Will the 49ers ever beat the Ravens or the Seahawks in a big game that matters?

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Shanahan is 0-0 in the playoffs. So I'm pretty sure the jury is still very much out on him when it comes to winning big games.

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

They beat us a lot more than 1 time each. They beat us regularly in the regular season big match ups and certainly in the playoffs, NFC Championship or Super Bowl games too.

9ers beat the Ravens in 2015.

Beat the Seahawks last year. Beat them when team was good too.

Seattle and Baltimore are hard places to win. One we only visit every 8 years. Other has been tough but they aren't what they used to be up there.

Overemotional reactions aren't generally good looks over time.

I have no doubt we win the Seattle game if Kittle plays. The game was an outlier in my mind.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They beat us a lot more than 1 time each. They beat us regularly in the regular season big match ups and certainly in the playoffs, NFC Championship or Super Bowl games too.

9ers beat the Ravens in 2015.

Beat the Seahawks last year. Beat them when team was good too.

Seattle and Baltimore are hard places to win. One we only visit every 8 years. Other has been tough but they aren't what they used to be up there.

Overemotional reactions aren't generally good looks over time.

I can remember pretty routinely getting pounded by Baltimore and Seattle in the Alex Smith and Kaepernick years. Yeah you can find a year here or there. But you got to admit in the modern era in recent years these two teams MOSTLY beat us. In big games in the regular season or playoffs.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
9ers beat the Ravens in 2015.

Beat the Seahawks last year. Beat them when team was good too.

Seattle and Baltimore are hard places to win. One we only visit every 8 years. Other has been tough but they aren't what they used to be up there.

Overemotional reactions aren't generally good looks over time.

If he posted this 7 years ago it would have held up though.

The hawks have dominated us overall for YEARS now.

I think we get them in SEA this time, but only because i don't want to know how i'll react if they beat us again. My brain won't let me imagine another L.

Originally posted by Hopper:
I have no doubt we win the Seattle game if Kittle plays. The game was an outlier in my mind.

It's possible. But it seems like we pretty routinely lose at Seattle. I have not seen a lot of evidence over many years that we have a high likelihood of winning at Seattle in any big match up regular season or playoffs.

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
9ers beat the Ravens in 2015.

Beat the Seahawks last year. Beat them when team was good too.

Seattle and Baltimore are hard places to win. One we only visit every 8 years. Other has been tough but they aren't what they used to be up there.

Overemotional reactions aren't generally good looks over time.

If he posted this 7 years ago it would have held up though.

The hawks have dominated us overall for YEARS now.

I think we get them in SEA this time, but only because i don't want to know how i'll react if they beat us again. My brain won't let me imagine another L.

Yes.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

I can remember pretty routinely getting pounded by Baltimore and Seattle in the Alex Smith and Kaepernick years. Yeah you can find a year here or there. But you got to admit in the modern era in recent years these two teams MOSTLY beat us. In big games in the regular season or playoffs.

9ers were 3-4 against Seattle during the playoff years. Only got pounded twice. Couldve won both playoff matchups against both teams with better coaching.

Only played Baltimore once during that era.

Overemotional overreaction. Baltimore beat this team by a freaking FG at the buzzer. It wasn't a pounding.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

I can remember pretty routinely getting pounded by Baltimore and Seattle in the Alex Smith and Kaepernick years. Yeah you can find a year here or there. But you got to admit in the modern era in recent years these two teams MOSTLY beat us. In big games in the regular season or playoffs.

9ers were 3-4 against Seattle during the playoff years. Only got pounded twice. Couldve won both playoff matchups against both teams with better coaching.

Only played Baltimore once during that era.

Overemotional overreaction. Baltimore beat this team by a freaking FG at the buzzer. It wasn't a pounding.

women are emotional creatures.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I can remember pretty routinely getting pounded by Baltimore and Seattle in the Alex Smith and Kaepernick years. Yeah you can find a year here or there. But you got to admit in the modern era in recent years these two teams MOSTLY beat us. In big games in the regular season or playoffs.

