SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs BALTIMORE RAVENS - Week 13 PREGAME

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Lamar Jackson is their best player and without him they'll fold. Teams usually double team the opposing team's best player.

I say we should double team Lamar and totally take him out of his game. Our unblocked DE should hit LJ on every RPO play, on top of that put Tartt/Ward as a spy incase he escapes on every play. Smother LJ and we should be able to shut them down.

Also, play Julian Taylor more instead of Sheldon Day to penetrate and collapse the middle with DJ Jones to force Ingram to hesitate and stutter step in the backfield.

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Lamar Jackson is their best player and without him they'll fold. Teams usually double team the opposing team's best player.

I say we should double team Lamar and totally take him out of his game. Our unblocked DE should hit LJ on every RPO play, on top of that put Tartt/Ward as a spy incase he escapes on every play. Smother LJ and we should be able to shut them down.

Also, play Julian Taylor more instead of Sheldon Day to penetrate and collapse the middle with DJ Jones to force Ingram to hesitate and stutter step in the backfield.

Originally posted by cciowa:

i am not advocating for him to get hurt. but if he gets hurt. thats fine with me

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

Lamar Jackson is their best player and without him they'll fold. Teams usually double team the opposing team's best player.

I say we should double team Lamar and totally take him out of his game. Our unblocked DE should hit LJ on every RPO play, on top of that put Tartt/Ward as a spy incase he escapes on every play. Smother LJ and we should be able to shut them down.

Also, play Julian Taylor more instead of Sheldon Day to penetrate and collapse the middle with DJ Jones to force Ingram to hesitate and stutter step in the backfield.

i am not advocating for him to get hurt. but if he gets hurt. thats fine with me

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

i'm sure there's a million ways to defend LJ, it's a lot easier said than done though. I would just force him to be a passer as much as you could.

Originally posted by cciowa:

i am not advocating for him to get hurt. but if he gets hurt. thats fine with me

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by pdfortune:

Good news for the 49ers, because James no nothing Jones thinks the 49ers won't force a punt. Also, Jones made excuses for the Packers loss, because Rodgers stayed in the pocket. At some point there will be a market correction with Jackson and the Ravens, and this week would be nice. The Ravens did it to Kaepernick in the Super Bowl, because they made sure he got hit on the read options even when he handed it off. The Ravens defense is hardly amazing. They shut down the Rams that had a hard time with the Bears that are currently having a hard time with a practice squad QB in Detroit.

Good recollection on how Ravens played Kaep. We should make sure to return the favor.

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Lamar Jackson is their best player and without him they'll fold. Teams usually double team the opposing team's best player.

I say we should double team Lamar and totally take him out of his game. Our unblocked DE should hit LJ on every RPO play, on top of that put Tartt/Ward as a spy incase he escapes on every play. Smother LJ and we should be able to shut them down.

Also, play Julian Taylor more instead of Sheldon Day to penetrate and collapse the middle with DJ Jones to force Ingram to hesitate and stutter step in the backfield.

i am not advocating for him to get hurt. but if he gets hurt. thats fine with me

My bad, I should've word it better. Didn't mean to literally take him out as in hurting him. I meant take him out of his game play. Put 2 guys on him and smother him all day.

Originally posted by SFTifoso:

Originally posted by cciowa:
i am not advocating for him to get hurt. but if he gets hurt. thats fine with me

I hope we hurt him physically and mentally. I hope we force him to leave the game. I don't wish him injury though. There's a difference between hurting your opponent and injuring him.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by SFTifoso:

Originally posted by cciowa:

i am not advocating for him to get hurt. but if he gets hurt. thats fine with me

I hope we hurt him physically and mentally. I hope we force him to leave the game. I don't wish him injury though. There's a difference between hurting your opponent and injuring him.

thats what I meant. thank you. yes smack him in the mouth like he has never been hit before. just do what we have been doing to other quarterbacks and see if he can take it. not dirty. just the usual violent normal play the front guys play with

Originally posted by SFTifoso:
Yup that's what coach Saleh means when he advocates "extreme violence". Let's put some legal brutal hits on him. Make them regret running the read option. This is still football gents!

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Lamar Jackson is their best player and without him they'll fold. Teams usually double team the opposing team's best player.

I say we should double team Lamar and totally take him out of his game. Our unblocked DE should hit LJ on every RPO play, on top of that put Tartt/Ward as a spy incase he escapes on every play. Smother LJ and we should be able to shut them down.

Also, play Julian Taylor more instead of Sheldon Day to penetrate and collapse the middle with DJ Jones to force Ingram to hesitate and stutter step in the backfield.

i am not advocating for him to get hurt. but if he gets hurt. thats fine with me

My bad, I should've word it better. Didn't mean to literally take him out as in hurting him. I meant take him out of his game play. Put 2 guys on him and smother him all day.

i realized that after i read your post again as i did a knee jerk thing.. then it got me thinking. lol

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Neither the Cardinals nor the Ravens are doing anything particularly groundbreaking in terms of their offensive approach. You're basically seeing spread offenses get run out of big peoples. They are distracting you with the razzle dazzle and then punching you in the face with their two and three TE formations. Defenses will eventually start to figure it out, just like what we saw with the extensive use of the read option in 2012. We saw how quickly the 49ers made adjustments from the first Cardinals game to the second. I have no doubt that Belichick will be opening up his whole bag of tricks should he see Baltimore in the playoffs.

Ultimately when it comes to the Ravens, defenses just have to commit to hitting Lamar Jackson everytime he tries running those read options. If they want to play pretend and act like he's a RB then you hit him like he is a RB each and every single play. You'll undoubtedly get flagged and you'll get gashed on the ground by their RB's a few times but if defenses did this game after game, he'd be a lot less jazzed up to take off and run as frequently and they'd be less likely to call those plays period. While the NFL still allows it, defenses just have to keep blasting these QBs. Run them over every time and eventually it cease being an issue because no one wants to see their QB get mauled game after game.

I've posted this play before but this is what the unblocked guy has to do on every read option play. The 49ers got absolutely gashed by Lynch here but how many times do you want to see your QB rocked like this? Brooks flat out ignores everything else and just wrecks Wilson.



What San Diego had success with against Baltimore in the playoffs was just loading up with defensive backs and sending guys flying to the ball on each play. The Chargers had a four man rush with often seven DB's out on the field and it stopped Baltimore dead in their tracks, then they got behind and this is not an offense that is really built to play from behind. You're not going to beat them with power so you may as well try to beat them with speed and limit their opportunities for big plays on the ground.

I just hope that win or lose, the team doesn't let themselves fall apart the way the Rams did. That was absolutely disgraceful, that defense showed zero heart and zero pride, they just let the Ravens run wild all over them and never seemed to offer even the slightest resistance. If you're going to lose, lose playing hard, hitting hard and not quitting until the clock runs out in the fourth quarter.

Originally posted by mayo49:
I'm surprised Buck and Aikman aren't doing the game - it's an insult to us and the Ravens that Burkhardt and Davis are doing the game.