The Day After Monday: Furious Fan Reaction

Despite everything negative, if the rookie makes the kick, we are all celebrating this morning. That is what it amounts to in big games.

Teams that win in the playoffs are teams that are healthy. We weren't last night. Put Kwon back in the game to spy on Wilson and he doesn't make that killer scramble in overtime...or some of the others as well. Kittle and Sanders are obvious, so are Staley and McGlinchey. Add in Blair to help rest the other DL and the pass rush and contain is better. On and on it goes... In order to win big games, you must have your big-time players available and healthy.

If we are lucky, Sanders and Kittle will be back next week. If we are lucky, Staley and McGlinchey will not be so rusty (bad) next week. That is what decides games.

Originally posted by Scottie15:
Just want the morons in this forum who claimed we don't need a WR1 to come forward.

They don't need one. What they can't have is every non #1 dropping passes all game long. Need a passable level from all the WR's which didn't happen and they still would've won if the FG goes through.

I wonder how the Saints fan base took their loss? They got crushed by a 1-7 team.

Our guys played their hearts out and lost. The past two years we would have been ecstatic with this performance. Now we're all acting like spoiled kids now.

Everyone has made good points about how or why we lost. But it's not going to change the result of the game. I know, it's frustrating. Ever since we lost our last SB I don't expect perfection anymore.

Stay faithful peeps!

Originally posted by raywm3:
Oh, what about that awful f*ck1ng Spot on 3rd down??!!!! That incorrect spot alone probably cost us the game.

That one was terrible, and I even thought the spot after Tartt caused the fumble was awful. He initially took it from Metcalf, and had control, but DK stripped it again and that ball was loose going into the end zone. I couldn't believe they didn't call it a touchback. Maybe my understanding of the rule is wrong.

Either way, refs sucked for both teams. Before the game, I told my buddy that I thought the Niners would wreck Seattle as long as we didn't kill ourselves, and I don't feel any different than I did before the game.

Niners had ample opportunity to completely blow the doors off that team, but when those opportunities came up the offense sh*t the bed, and Seattle made us pay like they always do. I don't know that I have ever seen Staley get abused like he did last night. McGlinchey may have been worse than that. Drop after drop after drop from the receivers. Even as good as Deebo was most of the game, he had a huge drop late. Just brutal from the entire offense.

So now we have seen two divisional rivals have some success by stacking the box and daring the Niners to throw. You can bet that teams are going to keep using that strategy until the O can make them pay for it consistently. I guess it is better to find this out now than in the playoffs.

Originally posted by Rocket4989:

They almost won the game thou until that janitor missed the fg. Is he still in the building? Dude needs to get fired

Wut? Dude was 3 for 3 before that. Pretty good job. Coaching mistake on the ot kick -- should have set him up from the left hash not the right. He was very comfortable from there. He had to overthink the pull and the predictable happened. Thats on kyle.

Looking ahead we're going to have a really tough time against the Ravens if we don't get the offense rolling. Hopefully Sanders and Kittle will be back by then.

You mean:

The Day After Monday: Furious "8-1 first place in the NFC West & still first place in the NFC & still tied for the best record in the NFL" Fan Reaction?

We were lucky to be in the game. 21 points off of turnovers is hard to overcome. Multiple drops and should be INT's by jimmy.

With that said we still had a chance to win it. Time to move on to cardinals

Originally posted by glorydayz:
You mean:

The Day After Monday: Furious "8-1 first place in the NFC West & still first place in the NFC & still tied for the best record in the NFL" Fan Reaction?

I think people really thought we would go 19-0.

I tried to make your point earlier. Still the best team in the NFC. Still leading the division and still in position for home field throughout the playoffs

Originally posted by 9ers4u:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

You mean:

The Day After Monday: Furious "8-1 first place in the NFC West & still first place in the NFC & still tied for the best record in the NFL" Fan Reaction?

I think people really thought we would go 19-0.

I tried to make your point earlier. Still the best team in the NFC. Still leading the division and still in position for home field throughout the playoffs

Exactly. We still control our own destiny

I think the loss overall is good for us. And it was very important to see schottenheimers game plan which worked so well with misdirect line action sucking in one edge after another.

If we have a real coaching staff we can start developing adjustments and we're fine.

