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⛏ SF 49ERS vs GB PACKERS 🧀🦓 Pregame Thread - 2019 Season Week 12

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⛏ SF 49ERS vs GB PACKERS 🧀🦓 Pregame Thread - 2019 Season Week 12

Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:
Running game has to produce , as good as jimmy is he is not Drew Brees, Ben, Rivers or Rodgers. He cant throw it 40 to 50 times a game and expect this team to win. They absolutely have to take some of the pressure off Jimmy. Big primetime game ,

He just did.

But I know what you mean and agree...

I think Jimmy will throw it in the neighborhood of 35 times. We'll probably be able to run for 100+ at least. OL will have to be better than the last couple weeks. I hope Shanahan will utilize designed rollouts and naked bootlegs a couple times to give Jimmy some extra time.
[ Edited by PuckFarag10 on Nov 22, 2019 at 9:58 AM ]
  • Jaci
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Originally posted by pizzle:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Imagine if both the Seahawks and Saints lose in the morning. This game would become even bigger than it already is

Seattle at Philly seems feasible, but Carolina at New Orleans... not so much. But if that were to happen, then awesome!

It might be worse if they both win.

If Seattle and saints win and we lose we go from the #1 seed to the #5 seed which is crazy. Gonna be a brutal fight to hang on to this first round bye

Right. If all three games go against us, it would be bad. According to NFL's game prediction models:

49ers have a 52% chance of winning
Seahawks have a 55% chance of winning
Saints have a 74% chance of winning

So if we take these projections and map them to each possible outcome:

49ers win, Seahawks win, Saints win: 21.2% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (1 game up)
49ers win, Seahawks win, Saints lose: 7.4% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (1 game up, but both GB and NO lost, so now most important game is @ SEA)
49ers win, Seahawks lose, Saints win: 17.3% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (strengthen NFCW bid)
49ers win, Seahawks lose, Saints lose: 6.1% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (2+ game lead on all challengers)
49ers lose, Seahawks win, Saints win: 19.5% - 49ers drop to 5th in NFC (lost tiebreaker vs. Seattle and GB, behind NO)
49ers lose, Seahawks win, Saints lose: 6.9% - 49ers drop to 5th in NFC (lost tiebreaker vs. Seattle and GB)
49ers lose, Seahawks lose, Saints win: 16.0% - 49ers drop to 3rd in NFC (lost tiebreaker with GB, behind NO)
49ers lose, Seahawks lose, Saints lose: 5.6% - 49ers drop to 2nd in NFC (lost tiebreaker with GB)

sadly with the injuries i dont think we have a 52% chance.

Than why even watch the rest of the season? Its football dude, injuries aren't new. The difference is this year we actually have the depth (and shown it since week 1) to still be competitive.
Originally posted by Jaci:
Originally posted by pizzle:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Imagine if both the Seahawks and Saints lose in the morning. This game would become even bigger than it already is

Seattle at Philly seems feasible, but Carolina at New Orleans... not so much. But if that were to happen, then awesome!

It might be worse if they both win.

If Seattle and saints win and we lose we go from the #1 seed to the #5 seed which is crazy. Gonna be a brutal fight to hang on to this first round bye

Right. If all three games go against us, it would be bad. According to NFL's game prediction models:

49ers have a 52% chance of winning
Seahawks have a 55% chance of winning
Saints have a 74% chance of winning

So if we take these projections and map them to each possible outcome:

49ers win, Seahawks win, Saints win: 21.2% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (1 game up)
49ers win, Seahawks win, Saints lose: 7.4% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (1 game up, but both GB and NO lost, so now most important game is @ SEA)
49ers win, Seahawks lose, Saints win: 17.3% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (strengthen NFCW bid)
49ers win, Seahawks lose, Saints lose: 6.1% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (2+ game lead on all challengers)
49ers lose, Seahawks win, Saints win: 19.5% - 49ers drop to 5th in NFC (lost tiebreaker vs. Seattle and GB, behind NO)
49ers lose, Seahawks win, Saints lose: 6.9% - 49ers drop to 5th in NFC (lost tiebreaker vs. Seattle and GB)
49ers lose, Seahawks lose, Saints win: 16.0% - 49ers drop to 3rd in NFC (lost tiebreaker with GB, behind NO)
49ers lose, Seahawks lose, Saints lose: 5.6% - 49ers drop to 2nd in NFC (lost tiebreaker with GB)

sadly with the injuries i dont think we have a 52% chance.

