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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
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How could anyone hate young lol

Seriously. Young is my all time favorite player EVER. Unbelievable talent, heart, and determination. Loved watching him play.

And still not even close to Joe. Plus he fu**ked up in too many playoff games. Period. Take away 94 and he is just a regular season maestro with no clutch in him when it really counts.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by cciowa:
montana would have won those games vs the cowboys. he never s**t down his leg in big games. bono. in our system on our team would have thrived in my opinion. aside from joe the guys we had to went to kc did nothing. you are wrong about lott. he proved he could still play and we lost a huge leader which does not show up in quik stats, terrible mistake. we lost the 90 game because we kept craig to long

Montana was old at that point, and Dallas was in dynasty mode. You cant just assume he would've beaten them. Young threw for 600 yds with 2 passing and 2 rushing TD's in those games. The Cowboys were just better.

Lott had one good year after he left SF.

Craig might have fumbled in 1990, but we lost a home title game on 5 field goals. We didn't allow a TD and still lost. Thats on everyone.

Way to leave out Young's TWO fu**ing INTs in 1992 and one INT in 1993 against Dallas in the playoffs. Those were fu**ing costly and he did the same sh** against Favre's Packers. Biased much? Without 1994 Young is a complete failure. Glad he was able to get it done once so he can still be fondly remembered.

Only one year did he come through for us. Montana came through four times and would not have thrown those picks against Dallas. We win two of those three games vs the Cowboys even with an aging Montana.

I'm a fan of Young but would never buy his jersey because of too many eff ups in the playoffs...just a huge tease in the regular season being all world only to not come up big when it counted save for one year.
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by cciowa:
montana would have won those games vs the cowboys. he never s**t down his leg in big games. bono. in our system on our team would have thrived in my opinion. aside from joe the guys we had to went to kc did nothing. you are wrong about lott. he proved he could still play and we lost a huge leader which does not show up in quik stats, terrible mistake. we lost the 90 game because we kept craig to long

Montana was old at that point, and Dallas was in dynasty mode. You cant just assume he would've beaten them. Young threw for 600 yds with 2 passing and 2 rushing TD's in those games. The Cowboys were just better.

Lott had one good year after he left SF.

Craig might have fumbled in 1990, but we lost a home title game on 5 field goals. We didn't allow a TD and still lost. Thats on everyone.

Way to leave out Young's TWO fu**ing INTs in 1992 and one INT in 1993 against Dallas in the playoffs. Those were fu**ing costly and he did the same sh** against Favre's Packers. Biased much? Without 1994 Young is a complete failure. Glad he was able to get it done once so he can still be fondly remembered.

Only one year did he come through for us. Montana came through four times and would not have thrown those picks against Dallas. We win two of those three games vs the Cowboys even with an aging Montana.

I'm a fan of Young but would never buy his jersey because of too many eff ups in the playoffs...just a huge tease in the regular season being all world only to not come up big when it counted save for one year.

That one year was only because we capitalized on 3 Dallas 1st quarter turnovers which helped give us a 17 point lead going into the half.
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Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by cciowa:
montana would have won those games vs the cowboys. he never s**t down his leg in big games. bono. in our system on our team would have thrived in my opinion. aside from joe the guys we had to went to kc did nothing. you are wrong about lott. he proved he could still play and we lost a huge leader which does not show up in quik stats, terrible mistake. we lost the 90 game because we kept craig to long

Montana was old at that point, and Dallas was in dynasty mode. You cant just assume he would've beaten them. Young threw for 600 yds with 2 passing and 2 rushing TD's in those games. The Cowboys were just better.

Lott had one good year after he left SF.

Craig might have fumbled in 1990, but we lost a home title game on 5 field goals. We didn't allow a TD and still lost. Thats on everyone.

Way to leave out Young's TWO fu**ing INTs in 1992 and one INT in 1993 against Dallas in the playoffs. Those were fu**ing costly and he did the same sh** against Favre's Packers. Biased much? Without 1994 Young is a complete failure. Glad he was able to get it done once so he can still be fondly remembered.

Only one year did he come through for us. Montana came through four times and would not have thrown those picks against Dallas. We win two of those three games vs the Cowboys even with an aging Montana.

I'm a fan of Young but would never buy his jersey because of too many eff ups in the playoffs...just a huge tease in the regular season being all world only to not come up big when it counted save for one year.

Not sure about that- He is one of the most accurate passers of all time and one of the pioneers of modern running QB play.

Also to say 'without the 94 season' is ridiculous. Obviously that plays a huge part of his legacy. I hate when people try to make that argument- if you don't count this, this, and this, then he sucks. Its nonsensical to try to manipulate things to fit your argument by removing important facts.
Originally posted by Jaci:
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Originally posted by Niners99:
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Montana was old at that point, and Dallas was in dynasty mode. You cant just assume he would've beaten them. Young threw for 600 yds with 2 passing and 2 rushing TD's in those games. The Cowboys were just better.

Lott had one good year after he left SF.

Craig might have fumbled in 1990, but we lost a home title game on 5 field goals. We didn't allow a TD and still lost. Thats on everyone.

