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Jan 22, 2020 at 6:04 PM
- Curlin
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Jan 22, 2020 at 6:20 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49ersFanCJinPA:
That touchdown run he had last game, wouldn't even come close on this defense
That was some of the worse tackling I've seen for awhile.
It's not his running. I don't think he will do that to us. It's his passing with the rocket arm with laser pin point accuracy. Also with accuracy rolling out on the run. That's the problem.
Jan 22, 2020 at 6:29 PM
- Thanos89
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This team for sure, 2012 I was very much 50/50. In 2012 Justin Smith was playing through a torn tricep, and Aldon was playing through a shoulder injury(forget exactly what it was). ALSO we had the Crabtree rape accusations the week before, and Culliver made some sort of derogatory comment about gay people. So the defense was banged up, and we had some off the field issues all at the wrong time. I also was worried we would come out flat like the NFC champ game (which we did).
I feel very confident in this team, everyone is talking about Mahomes and Company. Fine, let them ignore that our defense when healthy like it is now, is dominate at the LOS. Mahomes is going to be in for a rude awaking. KC will score, but they aren't dropping 40 on us, if they are fortunate they might get 30 something.
Nobody is talking about KCs defense vs our offense. How are they going to stop us? Sell out to stop the run (if they even can) and we throw it on them, drop 2 safeties back to help defend the pass and we will just run it on you.
Edit: Also in 2012 David Akers was kicking like dogs**t, Robbie has bounced back into form, so we are better there as well.
Oh and Kyle....miles better as a game planner and play caller.
I feel very confident in this team, everyone is talking about Mahomes and Company. Fine, let them ignore that our defense when healthy like it is now, is dominate at the LOS. Mahomes is going to be in for a rude awaking. KC will score, but they aren't dropping 40 on us, if they are fortunate they might get 30 something.
Nobody is talking about KCs defense vs our offense. How are they going to stop us? Sell out to stop the run (if they even can) and we throw it on them, drop 2 safeties back to help defend the pass and we will just run it on you.
Edit: Also in 2012 David Akers was kicking like dogs**t, Robbie has bounced back into form, so we are better there as well.
Oh and Kyle....miles better as a game planner and play caller.

[ Edited by Thanos89 on Jan 22, 2020 at 6:31 PM ]
Jan 22, 2020 at 6:30 PM
- Mankster
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49ersFanCJinPA:
That touchdown run he had last game, wouldn't even come close on this defense
That was some of the worse tackling I've seen for awhile.
It's not his running. I don't think he will do that to us. It's his passing with the rocket arm with laser pin point accuracy. Also with accuracy rolling out on the run. That's the problem.
Yeah...we say that, but then you look at the numbers. Do we really think our D will go easier on Mahomes than the Titans?
The @Chiefs offensive line's ability to hold up in pass protection was key to Patrick Mahomes' success through the air.
— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) January 19, 2020
Under Pressure: 3/10, 9 yards
No Pressure: 20/25, 285 yards, 3 TD
vs Blitz: 1/5, 7 yards
No Blitz: 22/30, 287 yards, 3 TD#TENvsKC | #ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/PPZYrcSJ3V
[ Edited by Mankster on Jan 22, 2020 at 6:37 PM ]
Jan 22, 2020 at 6:35 PM
- Thanos89
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Originally posted by Mankster:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by Sickaa:Originally posted by 49ersFanCJinPA:That touchdown run he had last game, wouldn't even come close on this defense
That was some of the worse tackling I've seen for awhile.
It's not his running. I don't think he will do that to us. It's his passing with the rocket arm with laser pin point accuracy. Also with accuracy rolling out on the run. That's the problem.
Yeah...we say that, but then you look at the numbers. Do we really think our D will go easier on Mahomes than the Titans?
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The Titans were clearly thinking if they dropped 7 and 8 into coverage that Mahomes would get impatient and throw up some YOLO passes. They were wrong big time. Like any QB, you must get pressure on him, and in this case contain in the pocket of possible. Mahomes is like Wilson lite when it comes to backyard football style throws....he's amazing at them.
Jan 22, 2020 at 6:38 PM
- Mankster
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Think you're absolutely right. Ain't saying he'll fold under pressure, but it sure doesn't do him any favors!
Jan 22, 2020 at 6:43 PM
- 49ersFanCJinPA
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Originally posted by Thanos89:Originally posted by Mankster:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by Sickaa:Originally posted by 49ersFanCJinPA:That touchdown run he had last game, wouldn't even come close on this defense
That was some of the worse tackling I've seen for awhile.
It's not his running. I don't think he will do that to us. It's his passing with the rocket arm with laser pin point accuracy. Also with accuracy rolling out on the run. That's the problem.
Yeah...we say that, but then you look at the numbers. Do we really think our D will go easier on Mahomes than the Titans?
[tweet https://mobile.twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1219041819276664834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1219041819276664834&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.49erswebzone.com%2Fforum%2Fniners%2F193390-127942-49ers-chiefs-pregame-thread-super-bowl-liv%2Fpage27%2F]
The Titans were clearly thinking if they dropped 7 and 8 into coverage that Mahomes would get impatient and throw up some YOLO passes. They were wrong big time. Like any QB, you must get pressure on him, and in this case contain in the pocket of possible. Mahomes is like Wilson lite when it comes to backyard football style throws....he's amazing at them.
Getting pressure on Mahomes is key, lucky for us that's a strength of this team. Mahomes is a great quarterback and I don't wanna take anything away from him but nobody knows how he'll play under pressure in the big game. The talking heads wanna say this about Jimmy G but the same can be said about Mahomes especially when his head coach doesn't have the best track record in games that matter. I don't think KC is ready for this defense and by the time they start to figure it out might be too late.
Jan 22, 2020 at 6:53 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Vikings game confidence level......
Packers game confidence level......
........Knew there was no way that team would beat us. Bad match up for them.
Mahomes and his KC Chiefs confidence level facing them.......
........
.......Yeah I think we can beat them. But they can beat us too.