Than why even watch the rest of the season? Its football dude, injuries aren't new. The difference is this year we actually have the depth (and shown it since week 1) to still be competitive.

If Kittle, Deebo, and Sanders all play, I think we have a great shot. They come in rested and having better health comparatively, but we have home field and a better defense.
Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:
Running game has to produce , as good as jimmy is he is not Drew Brees, Ben, Rivers or Rodgers. He cant throw it 40 to 50 times a game and expect this team to win. They absolutely have to take some of the pressure off Jimmy. Big primetime game ,

40 to 50 times??? Anyone who throws this many times is most likely playing from behind and is bound to lose.

Are you just saying Jimmy G cant carry this team with his arm even though he has already many times including 3-4 games already this year?
Originally posted by 49erminion:
40 to 50 times??? Anyone who throws this many times is most likely playing from behind and is bound to lose.

Are you just saying Jimmy G cant carry this team with his arm even though he has already many times including 3-4 games already this year?

Do that against teams like seattle or packers and you are going to lose. I haven't really seen him carry a game perse outside of last week. He has had the running game for the most part. Not saying he isnt great but Jimmy throwing 40 times a guy will lose to good teams.
Originally posted by 49erminion:
Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:
Running game has to produce , as good as jimmy is he is not Drew Brees, Ben, Rivers or Rodgers. He cant throw it 40 to 50 times a game and expect this team to win. They absolutely have to take some of the pressure off Jimmy. Big primetime game ,

40 to 50 times??? Anyone who throws this many times is most likely playing from behind and is bound to lose.

Are you just saying Jimmy G cant carry this team with his arm even though he has already many times including 3-4 games already this year?

I would take Jimmy over the Ben and Rivers of the last 2-3 years every day of the week and twice on sunday.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Jaci:
Originally posted by pizzle:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Imagine if both the Seahawks and Saints lose in the morning. This game would become even bigger than it already is

Seattle at Philly seems feasible, but Carolina at New Orleans... not so much. But if that were to happen, then awesome!

It might be worse if they both win.

If Seattle and saints win and we lose we go from the #1 seed to the #5 seed which is crazy. Gonna be a brutal fight to hang on to this first round bye

Right. If all three games go against us, it would be bad. According to NFL's game prediction models:

49ers have a 52% chance of winning
Seahawks have a 55% chance of winning
Saints have a 74% chance of winning

So if we take these projections and map them to each possible outcome:

49ers win, Seahawks win, Saints win: 21.2% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (1 game up)
49ers win, Seahawks win, Saints lose: 7.4% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (1 game up, but both GB and NO lost, so now most important game is @ SEA)
49ers win, Seahawks lose, Saints win: 17.3% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (strengthen NFCW bid)
49ers win, Seahawks lose, Saints lose: 6.1% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (2+ game lead on all challengers)
49ers lose, Seahawks win, Saints win: 19.5% - 49ers drop to 5th in NFC (lost tiebreaker vs. Seattle and GB, behind NO)
49ers lose, Seahawks win, Saints lose: 6.9% - 49ers drop to 5th in NFC (lost tiebreaker vs. Seattle and GB)
49ers lose, Seahawks lose, Saints win: 16.0% - 49ers drop to 3rd in NFC (lost tiebreaker with GB, behind NO)
49ers lose, Seahawks lose, Saints lose: 5.6% - 49ers drop to 2nd in NFC (lost tiebreaker with GB)

sadly with the injuries i dont think we have a 52% chance.

Than why even watch the rest of the season? Its football dude, injuries aren't new. The difference is this year we actually have the depth (and shown it since week 1) to still be competitive.

If Kittle, Deebo, and Sanders all play, I think we have a great shot. They come in rested and having better health comparatively, but we have home field and a better defense.

If they play i can comfortably say we win by at least 2 TDs. Was rewatching last years matchup against the pack with bethard. Pack barely won by a late 4th qrter FG, but rodgers was moving the ball. I think with sherm more healthier despite his last game, spoon, the rest of our secondary and improved Dline, rodgers will have more trouble pushing the ball downfield. Rodgers might have to use his legs more than he'd like to while facing our defense. And were playing at our house not the frozen tundra.
Really could use a resurgence from the running game. It's been very noticeably absent. Jimmy has done his best to compensate, but we need it back to full operation!
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Really could use a resurgence from the running game. It's been very noticeably absent. Jimmy has done his best to compensate, but we need it back to full operation!

With packs less than stellar run defense, we might see a balanced attack on sunday night.
Originally posted by Team49ers:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Jaci:
Originally posted by pizzle:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Imagine if both the Seahawks and Saints lose in the morning. This game would become even bigger than it already is

Seattle at Philly seems feasible, but Carolina at New Orleans... not so much. But if that were to happen, then awesome!

