SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs BALTIMORE RAVENS - Week 13 PREGAME

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
it's this guy again with the same sh!t over and over again.

What is the matter? You don't want to hear the truth? Can't hold an adult conversation?

nah I just hate listening to a scratched CD.

I didn't know scratched CDs were playable.

Originally posted by LVJay:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ravens60:

The niners will lose by 10 Sunday.
You guys played 1 good team and that was Seattle and you lost. Then you beat GB with an over the hill Arron Rogers.

That's it. Jimmy G has 20 touchdowns and 10 picks. So so.
Ravens D will shut you're running game down and you will never beat us in the air, we have the best secondary in football.You don't have much of a chance but good luck anyway.
Oh, we very seldom lose at home.

Enjoy.

Nope.

"Through 11 games, San Francisco has allowed just 1,506 passing yards. That's the fewest by any team through 11 games since the 1989 Minnesota Vikings, and it's the second lowest amount for any team after 11 games since 1980."

This ravens60 dude was the fool that PMd me for his first post lol.

She send any nudes, bruh or she just all talk / tease

I wish lol. I think this is the first time that I have ever received hate mail from a random fan of an enemy team for an upcoming big game.

I'm so ready for this game!

Either we haven't played the saints yet or Ravens blow us out after Sunday lol..

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

it's this guy again with the same sh!t over and over again.

What is the matter? You don't want to hear the truth? Can't hold an adult conversation?

nah I just hate listening to a scratched CD.

Dis guy not too akamai

Come on guys, play nice.

#ibelieveinXERXES

Originally posted by NSTrailerParker:
Here's to hoping Shanny and Saleh can expose a blueprint that, thus far, Bellichek, Carroll, et al have yet to figure out. Hopefully something grander than simply "winning the line of scrimmage" or "maintaining gap integrity". Would love to be ones to shut their show down.

I watched the Patriots vs Ravens game and Bellicheat came up with some five man fronts that stopped Baltimor's RPO cold. It involved a 5 man line in an almost wide nine formation and one of the linebackers run blitzed right into the dive option and then the wide DE played contain against Lamar. However, having stopped the Ravens on that drive, Edleman fumbles and the Ravens went on to score and got a 4 point lead on the Patriots and then a series or two later, Tom throws an interception to Earl and that's when the Raven's ground game started grinding the Cheat-riots to pieces. If not for the Edleman fumble and the Brady Interception, it looked to me like it would be a close 3 point win by Tom and Bellicheat.

In the Ravens vs Browns game that the Ravens lost, Mayfield damaged the Ravens on a couple of screen passes and beat the Raven blitz a couple of times. Baltimore really has a hard time throwing deep (Lamar's accuracy is just not there yet) and Chubb and the Brown's run game gashed that supposed impenetrable run defense to the tune of 193 yards on the ground. The Browns, I thought, had a good enough pass rush to bother Lamar when he threw.

I think the Ravens haven't faced a ground game like ours. The rain might slow down our run game, but even in the Washington game, we still ran jet sweeps (or tried to) and so I think even with the rain, with Kittle, Emanuel, Dwelley and Deebo I think we'll have enough pass offense to control that Baltimore defense and ice that Baltimore offense.

I think we can keep their run game in check - we have to force Jackson to beat us with their passing game. He's not the prettiest thrower in the world, but he is effective.

Unlike a lot of folks in this thread I see our defense matching up well with the ravens, especially at the safety position. Tartt is going to be playing a lot in the box while ward has the range to play single high. This should keep it simple for the strong side linebackers letting them play fast. Don't get me wrong, Jackson is going to make plays but our wide nine front with a single high safety is going to allow our defense to continue to play our game mixing up man and zone, and should give Lamar fits, or at least make him look human.

Unless they are getting their linemen from the same wishing well we found Brunskill DJ Jones is going to have a field day and they are going to have a hell of a time getting to the P part of RPO when our DT is crashing through each play while their UDFA rookie center is on his back.

On the other side of the ball I see our outside run game coming back to life with kittle and juice back and their huge lumbering d line. We will beat them to the edges every time.

We are going to win this game by a touchdown with a ball control run first offense.

27-20 49ers.

Monday people will ask what was wrong with the ravens, the flu? Can the 49ers stop drew Brees?!

Originally posted by AkNiners:
Unlike a lot of folks in this thread I see our defense matching up well with the ravens, especially at the safety position. Tartt is going to be playing a lot in the box while ward has the range to play single high. This should keep it simple for the strong side linebackers letting them play fast. Don't get me wrong, Jackson is going to make plays but our wide nine front with a single high safety is going to allow our defense to continue to play our game mixing up man and zone, and should give Lamar fits, or at least make him look human.

Unless they are getting their linemen from the same wishing well we found Brunskill DJ Jones is going to have a field day and they are going to have a hell of a time getting to the P part of RPO when our DT is crashing through each play while their UDFA rookie center is on his back.

On the other side of the ball I see our outside run game coming back to life with kittle and juice back and their huge lumbering d line. We will beat them to the edges every time.

We are going to win this game by a touchdown with a ball control run first offense.

27-20 49ers.

Monday people will ask what was wrong with the ravens, the flu? Can the 49ers stop drew Brees?!

Good post.

I don't get why so many people on the WZ are so defeatist.

This has been our best year by far in the last 6 or 7 or even longer.

Our defense has been top notch and shutting down some great offenses consistently.

Maybe it is because some people are still in dumpster fire mode and still think this year is like a good dream and we are bout to be woke up and it is all dumpster fire again.

Well dumpster fire isn't the truth. Us winning is the truth.

All the experts were picking GB last week but the 49ers not only humbled them but embarrassed and elite veteran QB.

GB were out schemed offensively and defensively.