Packers game confidence level......

Mahomes and his KC Chiefs confidence level facing them.......


Jan 22, 2020 at 7:04 PM
- DrEll
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I think everyone is making a bit more out of Mahomes than what he really is.
Had NE beaten Miami in the season finale, KC would have been underdogs to both NE and Baltimore in the playoffs. They were getting routes by Houston AT HOME before the head coach lost his marbles. And they were losing double digits to Tenn AT HOME before adjusting.
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Had NE beaten Miami in the season finale, KC would have been underdogs to both NE and Baltimore in the playoffs. They were getting routes by Houston AT HOME before the head coach lost his marbles. And they were losing double digits to Tenn AT HOME before adjusting.
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Jan 22, 2020 at 7:07 PM
- 49ersFanCJinPA
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Originally posted by DrEll:I think everyone is making a bit more out of Mahomes than what he really is.
Had NE beaten Miami in the season finale, KC would have been underdogs to both NE and Baltimore in the playoffs. They were getting routes by Houston AT HOME before the head coach lost his marbles. And they were losing double digits to Tenn AT HOME before adjusting.
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Jan 22, 2020 at 8:34 PM
- Sickaa
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Originally posted by DrEll:I think everyone is making a bit more out of Mahomes than what he really is.
Had NE beaten Miami in the season finale, KC would have been underdogs to both NE and Baltimore in the playoffs. They were getting routes by Houston AT HOME before the head coach lost his marbles. And they were losing double digits to Tenn AT HOME before adjusting.
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Agreed. It was a combination of titans and the Texans s**ting the bed more than the chiefs actually being too good for them both. Poor defensive and offensive game plans in the second half causing em both to self destruct.
[ Edited by Sickaa on Jan 22, 2020 at 8:54 PM ]
Jan 22, 2020 at 8:46 PM
- Jaci
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What is really interesting about this is that for this Superbowl, it seems a total role reversal from 2012.
The chiefs remind me more of the niners then, everyone hopped up on the new exciting qb, ignoring issues on d (ours were injury related in 2012 but same blindness there), cocky team. The ravens were much more disciplined amd honestly everyone underestimated flacco. The niners waited til second half to kick into gear in that superbowl. Pretty much the story of KC during the entire playoffs. The niners did it against the Falcons too, in the playoffs, remember?
And everyone is too busy fawning over their comebacks to see the real issue with falling behind like that when you go against a complete team. Not so easy to comeback.
Honestly, the similarities are spooky and this could legit become a total role reversal of the 2012 superbowl.
The chiefs remind me more of the niners then, everyone hopped up on the new exciting qb, ignoring issues on d (ours were injury related in 2012 but same blindness there), cocky team. The ravens were much more disciplined amd honestly everyone underestimated flacco. The niners waited til second half to kick into gear in that superbowl. Pretty much the story of KC during the entire playoffs. The niners did it against the Falcons too, in the playoffs, remember?
And everyone is too busy fawning over their comebacks to see the real issue with falling behind like that when you go against a complete team. Not so easy to comeback.
Honestly, the similarities are spooky and this could legit become a total role reversal of the 2012 superbowl.
[ Edited by Jaci on Jan 22, 2020 at 8:47 PM ]
Jan 22, 2020 at 9:01 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Jaci:
What is really interesting about this is that for this Superbowl, it seems a total role reversal from 2012.
The chiefs remind me more of the niners then, everyone hopped up on the new exciting qb, ignoring issues on d (ours were injury related in 2012 but same blindness there), cocky team. The ravens were much more disciplined amd honestly everyone underestimated flacco. The niners waited til second half to kick into gear in that superbowl. Pretty much the story of KC during the entire playoffs. The niners did it against the Falcons too, in the playoffs, remember?
And everyone is too busy fawning over their comebacks to see the real issue with falling behind like that when you go against a complete team. Not so easy to comeback.
Honestly, the similarities are spooky and this could legit become a total role reversal of the 2012 superbowl.
It won't be as easy to come back on us if they get down. A game like that would play our perfectly for us. A game where we are up and we can just pin our ears back and rush the passer. Plus pound the rock and run the hell out of the ball on offense. That would be the perfect game for the 49ers. The way I hope it unfolds.
Jan 22, 2020 at 10:18 PM
- SFrush
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Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by SFrush:
Ravens. Not even close. If Mahomes heats up I don't have much confidence we'll win.
Every QB can be stopped by applying pressure to them. Mahomes isn't superman lol
Even if you get pressure on him he's capable of getting out of the pocket and making an amazing play.
[ Edited by SFrush on Jan 22, 2020 at 10:18 PM ]
Jan 22, 2020 at 10:46 PM
- 9ersLiferInChicago
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I think this is a backdoor JH/Shanny comparison debate.

Bottom line, there's really no way to compare the two teams as both teams played completely different schemes on both sides of the ball.