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SF 49ERS vs LA RAMS Pregame Thread - 2019 Season Week 16

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SF 49ERS vs LA RAMS Pregame Thread - 2019 Season Week 16

Dec 18, 2019 at 8:36 AM
Originally posted by asu49ers:
Originally posted by Uheardithearfirst:
6.5 point underdogs at home? Guessing that is going to drop by game.

underdogs? We are favored by 6.5 pts

Right. I'm thinking it might hit seven by game time but you never know. I just got done watching the Rams Cowboys game and oh my dear sweet God the lambs looked horrible. The defense looked like moldy Swiss cheese On sopping wet wonder bread while Goff Goff couldn't hit water if he fell out of his tiny dingy. Meanwhile Shanny and the Niners got a huge wake up call and they're going to be pissed and hyper focused for the next two games. We will win out
Dec 18, 2019 at 8:39 AM
hypothetical, obviously...

but if we lose, the hawks win, then week 17 doesn't matter. whatsoever. we're the 5th seed. no matter what. (right?)

does that mean we rest starters week 17 and create our own 'bye' essentially? I mean, you have to think the coaching staff considers that.
[ Edited by SkyZer0 on Dec 18, 2019 at 8:40 AM ]
Dec 18, 2019 at 8:53 AM
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
hypothetical, obviously...

but if we lose, the hawks win, then week 17 doesn't matter. whatsoever. we're the 5th seed. no matter what. (right?)

does that mean we rest starters week 17 and create our own 'bye' essentially? I mean, you have to think the coaching staff considers that.

I don't know if your first premise is correct. If we lose this week and win against SEA, both teams would be 12-4, both would have won head to heads, both teams would be 4-2 in the division and have the same conference record. It would come down to the final records of WAS, GB, MIN, and PHI. Those are the only unshared games.
Dec 18, 2019 at 8:53 AM
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
hypothetical, obviously...

but if we lose, the hawks win, then week 17 doesn't matter. whatsoever. we're the 5th seed. no matter what. (right?)

does that mean we rest starters week 17 and create our own 'bye' essentially? I mean, you have to think the coaching staff considers that.

No it was outlined that as long as we win Week 17, we should still win the tiebreakers, provided the teams we beat don't suddenly lose all their remaining games to make our strength-of-victory weaker.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Dec 18, 2019 at 8:54 AM ]
Dec 18, 2019 at 8:56 AM
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
hypothetical, obviously...

but if we lose, the hawks win, then week 17 doesn't matter. whatsoever. we're the 5th seed. no matter what. (right?)

does that mean we rest starters week 17 and create our own 'bye' essentially? I mean, you have to think the coaching staff considers that.

No it was outlined that as long as we win Week 17, we should still win the tiebreakers, provided the teams we beat don't suddenly lose all their remaining games to make our strength-of-victory weaker.


Originally posted by NinerBuff:
I don't know if your first premise is correct. If we lose this week and win against SEA, both teams would be 12-4, both would have won head to heads, both teams would be 4-2 in the division and have the same conference record. It would come down to the final records of WAS, GB, MIN, and PHI. Those are the only unshared games.

so even if we lose to the Rams........ and the Hawks beat the cards......... it still all comes down to week 17...us vs. the hawks to decide it all.
Dec 18, 2019 at 8:57 AM
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
hypothetical, obviously...

but if we lose, the hawks win, then week 17 doesn't matter. whatsoever. we're the 5th seed. no matter what. (right?)

does that mean we rest starters week 17 and create our own 'bye' essentially? I mean, you have to think the coaching staff considers that.

No it was outlined that as long as we win Week 17, we should still win the tiebreakers, provided the teams we beat don't suddenly lose all their remaining games to make our strength-of-victory weaker.


Originally posted by NinerBuff:
I don't know if your first premise is correct. If we lose this week and win against SEA, both teams would be 12-4, both would have won head to heads, both teams would be 4-2 in the division and have the same conference record. It would come down to the final records of WAS, GB, MIN, and PHI. Those are the only unshared games.

so even if we lose to the Rams........ and the Hawks beat the cards......... it still all comes down to week 17...us vs. the hawks to decide it all.

Depends on WAS, GB, MIN, and PHI. If WAS and GB win their respective games and/or MIN and PHI lose theirs, then yes, it all comes down to the final game.
Dec 18, 2019 at 9:00 AM
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
hypothetical, obviously...

but if we lose, the hawks win, then week 17 doesn't matter. whatsoever. we're the 5th seed. no matter what. (right?)

does that mean we rest starters week 17 and create our own 'bye' essentially? I mean, you have to think the coaching staff considers that.

No it was outlined that as long as we win Week 17, we should still win the tiebreakers, provided the teams we beat don't suddenly lose all their remaining games to make our strength-of-victory weaker.

That's the problem with relying on someone else. Chit happens.

We win the next two and we get teh bye week and top seed in the NFC.

Let's do that and not worry about other people's scoreboards.

Just worry about ours and hope we have more points on the board than the other team at the end of the game.
Dec 18, 2019 at 9:01 AM
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
hypothetical, obviously...

but if we lose, the hawks win, then week 17 doesn't matter. whatsoever. we're the 5th seed. no matter what. (right?)

does that mean we rest starters week 17 and create our own 'bye' essentially? I mean, you have to think the coaching staff considers that.

No it was outlined that as long as we win Week 17, we should still win the tiebreakers, provided the teams we beat don't suddenly lose all their remaining games to make our strength-of-victory weaker.


