SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs BALTIMORE RAVENS - Week 13 PREGAME

Originally posted by DJamhour:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Every offense that scores a ton is "unstoppable" until it's stopped.
The greatest show on turf was, "unstoppable"
Michael Vick was "unstoppable"
The 2007 Patriots were "Unstoppable"
RGIII was "unstoppable"
Cam Newton was "unstoppable"
The Chiefs were "unstoppable"
the Rams were "unstoppable"
All those teams got stopped from winning a super bowl......

Yep, Every good has thing comes to an end. I'd really like to see if you could come out with a video of ways you think we would attack Jackson and the Ravens offense? Please ! Hahaha but yeah Steelers did pretty good defensively but apparently it wasn't easily to replicate since Pats and Seahawks couldn't limit him enough For the win

Will try and get that out Friday. I've just finished the first of 4 planned review videos, am doing a Texans review video for a good friend of mine who's working overseas in Costa Rica right now and then will look for a scouting video.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Antix:

They're gonna score.points. No way around it.

I think we should be more concerned about if we will score enough against them. They have a damn good defense too, the best we will have faced to this point. By far. On the road. In an extremely hostile environment. Baltimore has one of the low key best home field advantages there is when they are good. Luckily we have KS but if we make too many mistakes this will be a problem. Can we keep up on offense is what I'm actually more concerned with.

The most points thr Ravens can score at any given time is 7 or 8. Can we do enough on offense to keep pace with that? That's honestly the matchup I'm most excited to see.

I was about to bring it up myself.

The fact is teams can't score against the Ravens.

I wondered why until I started looking into it. Their D-line is stout AF.

And this is what I found, their D-line might not be full of sack masters like our boys, but their line is built on size and physicality to stop the run. There is a reason why they are ranked 3rd in Run D when the 9ers are all the way down at 19th. Our D-line personnel types are totally different.

So, get this, how much do you think our DTs weigh? Take Buckner for example, the dude is 300 lbs. And their DTs? 325, 336, 340, 350.

And guess how much our own DEs weigh? Dee Ford 255, Bosa 266. And theirs? 287, 300.

While they might not be getting many sacks, they are nevertheless going to collapse the pocket in a big way. This is further compounded by the fact that the 9ers has the smallest/lightest O-line in the entire NFL. So, believe me, Jimmy G will be feeling it. But, that is not the end of the story, their back end aren't exactly scrubs neither which kind of explains when teams tried to throw on them they couldn't neither on top of not being able to run against those giants.

And this is kind of my fear. If the field is too wet/muddy then those D-linemen will be pushing us around. If it is just dry enough I think we will be OK with our scheme.

Is simple physics. If is down to a bar fight scenario in the mud, their pure size and strength will without doubt out-physical the 9ers.

The 9ers are only physical on the defensive side of the ball. On the offensive side of the ball, we are essentially a finesse team that wins on clever schematics and speed. Our O-line will never be able to handle really physical dudes. Our O-line is primarily a zone blocking line, when it comes to pass protection we are pretty sh*t actually if I am being honest.

They have bigger DL because they run a 3-4. Comparing size in our lines is a silly exercise because we are comparing apples and oranges.

And more size does not necessarily mean stronger, size also doesn't necessarily trump skill. We have "smaller" beat "bigger" countless times in the NFL.

There is also a small sample size of what we are capable of in pass pro given the injuries and changes at OT. We have had 3 different bodies at LT and 2 at RT. OL's tend to improve as the year wears on when the same 5 can stay in tact. This will be the first game lining up with Brunskill at LT from the start of the game and he fared better in pass pro than Skule did.

I think I'm going to donate my peck to Kwon. The end result might be one side of his chest looking a little bigger than the other, but I think it would be worth it for this game.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

Honestly, I think KS & Salah saved the hitting the QB on every RPO play gameplan for this specific game. They didn't wanna give away anything the last couple of weeks that would show the Ravens that we know how to defend this kind of offense so they could gameplan accordingly. Expect our DEs to put a lick on LJ on every RPO play.

Do to them what they did to us in years past

Yezzir!!

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Antix:
They're gonna score.points. No way around it.

I think we should be more concerned about if we will score enough against them. They have a damn good defense too, the best we will have faced to this point. By far. On the road. In an extremely hostile environment. Baltimore has one of the low key best home field advantages there is when they are good. Luckily we have KS but if we make too many mistakes this will be a problem. Can we keep up on offense is what I'm actually more concerned with.

The most points thr Ravens can score at any given time is 7 or 8. Can we do enough on offense to keep pace with that? That's honestly the matchup I'm most excited to see.

I was about to bring it up myself.

The fact is teams can't score against the Ravens.

I wondered why until I started looking into it. Their D-line is stout AF.

And this is what I found, their D-line might not be full of sack masters like our boys, but their line is built on size and physicality to stop the run. There is a reason why they are ranked 3rd in Run D when the 9ers are all the way down at 19th. Our D-line personnel types are totally different.

So, get this, how much do you think our DTs weigh? Take Buckner for example, the dude is 300 lbs. And their DTs? 325, 336, 340, 350.

And guess how much our own DEs weigh? Dee Ford 255, Bosa 266. And theirs? 287, 300.

While they might not be getting many sacks, they are nevertheless going to collapse the pocket in a big way. This is further compounded by the fact that the 9ers has the smallest/lightest O-line in the entire NFL. So, believe me, Jimmy G will be feeling it. But, that is not the end of the story, their back end aren't exactly scrubs neither which kind of explains when teams tried to throw on them they couldn't neither on top of not being able to run against those giants.

And this is kind of my fear. If the field is too wet/muddy then those D-linemen will be pushing us around. If it is just dry enough I think we will be OK with our scheme.