So the next week so many are all so doom and gloom.

I have news for you. 49ers will smash the Ravens. Salah will out scheme the defense and shut down Lamar by confusing his reads. Kyle will scheme a great offense so we run and pass rings around them.

Some of you need to learn to stop worrying. Your worry wont help the 49ers win the game. Just sit back and enjoy it. It is a magical year and nothing succeeds like success

Originally posted by Seattle49er:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

it's this guy again with the same sh!t over and over again.

What is the matter? You don't want to hear the truth? Can't hold an adult conversation?

nah I just hate listening to a scratched CD.

Dis guy not too akamai

yup

if its raining they have the advantage but we also have a great run game. this game more than any Jimmy has to be accurate or take the the sack. a turnover against this team will be deadly because they can score any time they want. If the pass rushers can contain Lamar and keep him in the pocket/sack him we are good. if he gets in the open field when our guys have no traction, its a TD

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by AkNiners:

Unlike a lot of folks in this thread I see our defense matching up well with the ravens, especially at the safety position. Tartt is going to be playing a lot in the box while ward has the range to play single high. This should keep it simple for the strong side linebackers letting them play fast. Don't get me wrong, Jackson is going to make plays but our wide nine front with a single high safety is going to allow our defense to continue to play our game mixing up man and zone, and should give Lamar fits, or at least make him look human.

Unless they are getting their linemen from the same wishing well we found Brunskill DJ Jones is going to have a field day and they are going to have a hell of a time getting to the P part of RPO when our DT is crashing through each play while their UDFA rookie center is on his back.

On the other side of the ball I see our outside run game coming back to life with kittle and juice back and their huge lumbering d line. We will beat them to the edges every time.

We are going to win this game by a touchdown with a ball control run first offense.

27-20 49ers.

Monday people will ask what was wrong with the ravens, the flu? Can the 49ers stop drew Brees?!

Good post.

I don't get why so many people on the WZ are so defeatist.

This has been our best year by far in the last 6 or 7 or even longer.

Our defense has been top notch and shutting down some great offenses consistently.

Maybe it is because some people are still in dumpster fire mode and still think this year is like a good dream and we are bout to be woke up and it is all dumpster fire again.

Well dumpster fire isn't the truth. Us winning is the truth.

All the experts were picking GB last week but the 49ers not only humbled them but embarrassed and elite veteran QB.

GB were out schemed offensively and defensively.

So the next week so many are all so doom and gloom.

I have news for you. 49ers will smash the Ravens. Salah will out scheme the defense and shut down Lamar by confusing his reads. Kyle will scheme a great offense so we run and pass rings around them.

Some of you need to learn to stop worrying. Your worry wont help the 49ers win the game. Just sit back and enjoy it. It is a magical year and nothing succeeds like success

So many people? A lot? there's only 2 or 3 in here that matches that defeatist description. They know who they are. The rest of us have faith in our team and can't wait for Sunday to come, so we can witness our Niners on a rescue mission to bring the Ravens back down to earth, they're flying high in space right now.

I noticed there Guard "Bradley Bozeman" didn't participate because of an ankle. Is it possible there out 2 Olinemen for this one?

Originally posted by Giedi:
I watched the Patriots vs Ravens game and Bellicheat came up with some five man fronts that stopped Baltimor's RPO cold. It involved a 5 man line in an almost wide nine formation and one of the linebackers run blitzed right into the dive option and then the wide DE played contain against Lamar. However, having stopped the Ravens on that drive, Edleman fumbles and the Ravens went on to score and got a 4 point lead on the Patriots and then a series or two later, Tom throws an interception to Earl and that's when the Raven's ground game started grinding the Cheat-riots to pieces. If not for the Edleman fumble and the Brady Interception, it looked to me like it would be a close 3 point win by Tom and Bellicheat.

Neither the Cardinals nor the Ravens are doing anything particularly groundbreaking in terms of their offensive approach. You're basically seeing spread offenses get run out of big peoples. They are distracting you with the razzle dazzle and then punching you in the face with their two and three TE formations. Defenses will eventually start to figure it out, just like what we saw with the extensive use of the read option in 2012. We saw how quickly the 49ers made adjustments from the first Cardinals game to the second. I have no doubt that Belichick will be opening up his whole bag of tricks should he see Baltimore in the playoffs.

Ultimately when it comes to the Ravens, defenses just have to commit to hitting Lamar Jackson everytime he tries running those read options. If they want to play pretend and act like he's a RB then you hit him like he is a RB each and every single play. You'll undoubtedly get flagged and you'll get gashed on the ground by their RB's a few times but if defenses did this game after game, he'd be a lot less jazzed up to take off and run as frequently and they'd be less likely to call those plays period. While the NFL still allows it, defenses just have to keep blasting these QBs. Run them over every time and eventually it cease being an issue because no one wants to see their QB get mauled game after game.

I've posted this play before but this is what the unblocked guy has to do on every read option play. The 49ers got absolutely gashed by Lynch here but how many times do you want to see your QB rocked like this? Brooks flat out ignores everything else and just wrecks Wilson.



What San Diego had success with against Baltimore in the playoffs was just loading up with defensive backs and sending guys flying to the ball on each play. The Chargers had a four man rush with often seven DB's out on the field and it stopped Baltimore dead in their tracks, then they got behind and this is not an offense that is really built to play from behind. You're not going to beat them with power so you may as well try to beat them with speed and limit their opportunities for big plays on the ground.

I just hope that win or lose, the team doesn't let themselves fall apart the way the Rams did. That was absolutely disgraceful, that defense showed zero heart and zero pride, they just let the Ravens run wild all over them and never seemed to offer even the slightest resistance. If you're going to lose, lose playing hard, hitting hard and not quitting until the clock runs out in the fourth quarter.