SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs BALTIMORE RAVENS - Week 13 PREGAME

This is going to be the most entertaining game of the season. I can't wait for the 49ers to go out and compete and show every doubter in this forum that we are up there with the best. I don't even care of we win. Of we lose by <10 or win than I feel a few folks have a ahit ton of crow to eat come Monday morning. Of course they'll back track and say I'm glad I was wrong. This game will not be a blowout. And with the way the Ravens players are acting I wouldn't be surprised to see the 49ers come in their house and eat their lunch.

Rain won't be that bad. Here in DC the rain is supposed to stop before the game even starts. Might be a few shhowers during the game. Nothing major

Originally posted by jvangeystel:
This is going to be the most entertaining game of the season. I can't wait for the 49ers to go out and compete and show every doubter in this forum that we are up there with the best. I don't even care of we win. Of we lose by <10 or win than I feel a few folks have a ahit ton of crow to eat come Monday morning. Of course they'll back track and say I'm glad I was wrong. This game will not be a blowout. And with the way the Ravens players are acting I wouldn't be surprised to see the 49ers come in their house and eat their lunch.

Sound like you looking for a moral Vitoria bro. Makes no difference if we lose by 25 or 4. It's an L. f**k that we getting a W

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by jvangeystel:
This is going to be the most entertaining game of the season. I can't wait for the 49ers to go out and compete and show every doubter in this forum that we are up there with the best. I don't even care of we win. Of we lose by <10 or win than I feel a few folks have a ahit ton of crow to eat come Monday morning. Of course they'll back track and say I'm glad I was wrong. This game will not be a blowout. And with the way the Ravens players are acting I wouldn't be surprised to see the 49ers come in their house and eat their lunch.

Sound like you looking for a moral Vitoria bro. Makes no difference if we lose by 25 or 4. It's an L. f**k that we getting a W

if we lose. i do not want to hear moral victory

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

if it's a rainfest, this will favor the ravens. They are at home, they run the ball better, and can stop the run better.

Kyle says the rain slows everybody down. He usually doesn't like it as our team is built on speed, but for this game only, he wants it to slow down Jackson.

Yep. Rain= He can't run as fast. Game slowed down. Absolutely not advantage Ravens.

A wet field should normally favor the offense since they know which way they are going and the D can't respond to the cuts as quickly. That would tend to favor Jackson on his running plays but might help our passing game.

Originally posted by SFTifoso:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I swear I thought we won both games against Arizona. What am I missing?

What you are missing on is the 9ers were in fact still trailing behind with only 39 secs left on the clock. And we are talking about a team that is last in NFC West with a losing record. And now, we have to deal with a 9-2 Ravens team with an even more dynamic mobile QB who has blown out multiple teams including quality opponents.

What you really are saying is that we got *no chance* at winning this game. That's just as idiotic as saying we got a 100% chance to win. Sorry, I ain't buying what you are selling.

And you are saying? We will win this game? Where is the disconnect here? And what is your prediction for the season? Unless you are saying we are going 15-1, then enlighten us and let us know where your losses will be coming from then?

They got blown out by the browns and we blew out the browns. The disconnect is that you don't know division games are different than any other games on your schedule. Their players don't know our player and vice versa, which means more chances of random things happening.

This game 50/50 at best for the ravens. We clearly have more talent, a better scheme on offense and defense, and they're a one trick pony. The pats did figure them out towards the end of that game, but that fumble by Edelman killed them. The ravens are not some monster, and on god Greg Roman is the last thing from a genius lol. We might have 6 rings right now if he was just a little bit smarter.

SFT gets it!

Originally posted by 414Jaydee:
Greetings. Lifetime Baltimore season tix holder here, going back to the Johnny U. Days of the Colts.
I have enjoyed reading this board this week. Some pretty astute commentary mixed in with the usual "Doh" b/s seen on every fan board.

Here's my condensed talking points:
1) The 9ers are a damn good team. The O, while not what one would call "explosive", is more than competent to compliment the strength of the 9ers which is the D.
2) The Wide9 tech that the 49ers often use is a double edged sword. Like most all schemes, there are strengths & weaknesses to it. The speed of Bosa & Ford may be a problem for RT O. Brown. However, the off tackle gaps created by the alignment leave room for Ingram/Edwards to run. Relying on the LB's to shut that down means the LB must beat blocks by the Ravens TE trio FB Ricard. Maybe; maybe not successful.
3) Every week the opponents board sounds the same regarding shutting down LJ & the Ravens O. I ASSURE you that the 9ers do NOT have an LB or a DB who is quick/fast enough to routinely "spy" or shut down Jackson.
4) Kittle presents the most problematic for the Ravens D. The LB's are not great in coverage. The Ravens D is running with 50% different personnel than what started the season and was playing during the KC & CLE 1.0 games where the Ravens got gashed. The Ravens tend to s**t the bed at least once per year against inferior opponents, hope it was the CLE game.
5) No one of football intelligence is dismissing this game as an easy "W" for BAL or SF. Most recognize the quality of both teams The few lunkheads on the Ravens board exist on all boards; yours included.
6) Expect a good game, hopefully no serious injuries on either side. Good luck the rest of the way.