Originally posted by NinerBuff:
I don't know if your first premise is correct. If we lose this week and win against SEA, both teams would be 12-4, both would have won head to heads, both teams would be 4-2 in the division and have the same conference record. It would come down to the final records of WAS, GB, MIN, and PHI. Those are the only unshared games.

so even if we lose to the Rams........ and the Hawks beat the cards......... it still all comes down to week 17...us vs. the hawks to decide it all.

Depends on WAS, GB, MIN, and PHI. If WAS and GB win their respective games and/or MIN and PHI lose theirs, then yes, it all comes down to the final game.

so basically if we lose to the Rams it becomes pretty f**king complicated after that. even though a glimmer of hope still remains. however, none of that s**t matters if the 49ers just WIN out no matter what.
Dec 18, 2019 at 9:02 AM
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
hypothetical, obviously...

but if we lose, the hawks win, then week 17 doesn't matter. whatsoever. we're the 5th seed. no matter what. (right?)

does that mean we rest starters week 17 and create our own 'bye' essentially? I mean, you have to think the coaching staff considers that.

No it was outlined that as long as we win Week 17, we should still win the tiebreakers, provided the teams we beat don't suddenly lose all their remaining games to make our strength-of-victory weaker.


Originally posted by NinerBuff:
I don't know if your first premise is correct. If we lose this week and win against SEA, both teams would be 12-4, both would have won head to heads, both teams would be 4-2 in the division and have the same conference record. It would come down to the final records of WAS, GB, MIN, and PHI. Those are the only unshared games.

so even if we lose to the Rams........ and the Hawks beat the cards......... it still all comes down to week 17...us vs. the hawks to decide it all.

Depends on WAS, GB, MIN, and PHI. If WAS and GB win their respective games and/or MIN and PHI lose theirs, then yes, it all comes down to the final game.

No, if we lose to Rams and Hawks beat Cards we are locked into the 5th seed. If we win at Seattle they win the division if we both end at 12-4 because we would have the tie break according to the ESPN playoff generator.

If we lose this weekend I vote for us to give our self a bye Week 17. Rest everyone for Wild Card weekend at the @4 seed.
[ Edited by global_nomad on Dec 18, 2019 at 9:05 AM ]
Dec 18, 2019 at 9:02 AM
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
so basically if we lose to the Rams it becomes pretty f**king complicated after that. even though a glimmer of hope still remains. however, none of that s**t matters if the 49ers just WIN out no matter what.

correct
Dec 18, 2019 at 9:03 AM
Just win baby!!
Dec 18, 2019 at 9:04 AM
Originally posted by global_nomad:
No, if we lose to Rams and Hawks beat Cards we are locked into the 5th seed. If we win at Seattle they win the division if we both end at 12-4 because we would have 3 divisional loses and they would have only 2.

If we lose this weekend I vote for us to give our self a bye Week 17. Rest everyone for Wild Card weekend at the @4 seed.

In this scenario, we would have lost to LAR and SEA in division and beat ARI x2, SEA, and LAR ... 4-2, just like SEA.
Dec 18, 2019 at 9:04 AM
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Depends on WAS, GB, MIN, and PHI. If WAS and GB win their respective games and/or MIN and PHI lose theirs, then yes, it all comes down to the final game.

This is accurate the way I read it but all mute point.Sf will beat La handily. No fear
Dec 18, 2019 at 9:06 AM
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
hypothetical, obviously...

but if we lose, the hawks win, then week 17 doesn't matter. whatsoever. we're the 5th seed. no matter what. (right?)

does that mean we rest starters week 17 and create our own 'bye' essentially? I mean, you have to think the coaching staff considers that.

No it was outlined that as long as we win Week 17, we should still win the tiebreakers, provided the teams we beat don't suddenly lose all their remaining games to make our strength-of-victory weaker.


Originally posted by NinerBuff:
I don't know if your first premise is correct. If we lose this week and win against SEA, both teams would be 12-4, both would have won head to heads, both teams would be 4-2 in the division and have the same conference record. It would come down to the final records of WAS, GB, MIN, and PHI. Those are the only unshared games.

so even if we lose to the Rams........ and the Hawks beat the cards......... it still all comes down to week 17...us vs. the hawks to decide it all.

Depends on WAS, GB, MIN, and PHI. If WAS and GB win their respective games and/or MIN and PHI lose theirs, then yes, it all comes down to the final game.

No, if we lose to Rams and Hawks beat Cards we are locked into the 5th seed. If we win at Seattle they win the division if we both end at 12-4 because we would have 3 divisional loses and they would have only 2.

If we lose this weekend I vote for us to give our self a bye Week 17. Rest everyone for Wild Card weekend at the @4 seed.

If we lose to the Rams and the Hawks beat the Cards but lose to us, it still comes down to tiebreakers, because both our conference and division records would be tied.

Ideally, we win both games and get the #1 seed. That's all I want right now. At minimum I want the playoffs to be at home.
Dec 18, 2019 at 9:08 AM
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
No, if we lose to Rams and Hawks beat Cards we are locked into the 5th seed. If we win at Seattle they win the division if we both end at 12-4 because we would have 3 divisional loses and they would have only 2.

If we lose this weekend I vote for us to give our self a bye Week 17. Rest everyone for Wild Card weekend at the @4 seed.

In this scenario, we would have lost to LAR and SEA in division and beat ARI x2, SEA, and LAR ... 4-2, just like SEA.

I guess what I mean is if we lose against Rams the only thing a win would do at Seattle all it would do would be take the #1 seed away from them, we would stay at 5 seed at 12-4.

Check it out: http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine/_/factor/wins/results/401127900~2~401128040~1
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