SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs BALTIMORE RAVENS - Week 13 PREGAME

Will find out how disrespected we are. Much higher than that and we'll have our answer

Originally posted by MSteitz468:
Hit the QB on every option play.

Agree. If you watch the film against the Patriots, when the Ravens option the ball out to a back the defensive end is frozen and trying to play any possibility. That plays into the Ravens hands, and results in the DE achieving nothing, even though he thinks he has preserved himself to defend the pitch to the back. In reality, the back is already too far gone for the DE to make any impact on the play. I say every time they run that option stuff, blast Lamar Jackson, whether he runs it or pitches it. At that point he is a running back, not a quarterback, and should not be afforded any special protections. They may gash us with a few running back pitches, but if Jackson is thumped consistently, it will get in his head and influence his decisions, making him more predictable and hesitant to run. We need to take away his strong suit, his wheels, and force him to win with his arm. What concerns me is that the Niners defense is more of a fast and light defense, so could be vulnerable to a Ravens pounding. We will have to play more guys up near the box. But what are you going to do? Pick your poison and make this team beat you with the pass.

Originally posted by 9ers4u:

Originally posted by davide49:

Originally posted by jcs:
Kap at his best was never the passer L.Jackson already is, and he's a better runner than Kap too.

Ah how quickly people forget. Long live the legend that was Kaepernick for ~2 years.

https://www.49ers.com/video/week-1-colin-kaepernick-highlights-11105835

Looked like a good passer there! Even better than LJ. People look through their own eyes but sometimes never see.

Every soo often a QB comes around and everyone screams "He cannot be stopped! Defenses have no answer for him!".

Then defenses adjust, and they come back to Earth.

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

In this game? Probably Baltimore -21, depending on the weather. It looks like a blowout on paper, looking at it objectively.

lol you're not objective let's be real.

You're right, I'm probably not fully objective since it's difficult to not to let my fandom cloud my judgement and I still tend to see things through rose-colored glasses when it comes to the 49ers.

But even looking through rose-colored glasses, it's still difficult to see us winning this game.

Not winning this game is different than saying they will be blown out.
I bet you are real fun at parties...

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:
In this game? Probably Baltimore -21, depending on the weather. It looks like a blowout on paper, looking at it objectively.

Except Vegas, which is as close to "objective" as there can be (since accuracy - and a history thereof - maximizes betting, and thus money) has the line fluttering between 4 and 6 points. While a 21 point victory may occur, for either team, your prediction is wildly biased or ignorant.

Originally posted by MSteitz468:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

The Patriots couldn't slow them down and their defense is arguably even better than ours.

The pats defense is not better than ours. We have the best defense.

I think that's debatable. They've given up fewer points by a wide margin. Almost half of their season total of points given up were given up in one game, the loss to the Ravens.

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

In this game? Probably Baltimore -21, depending on the weather. It looks like a blowout on paper, looking at it objectively.

Except Vegas, which is as close to "objective" as there can be (since accuracy - and a history thereof - maximizes betting, and thus money) has the line fluttering between 4 and 6 points. While a 21 point victory may occur, for either team, your prediction is wildly biased or ignorant.

Vegas lines are not completely based on objectivity, they're based on what will get people to bet on either team.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Here's the other elite defense trying to stop the Ravens. And in it you'll find the "loading the box" myth buster, with Greg Roman out scheming Bill Bellicheck.

I feel like they run similar personnel groups to SF. A lot of 2 TEs 2 RBs...they get extra blockers in there.

You can run on the Pats. Their front 4 aren't remotely close to what we have IMO. IF (big if) we can get some pressure with just 4, it allows other players to fill up passing lanes/running lanes. We gotta keep our LBers clean to roam. I'm expecting our defense to play similar to how defenses have been playing us. Make him a passer. We have to play discipline football and hit Jackson as much as possible. Make him have to think quickly and mistakes will happen.

As far as offense, we have to run the ball and get up early. Baltimore loves to blitz, which Kyle and JG will feast on IMO. TOP will be important.

I feel like the Ravens game plan kinda goes out the window if they play from behind.

Originally posted by davide49:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

The Patriots couldn't slow them down and their defense is arguably even better than ours.

The Patriot actually totally slowed them down. 370 yards is substantially lower than their average for the year.

Jackson only had ~ 230 yards total offense.

The Pats were only down 4 points going into that 4th quarter.

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

In this game? Probably Baltimore -21, depending on the weather. It looks like a blowout on paper, looking at it objectively.

Except Vegas, which is as close to "objective" as there can be (since accuracy - and a history thereof - maximizes betting, and thus money) has the line fluttering between 4 and 6 points. While a 21 point victory may occur, for either team, your prediction is wildly biased or ignorant.

My posts are not completely based on objectivity, they're based on what will get people to talk about them.

Ftfy

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

Vegas lines are not completely based on objectivity, they're based on what will get people to bet on either team.

If you really believe that the Ravens will win by 21 run to Vegas you'll get like +500 odds. I'm kicking myself for not doing that last week vs the Packers when I knew it was going to be a blowout. Settled for the measly -110 win.

Originally posted by MSteitz468:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:
The Patriots couldn't slow them down and their defense is arguably even better than ours.

The pats defense is not better than ours. We have the best defense.

Pats have the better secondary (but not by a huge margin), but we definitely have the better D Line.

We will he underdogs the rest of the season. Might as well embrace.

The blueprint is out to stop this offense. It's been out for years. Saleh just has to do some research and put it together.


Our offense will have to win us this game imo

Originally posted by cciowa:
we can not be so obsessed with stripping the ball that we are not tackling. that has been a huge turnaround from the last couple of years

first guy tries to tackle the 2nd guy tries to go for the fumble. Swarm to the ball and good things happen.

Originally posted by rathman4481:
We will he underdogs the rest of the season. Might as well embrace.

The blueprint is out to stop this offense. It's been out for years. Saleh just has to do some research and put it together.

Our offense will have to win us this game imo

I highly doubt we are underdogs against the Falcons and Rams. Even the Saints I think we will be favored.