Welcome Jaydee.

1. That is true at this point in the season. I think the O would be a little more explosive if we hadn't been hit with so many injuries. At one point we lost 2 starting tackles, a starting MLB, Kittle, and our FB. The Kittle and Juice make this O go. In what other offense do you see a FB get a 35 yd touchdown reception? If this O is healthy, to include Kittle, Juice, Sanders, and Breida--watch out.
2. I agree. Like with any scheme, there are strengths and weaknesses. In today's NFL the routinely good offenses (NE, NO, GB, LAR) are 11 personnel, spread'em out types. The Wide9, with fast LB's, is built for this. It is also built to get sacks and picks while the opposing O tries to play catch up. If the 49ers open up with 10-14 pt leads, it plays right into this D's hands. Having said that, I think our middle is soft.
3. Maybe we don't have to shut down LJ, but we can get into his head, take away his middle reads, and hit him, with extreme violence, at every legal opportunity. A spy may or may not work, but the 49ers have the speed to contain and force problems. The 49ers have had problems with mobile guys this year, so their ability to adjust the scheme to account for this is paramount. They've had ARI twice and SEA once to help prep and they weren't great. Its amazing how play-calling and the Keep reads change after a few soul-crushing hits. LJ is a throwing RB and will be treated as such.
4. I get your point here, and perhaps the BAL's D wouldn't be different if it wasn't for injuries (see my #1). Injuries can transform a team, simple as that. Having said that, now is the absolute worst time for BAL to have issues with covering TEs. Now an emphasis will have to be placed on Kittle, and Shanny the Younger WILL BE ready for that, book it. He'll poke and prod for 2 quarters until the jugular is found.
5. I could not agree more. The only two teams that can give the 49ers trouble is BAL and SEA.
6. This could be the game of the year and a possible Super Bowl preview. I wouldn't want either team's fans to cite injuries as excuses, so hopefully, we have a great, injury-free game.

Check out the "week 13 Coaches film pre-game thread" by jonnydel.

Originally posted by 414Jaydee:

Greetings. Lifetime Baltimore season tix holder here, going back to the Johnny U. Days of the Colts.
I have enjoyed reading this board this week. Some pretty astute commentary mixed in with the usual "Doh" b/s seen on every fan board.

Here's my condensed talking points:
1) The 9ers are a damn good team. The O, while not what one would call "explosive", is more than competent to compliment the strength of the 9ers which is the D.
2) The Wide9 tech that the 49ers often use is a double edged sword. Like most all schemes, there are strengths & weaknesses to it. The speed of Bosa & Ford may be a problem for RT O. Brown. However, the off tackle gaps created by the alignment leave room for Ingram/Edwards to run. Relying on the LB's to shut that down means the LB must beat blocks by the Ravens TE trio + FB Ricard. Maybe; maybe not successful.
3) Every week the opponents board sounds the same regarding shutting down LJ & the Ravens O. I ASSURE you that the 9ers do NOT have an LB or a DB who is quick/fast enough to routinely "spy" or shut down Jackson.
4) Kittle presents the most problematic for the Ravens D. The LB's are not great in coverage. The Ravens D is running with 50% different personnel than what started the season and was playing during the KC & CLE 1.0 games where the Ravens got gashed. The Ravens tend to s**t the bed at least once per year against inferior opponents, hope it was the CLE game.
5) No one of football intelligence is dismissing this game as an easy "W" for BAL or SF. Most recognize the quality of both teams The few lunkheads on the Ravens board exist on all boards; yours included.
6) Expect a good game, hopefully no serious injuries on either side. Good luck the rest of the way.

Nothing personal toward you and your brethren fans back there but we hate the Ravens, most of us hate Harbaugh, and most of us hate Greg Roman. He's like Grima Wormtongue, gone off to coddle Sauruman in the Tower.
He and his filthy tricks must be defeated, through the virtue of lightness.
You sir, are an Orc.
Happy Black Friday. Our Light will shine on Sunday.
You shall come to know this.

Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Nothing personal toward you and your brethren fans back there but we hate the Ravens, most of us hate Harbaugh, and most of us hate Greg Roman. He's like Grima Wormtongue, gone off to coddle Sauruman in the Tower.
He and his filthy tricks must be defeated, through the virtue of lightness.
You sir, are an Orc.
Happy Black Friday. Our Light will shine on Sunday.
You shall come to know this.

nice. sheesh. i do not hate john. when it was running around the coffee shops a while ago he would be fired. i would have hired him in a second to coach my team if i owned one. i am not a fan of roman but in the super bowl. the head coach could have over ruled him on the dumb play calls. you have a solid football team. a under rated defense and of course a very dangerous qb who can make plays and create things for other teams. a 3 point game either way in my opinion

Reminding me of the Saints vs Niners game - Unstoppable Force vs the Immovable Object. Niners won that one.