It might be worse if they both win.

If Seattle and saints win and we lose we go from the #1 seed to the #5 seed which is crazy. Gonna be a brutal fight to hang on to this first round bye

Right. If all three games go against us, it would be bad. According to NFL's game prediction models:

49ers have a 52% chance of winning
Seahawks have a 55% chance of winning
Saints have a 74% chance of winning

So if we take these projections and map them to each possible outcome:

49ers win, Seahawks win, Saints win: 21.2% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (1 game up)
49ers win, Seahawks win, Saints lose: 7.4% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (1 game up, but both GB and NO lost, so now most important game is @ SEA)
49ers win, Seahawks lose, Saints win: 17.3% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (strengthen NFCW bid)
49ers win, Seahawks lose, Saints lose: 6.1% - 49ers remain 1st in NFC (2+ game lead on all challengers)
49ers lose, Seahawks win, Saints win: 19.5% - 49ers drop to 5th in NFC (lost tiebreaker vs. Seattle and GB, behind NO)
49ers lose, Seahawks win, Saints lose: 6.9% - 49ers drop to 5th in NFC (lost tiebreaker vs. Seattle and GB)
49ers lose, Seahawks lose, Saints win: 16.0% - 49ers drop to 3rd in NFC (lost tiebreaker with GB, behind NO)
49ers lose, Seahawks lose, Saints lose: 5.6% - 49ers drop to 2nd in NFC (lost tiebreaker with GB)

sadly with the injuries i dont think we have a 52% chance.

Than why even watch the rest of the season? Its football dude, injuries aren't new. The difference is this year we actually have the depth (and shown it since week 1) to still be competitive.

If Kittle, Deebo, and Sanders all play, I think we have a great shot. They come in rested and having better health comparatively, but we have home field and a better defense.

If they play i can comfortably say we win by at least 2 TDs. Was rewatching last years matchup against the pack with bethard. Pack barely won by a late 4th qrter FG, but rodgers was moving the ball. I think with sherm more healthier despite his last game, spoon, the rest of our secondary and improved Dline, rodgers will have more trouble pushing the ball downfield. Rodgers might have to use his legs more than he'd like to while facing our defense. And were playing at our house not the frozen tundra.

The Packers are really interesting this year, when they are good they are reaaaalllly good and when they are bad they are horrible. The good has been there a lot more often than the bad and the record reflects that, but they have also put up some real clunkers and escaped with their lives a couple times besides.
Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:
Originally posted by 49erminion:
40 to 50 times??? Anyone who throws this many times is most likely playing from behind and is bound to lose.

Are you just saying Jimmy G cant carry this team with his arm even though he has already many times including 3-4 games already this year?

Do that against teams like seattle or packers and you are going to lose. I haven't really seen him carry a game perse outside of last week. He has had the running game for the most part. Not saying he isnt great but Jimmy throwing 40 times a guy will lose to good teams.

Jimmy will probably have around 35 attempts or so in this game. Really it depends on what the Packers defense is going to do, and how well our OL performs. If the run isn't working, expect Shanahan to go with quick hitters and screens as an extension of the run game.
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Really could use a resurgence from the running game. It's been very noticeably absent. Jimmy has done his best to compensate, but we need it back to full operation!

Yep, we need to get the running game going again and take some of the pressure off of Jimmy.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Nov 22, 2019 at 10:42 AM ]
Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Hopefully history will repeat itself. 1984 49ers lost only one game by 3 points, then went on to win the SB.

I thought about that after the Seattle game. I'd love to see it work out that way.
Originally posted by Team49ers:
With packs less than stellar run defense, we might see a balanced attack on sunday night.

Hopefully it won't be like the Seattle's less than stellar pass rush situation

But I think having Kittle and Juice back on the field at the same time with Sanders and Deebo at WR(hopefully both are good enough to play) it will prevent the Packers from stacking the box and opening things up.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Team49ers:
With packs less than stellar run defense, we might see a balanced attack on sunday night.

Hopefully it won't be like the Seattle's less than stellar pass rush situation

But I think having Kittle and Juice back on the field at the same time with Sanders and Deebo at WR(hopefully both are good enough to play) it will prevent the Packers from stacking the box and opening things up.

If the pack sellout to stop the run, jimmy is more than capable of airing it out. Pack are 17th in sack total, they dont have a clowney neither do they have a clay anymore.
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