We pretty much stoned seattle. If it wasnt for two stupido garapolo fumbles and ridiculous interception gift from bourne seattle did not do much besides some obligatory wilson scramble miracles.

They nickle and dimed us on the ground and with screen action. If were up three scores like we should have been no one curr.

Overall i think the only meaningful takesway from this game is that garapolo remains a weak read and our receiving corps is pretty much trash.

Hope sanders is only out a couple of weeks. Same with kittle.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Furious Fan Reaction: "WTF DID I JUST WATCH?"

Last night made me absolutely sick. It made many of you sick. And as of this morning, I'm still utterly disgusted that we have a "1" in the "L column" now, and for many, many reasons. What we saw last night was a godforsaken atrocity. Not all of it was bad, but the bad we had? It was REALLY BAD. I mean REALLY, REALLY BAD. Last night was a kick in the nuts and punch in the stomach to fans, and I still can't help but ask "WTF?" over and over and over -- which is precisely what I found myself screaming towards the TV all last night watching piss-poor play after piss-poor play by so many players. Let's get into that now.

1. Receivers
Do they even deserve that title anymore? Dre Greenlaw had better hands than anyone lining up at WR last night. Samuel was productive, but even he bobbled several of his catches and dropped CRITICAL passes that would've given the team huge first down conversions. Every WR who touched the ball last night had one or more drops. It was absolutely ridiculous -- completely unacceptable. I sincerely hope to God that a) Sanders and Kittle aren't out long, and b) Hurd can return soon and make an impact. We had around 10 drops last night, and virtually all were of the absolutely inexcusable variety. One of them turned into a huge interception that led to points for Seattle, and nearly all the others blew golden opportunities for first downs. Speaking of opportunities...

2. Coaching
Credit to Saleh, honestly. He had his guys ready. They made a ton of plays last night. Shanahan and the offense though? If Staley and McGlinchey were getting manhandled by everyone they faced last night like this, does ANYone in their right mind believe they were holding up well in practice against our guys? Neither looked anywhere near ready to be on the field. The HC must do what's best for the team. At minimum, they should've given them help and eased them back in. Instead, they were left floundering all night while Jimmy got absolutely blasted repeatedly, eventually becoming so shell-shocked to the point of looking as erratic as he's ever been since coming here. Shanahan's baffling decision to not kick a field goal on a long 4th and 2 from the 32 yard line (with a kicker possessing a range of 55+) made absolutely zero sense. Nor did the downright repulsive decision to kneel down with roughly 30 seconds and a timeout left at halftime from the 25 yard line. Just an absolutely sickening lack of killer instinct and appalling distrust in your team. The last horrendous decision was to not call a single high percentage pass or running play late in OT to burn the clock. At minimum, Shanahan could've prevented a loss by making it an "either we win, or no one wins" situation. Furthermore, I did not see a single creative play design all night, and against a division rival, summing up all of the above to me screams out that this was no doubt an absolutely horrific performance by KS, and he is every bit responsible for the loss as some of the players.

3. Jimmy G
I give Jimmy credit for taking advantage of second and third chances to at least tie the game. But he has got to know when the play is over. That fumble returned for a TD was just one of a long line of reasons we lost this game. There's a time to try to make a play, and that wasn't it. Even though he got the game tied and also into position for the game-winner, Jimmy had his fair share of awful, awful moments. He was wildly inconsistent with his accuracy. He stared down receivers. He hesitated. He fumbled twice on plays he should've just protected the ball and lived to play another down. That was not championship caliber QB play. That was about as up and down of a game as it gets. For every two good plays, Jimmy had three bad ones. That's not going to cut it. It's definitely not all on him, but plain and simple, he HAS to be better than this for us to make any kind of a run.

4. Injuries:
We finally had a game where injuries impacted the W-L outcome. Does Gould make that kick? I don't know, but I'm a lot more comfortable with him doing it than a rookie UDFA. Dwelley, Celek, and Toilolo are easy covers for the speedy linebackers Seattle has, and definitely not going to get open against safeties. Apparently no one at WR can catch except Sanders and it's obvious why Jimmy trusts him more than anyone else on the roster. With DJ Jones, Blair, and even Thomas going down at one point, both our run defense and pass rush suffered mightily. We didn't have the rotational pieces to keep guys as fresh, and that became a massive disadvantage. Blair's injury didn't look good. Will Street become one of the activated players if Blair is out long term? We haven't even opened his practice window, so that has me wondering. I credit the guys who were in there still for playing their a** off, but we badly need our key guys to get healthy for at least the last quarter of the season and going into the playoffs.

