like a wash.

That would diminish their motivation for our game. We'd have a psychological advantage there.
[ Edited by NinerBuff on Dec 27, 2019 at 9:54 AM ]
Originally posted by LenCat:
Originally posted by John_Candy:
Projecting

1. 49ers
2. Green Bay
3. New Orleans
4. Philadelphia
5. Seattle
6. Minnesota

Saints beat Vikings
Seahawks beat Eagles

49ers beat Seahawks
Saints beat Packers

49ers beat Saints

49ers beat Patriots

SB MVP: Jimmy Garoppolo

We know this is the biggest, most important game in the post Harbaugh era. The 1 seed goes to the SB like 48% of the time while the 5 seed go's like 3%.

Another interesting note is that by game time the Shehacks will know that, no matter the outcome of the game, they will be playing on wild card weekend.

That's right because if they lose they will be the 5 seed. Even if they beat us, they will be the 3 seed because New Orleans (favored by 13 At Carolina) and Green Bay (favored by 12.5 At Detroit) will have already won their games.

How will this effect the Seachickens mindset?

The reason that 48% of #1 seeds go to the SuperBowl is that they were the best team, hence the #1 seed. To me, this is a gut check. If the 49ers win this game and go in as the 1 seed I will have tons of hope and expectation for a SB appearance. If they fail and we go in as the 5 seed that'd be proof that we aren't quite ready for this stage and a SB unlikely, in my eyes.
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