SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS at ARIZONA CARDINALS - 2019 Game 8

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by thl408:

Finally got to see Murray for a full game and I think he's going to be a problem for years. So elusive and knows how to avoid a hit when running with the ball.

what do you think about Dee Ford spying on him?

Gotta look at the film. Was watching the game with one eye because of Halloween.

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Originally posted by thl408:
Finally got to see Murray for a full game and I think he's going to be a problem for years. So elusive and knows how to avoid a hit when running with the ball.

Yeah he'll be a pain in the ass. I get people being happy that the 49ers got Bosa but I was warning about being overjoyed that Arizona drafted Murray. People were like "Bosa just gonna sack him." Nah, that rare combination of speed and agility is going to suck to have to defend against twice a year for years to come. Once he learns to step up into the pocket more often, he'll be really tough to handle.

Originally posted by thl408:
Finally got to see Murray for a full game and I think he's going to be a problem for years. So elusive and knows how to avoid a hit when running with the ball.

I fully agree. Lamar Jackson plays like an RB so he will have the shelf-life of an RB. Murray will dive or slide to avoid a hit. He will be around a while.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by thl408:
Finally got to see Murray for a full game and I think he's going to be a problem for years. So elusive and knows how to avoid a hit when running with the ball.

what do you think about Dee Ford spying on him?

Gotta look at the film. Was watching the game with one eye because of Halloween.

I was wondering about this. Last night was the first game I could remember that Ford and Bosa kept switching sides. Was it to spy?

Originally posted by thl408:
Let's take another moment to lol at KK for calling a timeout and allowing the 49ers to have another crack at 4th and goal at the end of the half. lol

If the 49ers score a TD on that play and then get stuffed after the TO, he'd look like a transcendent genius. Its just the ups and downs of football, he wanted to see what play the 49ers were going to use and get them off their best play and it ended up biting him in the ass. I thought blowing a timeout on challenging that call late in the 4th was far more egregious and truly boneheaded.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by thl408:

Let's take another moment to lol at KK for calling a timeout and allowing the 49ers to have another crack at 4th and goal at the end of the half. lol

If the 49ers score a TD on that play and then get stuffed after the TO, he'd look like a transcendent genius. Its just the ups and downs of football, he wanted to see what play the 49ers were going to use and get them off their best play and it ended up biting him in the ass. I thought blowing a timeout on challenging that call late in the 4th was far more egregious and truly boneheaded.

Agreed. That challenge was just dumb. The play ended OOB also just dumb

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by thl408:
Finally got to see Murray for a full game and I think he's going to be a problem for years. So elusive and knows how to avoid a hit when running with the ball.

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what do you think about Dee Ford spying on him?

Gotta look at the film. Was watching the game with one eye because of Halloween.

I was wondering about this. Last night was the first game I could remember that Ford and Bosa kept switching sides. Was it to spy?

they were definitely focused on double-teaming bosa, that's for sure. like, REALLY focused. I wonder if that's why he was being moved around

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by thl408:

Let's take another moment to lol at KK for calling a timeout and allowing the 49ers to have another crack at 4th and goal at the end of the half. lol

If the 49ers score a TD on that play and then get stuffed after the TO, he'd look like a transcendent genius. Its just the ups and downs of football, he wanted to see what play the 49ers were going to use and get them off their best play and it ended up biting him in the ass. I thought blowing a timeout on challenging that call late in the 4th was far more egregious and truly boneheaded.

True, it worked out in the 49ers favor which is why we can laugh about it. Same when coaches call timeout to ice a kicker and he ends up making it on the second try.

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Agreed. So happy Kyle Shanahan is the head coach of the 49ers. Wanted his dad to be our head coach 25 years ago and glad we got Kyle now instead.

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by thl408:

Finally got to see Murray for a full game and I think he's going to be a problem for years. So elusive and knows how to avoid a hit when running with the ball.

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what do you think about Dee Ford spying on him?

Gotta look at the film. Was watching the game with one eye because of Halloween.

I was wondering about this. Last night was the first game I could remember that Ford and Bosa kept switching sides. Was it to spy?

I think it had more to do with Arizona moving the pocket to Murray's right to avoid Bosa all together. I only saw it late in the game where we moved Bosa to that side and it was just before the snap.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by thl408:

Finally got to see Murray for a full game and I think he's going to be a problem for years. So elusive and knows how to avoid a hit when running with the ball.

Yeah he'll be a pain in the ass. I get people being happy that the 49ers got Bosa but I was warning about being overjoyed that Arizona drafted Murray. People were like "Bosa just gonna sack him." Nah, that rare combination of speed and agility is going to suck to have to defend against twice a year for years to come. Once he learns to step up into the pocket more often, he'll be really tough to handle.

I didn't think rookie RWilson would be able to sustain his style of play with all the out of structure success and I was wrong. With the way Murray protects himself and ability to throw when on the move he's going to be a thorn in this division. I hope I'm wrong.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by thl408:

Finally got to see Murray for a full game and I think he's going to be a problem for years. So elusive and knows how to avoid a hit when running with the ball.

Yeah he'll be a pain in the ass. I get people being happy that the 49ers got Bosa but I was warning about being overjoyed that Arizona drafted Murray. People were like "Bosa just gonna sack him." Nah, that rare combination of speed and agility is going to suck to have to defend against twice a year for years to come. Once he learns to step up into the pocket more often, he'll be really tough to handle.

I didn't think rookie RWilson would be able to sustain his style of play with all the out of structure success and I was wrong. With the way Murray protects himself and ability to throw when on the move he's going to be a thorn in this division. I hope I'm wrong.

Murray will absolutely be a threat long-term. He's got a lightnight quick release with a rocket arm and essentially 4.3 speed as a runner. He was sacked only 18 times his whole college career, and that scramble ability will be a huge benefit to the Cardinal team with that offense.

Any player who can buy 5+ seconds to throw the ball on almost any given play is an extremely dangerous player. Especially against man coverage where they can take off for easy first downs. Think Colin Kaepernick speed and arm strength with Russell Wilson agility. That's what Murray is. His upside is enormous, and his growth into an NFL player could be something scary to watch.

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I was at the game and I have to say Cards fans are f**king pricks. Unfortunately my pops and I were around mostly Cards fan and they would cuss and talk s**t to the two of us and we were just sitting there enjoying the game. When the hell did they become like Phili fans?

I would have responded in kind no doubt without the cussing. I like some trash talk banter if someone else is going to start it.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Murray will absolutely be a threat long-term. He's got a lightnight quick release with a rocket arm and essentially 4.3 speed as a runner. He was sacked only 18 times his whole college career, and that scramble ability will be a huge benefit to the Cardinal team with that offense.

Any player who can buy 5+ seconds to throw the ball on almost any given play is an extremely dangerous player. Especially against man coverage where they can take off for easy first downs. Think Colin Kaepernick speed and arm strength with Russell Wilson agility. That's what Murray is. His upside is enormous, and his growth into an NFL player could be something scary to watch.

He's been sacked 29 times in the NFL which is all that matters. He's quick but the NFL defenders are fast too. He also goes down fairly easily when he's hit because of his size. Buckner brought him down with one hand.

I don't get all this stuff about the Niners being upset after being 'torched' by Murray. He had one long pass play that was a bad mistake by the defender . At best it should have been a 20 yard completion but it turned into an 88 yard TD. Even with that he only threw for 204 yards. I wouldn't call that torched. He had 35 yards rushing but he never really broke a long one. They need to make huge improvements to the O line for him to have a long career.