Originally posted by 5Jan2003:

Originally posted by 414Jaydee:
Greetings. Lifetime Baltimore season tix holder here, going back to the Johnny U. Days of the Colts.
I have enjoyed reading this board this week. Some pretty astute commentary mixed in with the usual "Doh" b/s seen on every fan board.

Here's my condensed talking points:
1) The 9ers are a damn good team. The O, while not what one would call "explosive", is more than competent to compliment the strength of the 9ers which is the D.
2) The Wide9 tech that the 49ers often use is a double edged sword. Like most all schemes, there are strengths & weaknesses to it. The speed of Bosa & Ford may be a problem for RT O. Brown. However, the off tackle gaps created by the alignment leave room for Ingram/Edwards to run. Relying on the LB's to shut that down means the LB must beat blocks by the Ravens TE trio + FB Ricard. Maybe; maybe not successful.
3) Every week the opponents board sounds the same regarding shutting down LJ & the Ravens O. I ASSURE you that the 9ers do NOT have an LB or a DB who is quick/fast enough to routinely "spy" or shut down Jackson.
4) Kittle presents the most problematic for the Ravens D. The LB's are not great in coverage. The Ravens D is running with 50% different personnel than what started the season and was playing during the KC & CLE 1.0 games where the Ravens got gashed. The Ravens tend to s**t the bed at least once per year against inferior opponents, hope it was the CLE game.
5) No one of football intelligence is dismissing this game as an easy "W" for BAL or SF. Most recognize the quality of both teams The few lunkheads on the Ravens board exist on all boards; yours included.
6) Expect a good game, hopefully no serious injuries on either side. Good luck the rest of the way.

Nothing personal toward you and your brethren fans back there but we hate the Ravens, most of us hate Harbaugh, and most of us hate Greg Roman. He's like Grima Wormtongue, gone off to coddle Sauruman in the Tower.
He and his filthy tricks must be defeated, through the virtue of lightness.
You sir, are an Orc.
Happy Black Friday. Our Light will shine on Sunday.
You shall come to know this.

Totally agree. I hate that team with a vengeance. They ruined our perfect super bowl win record.

Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Reminding me of the Saints vs Niners game - Unstoppable Force vs the Immovable Object. Niners won that one.

Agree, another example of great defense beating great offense. The other one was the '84 super bowl game.

Originally posted by 414Jaydee:
Greetings. Lifetime Baltimore season tix holder here, going back to the Johnny U. Days of the Colts.
I have enjoyed reading this board this week. Some pretty astute commentary mixed in with the usual "Doh" b/s seen on every fan board.

Here's my condensed talking points:
1) The 9ers are a damn good team. The O, while not what one would call "explosive", is more than competent to compliment the strength of the 9ers which is the D.
2) The Wide9 tech that the 49ers often use is a double edged sword. Like most all schemes, there are strengths & weaknesses to it. The speed of Bosa & Ford may be a problem for RT O. Brown. However, the off tackle gaps created by the alignment leave room for Ingram/Edwards to run. Relying on the LB's to shut that down means the LB must beat blocks by the Ravens TE trio + FB Ricard. Maybe; maybe not successful.
3) Every week the opponents board sounds the same regarding shutting down LJ & the Ravens O. I ASSURE you that the 9ers do NOT have an LB or a DB who is quick/fast enough to routinely "spy" or shut down Jackson.
4) Kittle presents the most problematic for the Ravens D. The LB's are not great in coverage. The Ravens D is running with 50% different personnel than what started the season and was playing during the KC & CLE 1.0 games where the Ravens got gashed. The Ravens tend to s**t the bed at least once per year against inferior opponents, hope it was the CLE game.
5) No one of football intelligence is dismissing this game as an easy "W" for BAL or SF. Most recognize the quality of both teams The few lunkheads on the Ravens board exist on all boards; yours included.
6) Expect a good game, hopefully no serious injuries on either side. Good luck the rest of the way.

The niners are maybe the only team with a chance at stopping lamar. (Edit) i think they will contain his little runs. He will likely bust a few big ones they just have to cap them at 20-30yds.

Their 3 LBers are very athletic and good tacklers.

The corners are solid enough tacklers in the run game while being excellent in coverage.

The can run the wide 9, while bringing 8 or even 9 into the box. Switching up their outside contain to vary the blocking assignments. Heck wonder if they may go old school 4dl-4lb-3db when the ravens go 1WR.

Also 1 small thing the niners have the capability of simulating the offense and speed of jackson. Not many teams have 3 good fast RBs a great FB and TEs.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Totally agree. I hate that team with a vengeance. They ruined our perfect super bowl win record.

Don't blame Baltimore. Blame Jim Harbaugh and Colin Kaepernick, they're the ones that cost us that game. There is no other reason we shouldn't have been able to beat Baltimore that year.