SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs ATLANTA FALCONS - 2019 Game 14

From the other thread:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

If we lose to the rams and they win against the Cardinals do we still get the #1 seed if we beat Seattle?

At that point, I don't think so. Unless the Packers/Saints each lose one.

Ok let me reword that, do we overtake Seattle on the seeding?

No. We have to WIN both games in order to top them.

Originally posted by mayo49:

LA got hammered today - I'm not overly concerned about playing them.

With the way the Niners played today, I don't think we should overlook anyone at this moment.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

That was so costly. #1 seed, home field advantage, playoff bye to #5 seed.

Barely anything changed. We went into the game needing to beat Seattle to win the division and we left the game needing to beat Seattle to win the division.

Exactly this. Terrible loss, but people are over reacting. Still control our own destiny

Like people are saying, we could have won today or lost today. Doesn't matter. We still would need to win in Seattle to take the #1 seed. Now we can't lose to the Rams, but all is not lost. Sherman should be coming back and we came out of this game without any new injuries to speak of.

Losing Richburg seems to have destabilized our offensive line. Jimmy didn't have much time and there were quite a few unblocked rushers throughout the game. He was also holding the ball longer than usual, which tells me that Atlanta was doing a good job on pass coverage.

What also disturbs me is that Atlanta went into max protect mode, where they had 8 people blocking on our four rushers. We didn't have an answer for that. No way are you getting to the QB with a fortress around him. So they basically expected some receiver to come open eventually, which they did.

Sherman is the ideal corner to play on Julio, given their physical style of play. Not having him today was very unfortunate. Losing Kwaun was also a big deal. Harris has some good defensed plays, and wasn't as lost as he was last week.

We'll come back from this tough loss not quite as hyped up on ourselves and get back to the disrespected underdog that we should be going into he playoffs.

Originally posted by mayo49:
LA got hammered today - I'm not overly concerned about playing them.

That's true but not many were concerned about the Falcons before the game.

Originally posted by DrEll:

No. We have to WIN both games in order to top them.

No. Here's the tie breakers in this scenario (49ers 11-4, Sea 12-3 going into W17).

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). 49ers and Seahawks TIED 1-1, move to 2
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. 49ers and Seahawks TIED 4-2, move to 3
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. 49ers and Seahawks TIED 10-4, move to 4
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. 49ers and Seahawks TIED 9-3, move to 5
5. Strength of victory. W-L-T % of all opponents a team has defeated. 49ers and Seahawks beat the same teams, except 49ers beat GB, NO and WAS and the Seahawks beat PHI, MIN and ATL. The Win-Loss record between these two sets of teams is the tiebreaker
6. Strength of schedule. IRRELEVANT, see above (assuming that GB, NO and Washington combined don't have the same record as Philly, Minn and ATL combined, in which case strength of schedule comes into play).
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

Tie breaker would be strength of victory. If NO-GB-WAS end up with a better win % than MIN-PHI-ATL, SF wins tie breaker in this scenario.

Right now NO-GB-WAS is 24-17 with 7 games left, while MIN-PHI-ATL is 22-20 with 6 games left.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by mayo49:

I don't know if Jimmy wasn't seeing the field well or what, but our passing game was crap today with the exception of Kittle. We better spend that first pick on a WR1 that can get open.

Sorry but we're in dire need of a competent interior olineman.

It wasn't that he wasn't seeing the field..it was Shanahan's gameplan force feeding him all game long. Also they weren't protecting him long enough for them to get open downfield.

Originally posted by zeppfan1:
The '88 Championship Niners lost to the Raiders and Cardinals back to back and still won the Super Bowl. These kind of games happen.

As annoyed and frustrated I am with the loss to ATL today, I mentioned the exact same thing a couple of weeks ago. Every one of my beloved dynasty Niner teams got rolled by a 1-2 crap teams each year that they won the SB so It happens. That said, I still don't think the Niners win in Seattle.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

That was so costly. #1 seed, home field advantage, playoff bye to #5 seed.