Way to leave out Young's TWO fu**ing INTs in 1992 and one INT in 1993 against Dallas in the playoffs. Those were fu**ing costly and he did the same sh** against Favre's Packers. Biased much? Without 1994 Young is a complete failure. Glad he was able to get it done once so he can still be fondly remembered.

Only one year did he come through for us. Montana came through four times and would not have thrown those picks against Dallas. We win two of those three games vs the Cowboys even with an aging Montana.

I'm a fan of Young but would never buy his jersey because of too many eff ups in the playoffs...just a huge tease in the regular season being all world only to not come up big when it counted save for one year.

Not sure about that- He is one of the most accurate passers of all time and one of the pioneers of modern running QB play.

Also to say 'without the 94 season' is ridiculous. Obviously that plays a huge part of his legacy. I hate when people try to make that argument- if you don't count this, this, and this, then he sucks. Its nonsensical to try to manipulate things to fit your argument by removing important facts.

What it means is that he largely disappointed in the playoffs save for one year...ie he underperformed most of the time in the playoffs and made costly, costly mistakes against the Cowboys and Packers. He needed one more Super Bowl win and my feelings about him would be more positive. Still grateful for getting us an additional SB but still fell short overall.

And I dont care about this one of the most accurate passers of all time and running qb crap. I care about Super Bowls. Period. He needed more of that all time accuracy in the playoffs instead of tbrowing costly picks and turnovers.
I dont blame Young for feeling the way he did when Walsh brought him in. I think it's silly that 49ers fans hate on the guy.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Originally posted by Jaci:
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
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Way to leave out Young's TWO fu**ing INTs in 1992 and one INT in 1993 against Dallas in the playoffs. Those were fu**ing costly and he did the same sh** against Favre's Packers. Biased much? Without 1994 Young is a complete failure. Glad he was able to get it done once so he can still be fondly remembered.

Only one year did he come through for us. Montana came through four times and would not have thrown those picks against Dallas. We win two of those three games vs the Cowboys even with an aging Montana.

I'm a fan of Young but would never buy his jersey because of too many eff ups in the playoffs...just a huge tease in the regular season being all world only to not come up big when it counted save for one year.

Not sure about that- He is one of the most accurate passers of all time and one of the pioneers of modern running QB play.

Also to say 'without the 94 season' is ridiculous. Obviously that plays a huge part of his legacy. I hate when people try to make that argument- if you don't count this, this, and this, then he sucks. Its nonsensical to try to manipulate things to fit your argument by removing important facts.

What it means is that he largely disappointed in the playoffs save for one year...ie he underperformed most of the time in the playoffs and made costly, costly mistakes against the Cowboys and Packers. He needed one more Super Bowl win and my feelings about him would be more positive. Still grateful for getting us an additional SB but still fell short overall.

And I dont care about this one of the most accurate passers of all time and running qb crap. I care about Super Bowls. Period. He needed more of that all time accuracy in the playoffs instead of tbrowing costly picks and turnovers.


What a garbage take

Imagine calling someone choker because they didn't beat the Packers at Lambeau with broken ribs and you being the only running game

Or the defending champion Packers again without Jerry Rice and a broken Garrison Hearst in the pouring rain

Or how about Hearst destroying his leg on the very first play from scrimmage

Unreal

Might as well call Montana a choker for getting wrecked by the Giants in 85 & 86 and absolutely s**tting the bed with arguably the greatest 49ers team of all time against a Vikings team that barely made the playoffs
[ Edited by Aj_hwd954 on Jan 3, 2020 at 4:35 PM ]
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Funny how sh*thawks fans cry about the no P.I call but ignore the bs call against Garland.

Screw Seattle, the TE clearly went in there looking for contact, pushing off trying to draw a flag. HE ABSOLUTELY HAD NO INTENTIONS OF MAKING A PLAY!!!!

F-U Seattle that is karma slapping your face!!!

You both.....are correct, sirs!!!!
How the hell is this thread still alive, after becoming a Montana/Young whiner fest?
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Joe Montana was number 16, Steve Young was number 8. Its obvious that Steve was half the man ;)
I really liked Young but he just kept getting his bell rung. He was smart to get out when he did.
[ Edited by golfish on Jan 3, 2020 at 6:38 PM ]
Originally posted by RabidNiner:
How the hell is this thread still alive, after becoming a Montana/Young whiner fest?

Thank Mayo for saying he hates a legend and calling him a villain
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Thank Mayo for saying he hates a legend and calling him a villain

Anyone who hates on any 49er legend on this site should be banned for life. I'm a Montana guy but a legend is a legend
Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Thank Mayo for saying he hates a legend and calling him a villain

Anyone who hates on any 49er legend on this site should be banned for life. I'm a Montana guy but a legend is a legend

Originally posted by golfish:
Joe Montana was number 16, Steve Young was number 8. Its obvious that Steve was half the man ;)
I really liked Young but he just kept getting his bell rung. He was smart to get out when he did.

yeah joe never got hurt
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