9ers were 3-4 against Seattle during the playoff years. Only got pounded twice. Couldve won both playoff matchups against both teams with better coaching.

Only played Baltimore once during that era.

Overemotional overreaction. Baltimore beat this team by a freaking FG at the buzzer. It wasn't a pounding.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. If we just had a lot more of that we beat the Ravens and Seahawks no doubt.

Originally posted by TyCore:

If he posted this 7 years ago it would have held up though.

The hawks have dominated us overall for YEARS now.

I think we get them in SEA this time, but only because i don't want to know how i'll react if they beat us again. My brain won't let me imagine another L.

Everyone dominated us from 2015 to 2017. Seattle wasn't unique. Hell Arizona won what 10 straight?

Of course they will. I understand the frustration but ever is, well, ever. As in literally till the end of time if you want to look at it that way.

But I don't know how many "big games" we've even played against the Ravens. The Super Bowl, yes. Today in a lesser sense. And it is a lesser sense because we still lead the division if Minnesota beats Seattle and have a chance to beat the Saints next week and still "lead" the conference. The Super Bowl, we started out playing like crap and then yes while it wasn't the reason we lost got totally jobbed by the officials as well. Probably a lot of us still remember the second half kickoff where a Ravens player I think almost literally picked Bruce Miller up if memory serves and carried him along down the field by the shoulder pads and no hold was called. Other than that the "big games" were mostly the media saying, "Oh look here are two brothers. It's the Harbaugh Bowl!!!"

Seattle, I always felt like those three years it was almost a guarantee we would get our teeth kicked in there and hopefully make enough plays to squeak out a win at home. I think in all honesty the one year it was sort of competitive in Seattle was when we had arguably our worst team during that run, interestingly enough.

Hate to say it but Seattle was probably just the better overall team those years. I don't feel that they are this year. And even with that, yes we beat them in a game that matters. I still go back sometimes and watch Gore's 50 something yard run with one of our offensive linemen celebrating wildly. That pretty much iced the game when he did that.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

9ers were 3-4 against Seattle during the playoff years. Only got pounded twice. Couldve won both playoff matchups against both teams with better coaching.

Only played Baltimore once during that era.

Overemotional overreaction. Baltimore beat this team by a freaking FG at the buzzer. It wasn't a pounding.

They played Baltimore twice and one of them was on a Thursday where they had to fly across the country on a short week. Still had a chance to win if Ted Ginn isn't such a butterfingers. The second was the SB and they were simply outcoached and beaten by a hot Flacco going through the only four game period of his career where he actually looked like a franchise QB.



After today, I'm not scared if the 49ers got to the SB and had to face Baltimore again. They held up well against a physical rushing attack in terrible conditions. I don't see this defense playing any worse under ideal conditions and they really were slowing a crazy hot offense down in the second half. If the 49ers made it there and Baltimore somehow got past the Belichicks in Round 2, I say bring them on.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Hopper:
I have no doubt we win the Seattle game if Kittle plays. The game was an outlier in my mind.

It's possible. But it seems like we pretty routinely lose at Seattle. I have not seen a lot of evidence over many years that we have a high likelihood of winning at Seattle in any big match up regular season or playoffs.

This is the first contending team we've had in 6 years. I don't think your looking at this objectively.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I can remember pretty routinely getting pounded by Baltimore and Seattle in the Alex Smith and Kaepernick years. Yeah you can find a year here or there. But you got to admit in the modern era in recent years these two teams MOSTLY beat us. In big games in the regular season or playoffs.

9ers were 3-4 against Seattle during the playoff years. Only got pounded twice. Couldve won both playoff matchups against both teams with better coaching.

Only played Baltimore once during that era.

Overemotional overreaction. Baltimore beat this team by a freaking FG at the buzzer. It wasn't a pounding.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. If we just had a lot more of that we beat the Ravens and Seahawks no doubt.

Thank you. Obviously since Baltimore was a AFC team and we play teams from entire divisions on a yearly rotating basis we weren't even playing Baltimore regularly.