If we beat the Rams (big if I know) and the Seahawks beat the Cardinals, it will be like this loss never happened. Still would come down to Week 17 either way.

This loss means nothing unless somehow the Cards beat the Seahawks at home.

Nothing changed based on this loss, at all.

Nothing changed in terms of us being the number one seed if we win out. However, had we beaten Atl and LA next week...and the Seahawks had lost somehow to Zona, we would have had the number one seed locked up before even playing them.

Yea but Seattle isn't losing at home to the Cards.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

I sure hope last weekend wasn't our superbowl.

Could have been. Permanently being down four starters (Richburg, Blair, Jones, Alexander) may be enough to not make it through the NFC this year.

I think the Jones and Alexander losses are huge impacts. The D took a hit with those injuries and the offense was expected to help the defense out by scoring at will. The offense has shown glimpses but when it mattered most today... not much and that's a big concern.

Originally posted by captveg:

No. Here's the tie breakers in this scenario (49ers 11-4, Sea 12-3 going into W17).

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). 49ers and Seahawks TIED 1-1, move to 2
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. 49ers and Seahawks TIED 4-2, move to 3
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. 49ers and Seahawks TIED 10-4, move to 4
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. 49ers and Seahawks TIED 9-3, move to 5
5. Strength of victory. W-L-T % of all opponents a team has defeated. 49ers and Seahawks beat the same teams, except 49ers beat GB, NO and WAS and the Seahawks beat PHI, MIN and ATL. The Win-Loss record between these two sets of teams is the tiebreaker
6. Strength of schedule. IRRELEVANT, see above (assuming that GB, NO and Washington combined don't have the same record as Philly, Minn and ATL combined, in which case strength of schedule comes into play).
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

Tie breaker would be strength of victory. If NO-GB-WAS end up with a better win % than MIN-PHI-ATL, SF wins tie breaker in this scenario.

Right now NO-GB-WAS is 24-17 with 7 games left, while MIN-PHI-ATL is 22-20 with 6 games left.

So we most likely got it. As of now our combo has 24 wins with NO still to play while Seattle's has 22 wins.

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

That was so costly. #1 seed, home field advantage, playoff bye to #5 seed.

If we beat the Rams (big if I know) and the Seahawks beat the Cardinals, it will be like this loss never happened. Still would come down to Week 17 either way.

This loss means nothing unless somehow the Cards beat the Seahawks at home.

Nothing changed based on this loss, at all.

Nothing changed in terms of us being the number one seed if we win out. However, had we beaten Atl and LA next week...and the Seahawks had lost somehow to Zona, we would have had the number one seed locked up before even playing them.

Yea but Seattle isn't losing at home to the Cards.

That's definitely not happening.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by captveg:

No. Here's the tie breakers in this scenario (49ers 11-4, Sea 12-3 going into W17).

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). 49ers and Seahawks TIED 1-1, move to 2
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. 49ers and Seahawks TIED 4-2, move to 3
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. 49ers and Seahawks TIED 10-4, move to 4
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. 49ers and Seahawks TIED 9-3, move to 5
5. Strength of victory. W-L-T % of all opponents a team has defeated. 49ers and Seahawks beat the same teams, except 49ers beat GB, NO and WAS and the Seahawks beat PHI, MIN and ATL. The Win-Loss record between these two sets of teams is the tiebreaker
6. Strength of schedule. IRRELEVANT, see above (assuming that GB, NO and Washington combined don't have the same record as Philly, Minn and ATL combined, in which case strength of schedule comes into play).
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

Tie breaker would be strength of victory. If NO-GB-WAS end up with a better win % than MIN-PHI-ATL, SF wins tie breaker in this scenario.

Right now NO-GB-WAS is 24-17 with 7 games left, while MIN-PHI-ATL is 22-20 with 6 games left.

So we most likely got it. As of now our combo has 24 wins with NO still to play while Seattle's has 22 wins.

That is assuming we win out

Just win on Saturday and then everyone will see how this loss means nothing.

It sucks to lose but it was always going to come down to week 17 @ Seattle.

We had no major injuries in this game. That was actually more important than winning if you ask me.