Summary: DESPITE all of the above, this is a game we should've won and won in regulation. It never should've even come down to the shanked kick or the blown contain on RW at the end. The most infuriating part of this loss is that we didn't get beat by any spectacular plays by Seattle outside from a few typical RW moments that you always see from him. We mercilessly beat ourselves with game-changing mistakes on offense and terrible coaching decisions/mismanagement of the game. We couldn't get out of our own way to save our life, utterly embarrassed ourselves on national TV, and now all we can do is hope that we can recover from a gut-wrenching, emotionally draining loss and become better from it. We need every win we can get. This team needs to come out angry and determined to win next Sunday or serious doubts will start to set in, and that's a very dangerous thing, no matter who you are in the NFL.

It was a tough loss against a team that has owned us for most of the last decade. The team came into the game without their best player, George Kittle, and lost their best WR in the second quarter and didn't have the services of their kicker who has been one of the best in the game over the last few years, though he has been a little shaky this year. The defense played really tough but obviously the offense struggled, but a lot of those issues were caused by a Seattle defense that clearly came ready to play regardless of what their statistical standing might have been.

The Niners were never going to go undefeated and it has been noted by many that if they win their division this year they really will have earned it. Nothing about that scenario has changed. This loss sucks because it came within both the conference and the division and now they are on a short week against another division team that has given them fits the last few years. I think the real test of the team will be in how they come back against the Cards and how guys like Samuel and Bourne respond, especially if Sanders is unable to go. I like Samuel because he has a lot of fight in him as a receiver but I have to admit I don't have a lot of confidence in him at the moment. He needs to make the catches that are there to be made and hold onto the ball when he is running with it. The same with Bourne. For every tough catch he makes he'll drop a gimme. I tend to never look back at drafts or worry about who we might have taken over who we did but it certainly looks like Metcalf might have been the better choice this year.

For those of you who have been ragging on Trent Taylor over in his thread perhaps you should take a moment to reflect on how nice it would have been to have a guy out there last night who has demonstrated the ability to be a money player on third down and a pretty reliable receiver in general with the short area quickness to beat coverage on plays where you only need a few yards, especially if you're running game isn't working and the opposing team's pass rush is getting home in a hurry.

Hopefully by the time the Packers game comes around Kittle and Sanders will be good to go again. It will need to be all hands on deck for that stretch of games especially Baltimore, who has been another tough opponent for us for the past several years. If the team is healthy I can see them beating the Packers, and the Rams. The Saints game I would rate as a toss up simply because you can never count Brees out and their defense has been playing pretty well. Like I said, it really sucks that we lost but hopefully that will be a good motivator for the rest of the year from the coaches down to the players, and perhaps it will set up a showdown in Seattle for the division title and a bye, which would give the team an opportunity to take it to Seattle in their own house, and wouldn't that be sweet. Go Niners!!

Originally posted by socal1632:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
We're 8-1 and crying like someone snatched our candies and toys from us. C'mon MAN!!!!

Humble pie is good at this point.

Also don't forget, it could always be worse, the Saints just lost at home to a 1 win rival team.

Humble pie is good but seeing the drop off after Sanders went down is scary

Kittle is the antidote. We went 6-0 without Sanders so I'm not that worried. Kyle just has to re-adjust the scheme.

I think Deebo is the key to the lock, if he can elevate his game even more, we'll be ok!

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

You put everything I was thinking in to words. I still am shell shocked. That was about as horrible as you can get for a Niner fan. And that's saying a lot for how long we've sucked. Either this sinks them or makes them stronger. I can't even think straight to have a guess on which it's going to be.

Nothing close to that, but it wasnt great either.

Worse than Tomsula, Erickson, and Kelly? Hardly. Lol

There was also the non-call VERY obvious false start that Carson committed right before he ran it in for the touchdown.

Not like it mattered.

We beat ourselves.