I am a dark skinned "minority" and did not find Ryan's comment racist at all. I actually thought it was logical and I think it was dumb to suspend him.
I am glad I moved back to Hawaii as race is not a daily issue for me as it was living in Cali. From my experience, The term 'minority' (which to me is submissive) is not typically brought up in the islands.
The only thing that sucks is that flying up to watch a game once a year with my family costs a fortune. Go Niners.
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Dec 4, 2019 at 7:44 PM
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Dec 4, 2019 at 7:44 PM
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Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by Afrikan:Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by Afrikan:but he's also wearing a black gloves...
like I said before... if there were other QBs who wore black gloves, who were lighter than Lamar (or hell just white).. we would have heard this before. He tried to be the front office's b***h again by making excuses for the coaching staff/players who kept making mistakes against Lamar.
Kap's skin color looks nothing like the ball, so this isn't a relevant counter point.
sure.
edit- here's a night game.
You can post whatever photos you want, Kap and Jackson arent the same skin color.
Your argument that he would've said it when we had Kap is an enormous reach in the first place.
Love the grainy low def pic 2nd from the bottom to help with your point smh
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:45 PM
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Kap is half WHITE, no where near the same skin tone as a true AA man. Kap also has always had the distinct challenge of his "white priviledge" to over come as well.
Never compare a real black man to a half white, oppressed suburb kid that had to over come the brutal life and death game of trying to survive the deadly streets of Wisconsin growing up just for the opportunity to get a free college education on the way to $140 million dollar contract........it's just not the same thing.
Never compare a real black man to a half white, oppressed suburb kid that had to over come the brutal life and death game of trying to survive the deadly streets of Wisconsin growing up just for the opportunity to get a free college education on the way to $140 million dollar contract........it's just not the same thing.
[ Edited by Kyzen on Dec 4, 2019 at 7:46 PM ]
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:46 PM
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Oh man, where is the ball? Impossible to see.
Tim took too many shots to the head. His take is dumb. If it was a thing, QBs would all wear sleeves.
[ Edited by TheWooLick on Dec 4, 2019 at 7:48 PM ]
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:46 PM
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To me the issue is REAL. It's damn hard to find the ball on Lamar Jackson. Just watch the games. I have no idea where the ball is when he has it or when he does those fake hand offs and pulls it back. That is really happening IMO. I believe it is the Ravens very dark uniforms at play. At least their home jerseys. I can see it on him a little more on the away white jerseys. The same exact player. Lamar Jackson running around. I have no idea where the ball is on the Ravens home jerseys on a lot of guys. It really just blends in there. It's like completely hidden. I'm struck by that really watching the games. I don't know how people find the ball on Lamar Jackson. I can't. I can say that for sure.
Could you word that much more carefully? YES. Would it be best not to say what he said? Yes probably.
I don't believe the INTENTION was to be racist though. We live in an overly politically correct society where everybody walks around on egg shells censoring themselves and others about what to say. It's ridiculous. If you say things all day long every day sooner or later you say 10,000 things. So 9,999 of them are right. And you get 1 wrong. Who can live up to that standard? It's absurd. I don't think that was intentional but some people are taking it badly. Tim Ryan is a pretty good guy as has been said.
The ISSUE he actually raised is REAL. It's hard as hell to see the ball on Lamar Jackson. Just watch the games. I have no idea where it is when he does those fake hand offs or if he pulls the ball back. I think it is a REAL issue which has more to do with the Ravens uniforms than skin tone. But I don't see how you can watch the Ravens games and say it's not true. I have absolutely no idea where the ball is on Lamar Jackson when I watch the games. I'm struck by that for sure. On the 49ers red uniform I can always see the ball. I can't see it on the Ravens home jerseys well. I actually think it gives them somewhat of an advantage.
Could you word that much more carefully? YES. Would it be best not to say what he said? Yes probably.
I don't believe the INTENTION was to be racist though. We live in an overly politically correct society where everybody walks around on egg shells censoring themselves and others about what to say. It's ridiculous. If you say things all day long every day sooner or later you say 10,000 things. So 9,999 of them are right. And you get 1 wrong. Who can live up to that standard? It's absurd. I don't think that was intentional but some people are taking it badly. Tim Ryan is a pretty good guy as has been said.
The ISSUE he actually raised is REAL. It's hard as hell to see the ball on Lamar Jackson. Just watch the games. I have no idea where it is when he does those fake hand offs or if he pulls the ball back. I think it is a REAL issue which has more to do with the Ravens uniforms than skin tone. But I don't see how you can watch the Ravens games and say it's not true. I have absolutely no idea where the ball is on Lamar Jackson when I watch the games. I'm struck by that for sure. On the 49ers red uniform I can always see the ball. I can't see it on the Ravens home jerseys well. I actually think it gives them somewhat of an advantage.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Dec 4, 2019 at 7:50 PM ]
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:47 PM
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I thought this was about Tim Ryan?