Is simple physics. If is down to a bar fight scenario in the mud, their pure size and strength will without doubt out-physical the 9ers.

The 9ers are only physical on the defensive side of the ball. On the offensive side of the ball, we are essentially a finesse team that wins on clever schematics and speed. Our O-line will never be able to handle really physical dudes. Our O-line is primarily a zone blocking line, when it comes to pass protection we are pretty sh*t actually if I am being honest.

They have bigger DL because they run a 3-4. Comparing size in our lines is a silly exercise because we are comparing apples and oranges.

And more size does not necessarily mean stronger, size also doesn't necessarily trump skill. We have "smaller" beat "bigger" countless times in the NFL.

There is also a small sample size of what we are capable of in pass pro given the injuries and changes at OT. We have had 3 different bodies at LT and 2 at RT. OL's tend to improve as the year wears on when the same 5 can stay in tact. This will be the first game lining up with Brunskill at LT from the start of the game and he fared better in pass pro than Skule did.

I think the size differential is only an issue if the field gets too wet/sloppy.

I almost think we need to play a 5-2 or hybrid 4-3/3-4 to stop their running game.

If we can hold Ingram in check we will be fine.

Ingram is the key in my opinion, not Lamar. You stop Ingram up the middle and off guard and between the tackles Lamar will somehow have less room as well.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Next gen offense?

Give me a break. It's Greg freakin Roman.

Seriously...this is our first two years with Kaep. Harbaugh doing what his brother did. The more I look at the Ravens the more I see similar characteristics, even in personnel.

Marc Ingram 5'9" 215 lbs
Frank Gore 5'9" 216 lbs

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Watch him vs. the Bengals. Completely upright and mostly up the middle. Runs like a WR not like an RB. Doesn't slide. How is this guys career going to last?

https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/watch-lamar-jackson-s-record-setting-runs

he won't last unless he starts to play more like wilson

but hey, if he can win a superbowl or two then maybe its worth it

They love going heavy with their TEs....we loved going heavy with Davis and Walker...we are basically playing the Jim Harbaugh Niners.

Originally posted by Niners_D:

They love going heavy with their TEs....we loved going heavy with Davis and Walker...we are basically playing the Jim Harbaugh Niners.

with a better qb in jackson

Originally posted by Jaci:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Antix:
They're gonna score.points. No way around it.

I think we should be more concerned about if we will score enough against them. They have a damn good defense too, the best we will have faced to this point. By far. On the road. In an extremely hostile environment. Baltimore has one of the low key best home field advantages there is when they are good. Luckily we have KS but if we make too many mistakes this will be a problem. Can we keep up on offense is what I'm actually more concerned with.

The most points thr Ravens can score at any given time is 7 or 8. Can we do enough on offense to keep pace with that? That's honestly the matchup I'm most excited to see.

I was about to bring it up myself.

The fact is teams can't score against the Ravens.

I wondered why until I started looking into it. Their D-line is stout AF.

And this is what I found, their D-line might not be full of sack masters like our boys, but their line is built on size and physicality to stop the run. There is a reason why they are ranked 3rd in Run D when the 9ers are all the way down at 19th. Our D-line personnel types are totally different.

So, get this, how much do you think our DTs weigh? Take Buckner for example, the dude is 300 lbs. And their DTs? 325, 336, 340, 350.

And guess how much our own DEs weigh? Dee Ford 255, Bosa 266. And theirs? 287, 300.

While they might not be getting many sacks, they are nevertheless going to collapse the pocket in a big way. This is further compounded by the fact that the 9ers has the smallest/lightest O-line in the entire NFL. So, believe me, Jimmy G will be feeling it. But, that is not the end of the story, their back end aren't exactly scrubs neither which kind of explains when teams tried to throw on them they couldn't neither on top of not being able to run against those giants.

And this is kind of my fear. If the field is too wet/muddy then those D-linemen will be pushing us around. If it is just dry enough I think we will be OK with our scheme.

Is simple physics. If is down to a bar fight scenario in the mud, their pure size and strength will without doubt out-physical the 9ers.

The 9ers are only physical on the defensive side of the ball. On the offensive side of the ball, we are essentially a finesse team that wins on clever schematics and speed. Our O-line will never be able to handle really physical dudes. Our O-line is primarily a zone blocking line, when it comes to pass protection we are pretty sh*t actually if I am being honest.

Niners finesse offense?
Is that what kittle said to baker while he was stiff arming him for a td with a popped knee cap and chipped bone?
Or deebo when he is constantly going over the middle?
You are way off on this one dude. If you are specifically talking about oline, they have been playing ever which way due to injuries- I think they are doing well and getting a healthy Staley back will help.

Kittle in the only exception.

Look at our WR corps, tell me who is big, strong and physical other than Jalen Hurd who is out for the year? Deebo? Errr, may be. Look at the rest. All of them are small, skinny and soft. Sanders, Goodwin, Pettis, etc. One good hit can sort them out in a blink of an eye.

I stand by what I say about the O-line. It is not a pass pro line, it is a line designed to be light and shifty for zone run blocking. Even if Staley gets back, the guy is old. We all saw how Clowney embarrassed the fxxk out of him on Monday Night Football. And how about McGlinchey? The kid gets regularly owned too.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Niners_D:
They love going heavy with their TEs....we loved going heavy with Davis and Walker...we are basically playing the Jim Harbaugh Niners.

with a better qb in jackson

but not that good of a defense.

Fred warner needs to play like he did on sunday night

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Niners_D:
They love going heavy with their TEs....we loved going heavy with Davis and Walker...we are basically playing the Jim Harbaugh Niners.

with a better qb in jackson

True, but it wasn't until opposing defenses figured out Kaep, and he had some health issues that he started looking very mortal. Jackson is still early in the curve.