Just thinking, HMMMMMM. What Can I say that is totally crazy and sure to get me fired?
Just thinking, HMMMMMM. What Can I say that is totally crazy and sure to get me fired?
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:49 PM
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Originally posted by Kyzen:
Kap is half WHITE, no where near the same skin tone as a true AA man. Kap also has always had the distinct challenge of his "white priviledge" to over come as well.
Never compare a real black man to a half white, oppressed suburb kid that had to over come the brutal life and death game of trying to survive the deadly streets of Wisconsin growing up just for the opportunity to get a free college education on the way to $140 million dollar contract........it's just not the same thing.
Says the guy
Originally posted by Kyzen:
if the cawks win and we beat the saints, wouldnt we be the #2 seed?+
get yo trolling ass out of here
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:50 PM
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As for what Tim Ryan has said, I don't find anything wrong or malicious there.
There has been a ridiculous and gross overreaction by some to what was merely a factual observation.
Some folks out there have a divisive agenda that has unfortunately and sadly been all too successful.
There has been a ridiculous and gross overreaction by some to what was merely a factual observation.
Some folks out there have a divisive agenda that has unfortunately and sadly been all too successful.
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:51 PM
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Originally posted by Afrikan:Originally posted by Kyzen:Kap is half WHITE, no where near the same skin tone as a true AA man. Kap also has always had the distinct challenge of his "white priviledge" to over come as well.
Never compare a real black man to a half white, oppressed suburb kid that had to over come the brutal life and death game of trying to survive the deadly streets of Wisconsin growing up just for the opportunity to get a free college education on the way to $140 million dollar contract........it's just not the same thing.
Says the guy
Originally posted by Kyzen:
if the cawks win and we beat the saints, wouldnt we be the #2 seed?+
get yo trolling ass out of here
What does either post have to do with the other? Troll? lmfao, you OBVIOUSLY haven't seen my posts here.
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:55 PM
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Also why just "suspend" him? If you think he is a racist today then he will also be one tomorrow and the next day. Unless they have a re-education camp he can go to so he can learn not to be a racist just fire his ass and ruin his life for good. Why wait?
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:56 PM
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49ers to unveil new unis. 11 guys with footballs, the defense won't know who to tackle.
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:56 PM
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Let's be careful to keep this about football and Ryan's comment, not individual posters.
Just saying...
Thank you.
Just saying...
Thank you.
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:58 PM
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Originally posted by Kyzen:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by Kyzen:
Kap is half WHITE, no where near the same skin tone as a true AA man. Kap also has always had the distinct challenge of his "white priviledge" to over come as well.
Never compare a real black man to a half white, oppressed suburb kid that had to over come the brutal life and death game of trying to survive the deadly streets of Wisconsin growing up just for the opportunity to get a free college education on the way to $140 million dollar contract........it's just not the same thing.
Says the guy
Originally posted by Kyzen:
if the cawks win and we beat the saints, wouldnt we be the #2 seed?+
get yo trolling ass out of here
What does either post have to do with the other? Troll? lmfao, you OBVIOUSLY haven't seen my posts here.
"Never compare a real black man to a half white"
and in this thread we have already proved this wrong...
"Kap is half WHITE, no where near the same skin tone as a true AA man."
again get yo trolling ass out of here.
Dec 4, 2019 at 8:02 PM
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Originally posted by Afrikan:"Never compare a real black man to a half white"
and in this thread we have already proved this wrong...
"Kap is half WHITE, no where near the same skin tone as a true AA man."
again get yo trolling ass out of here.
Are you saying Kap is not half white?
Are you saying that a real AA man doesn't come from a AA mother and AA father?
Are you saying that a half white half AA man has the same skin tone as a non mixed AA man?
seious questions.
[ Edited by Kyzen on Dec 4, 2019 at 8:02 PM ]
Dec 4, 2019 at 8:02 PM
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Originally posted by Kyzen:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
"Never compare a real black man to a half white"
and in this thread we have already proved this wrong...
"Kap is half WHITE, no where near the same skin tone as a true AA man."
again get yo trolling ass out of here.
Are you saying Kap is not half white?
Are you saying that a real AA man doesn't come from a AA mother and AA father?
Are you saying that a half white half AA man has the same skin tone as a non mixed AA man?
seious questions.
There's a Kap thread somewhere else on this forum. Please take this convo there.