Refs definitely had a role in this one

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by BigBossBosa97:
The "let the players play" term is code for "we want more points on the board". Because higher scoring draws more interest. The problem is that it ruins the integrity of the game.

Yep. Rules are there for a reason.

Exactly, and the rules would be enforced evenly and fairly and every play would be reviewable if the NFL wasn't corrupt for the purpose of maximizing revenue. If they enforced the rules fairly and consistently by reviewing every questionable play there's no way refs like Vinavich could influence the game in favor of the NFL's desired winner.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
The Refs letting them play benefited the Chiefs more than the Niners. The Chiefs can't block our front 4 without holding them(especially Bosa who got held all game). I think the Chiefs lead the league in holding penalties but somehow don't get a single holding penalty against the Niners front 4 that was the best on football.

Exactly, one of several glaring facts that prove that the NFL corruption is real.

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:
Yep. It's the world we live in now. I been trying to make the same points. I just couldn't articulate it like you just did. Not "fixed" but swayed. Especially playoffs. We had a chance to overcome the bias. We just couldn't do it.

It actually can help a team mentally. I know that sounds weird but many teams feed off the "us against the world" mindset. In addition, I've played in some leagues knowing full well going in, we'd get screwed on officiating but if you KNOW it going on, you're in a better mindset to let it go and come right back and void it.

I just hope the Niners have figured that out by now. It's almost impossible to believe they haven't. Unfortunately Kyle has to take that in to consideration now every game. It's Just his reality now.

I agree, as atrocious as the SB loss was we can only hope that the bias finally sinks into KS's head to the point where he develops a legit deep passing attack to help blow teams out and negate it most of the time. If he thinks he's just going to run Mostert and dink-n-dunk to Kittle every game next season and have a better chance of winning a comeback SB squeaker he's going to be in for a rude awakening.

Originally posted by swayze:
I don't want to become the damn Saints complaining about every loss like it was someone else's fault. Sure the refs sucked but they didn't make our 4Q play calling s**t. That's on us. We lost. We need to be better.

Yep, agreed. It started with KS's anemic game plan that allowed the Queefs to hang around and the refs to influence the game.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Texans and Titans scored more on that KC defense than we did.

It wasn't the refs, folks...

Exactly, It starts with KS and his glaring failure to get his offensive stars involved early and often which allowed the Chiefs to keep it close and the refs to influence the game. I'm sure Spags was pleasantly shocked the KS couldn't put more than 20 pts on his crap D. Like Tyrann said, they were thrilled when KS stopped running the ball.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by SteveYoung8:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by SteveYoung8:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
I'm still sick to my stomach about the superbowl and don't have any excitement one bit about next season. You can play almost perfect and the NFL/refs can still effect the game. I've lost all love for the NFL. What they let go the last 7 minutes was absolutely atrocious.

Agreed!, I've let it go but I'm not really excited about next season since it's highly unlikely they make it back to the SB and now we have to worry about KS the choke artist choking in big games.....that's his legit reputation now.

Steve, we're still a really good team. Highly ranked and favored to repeat as NFC West champs and go back to the Super Bowl. Cheer up, man - there's lots to look forward to.

Oh yeah, I get it. I'll probably remain neutral at least until the beginning of the regular season.

How many teams have lost a SB and come back to win the next year? Any?

Don't know the exact answer but the point is well taken...not many if any which is why the odds are squarely against the 49ers doing it particularly if KS thinks he's just going to run Mostert and dink-n-dunk up and down the field. A deep passing game needs to be developed for next season or we can forget about the 49ers making it back.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Jimmy G missing Sanders wide open was the game bruh not a missed offsides call.

JG missing Kittle, Sanders quite a few times for wide open, easy first downs was the game. The moment was too big for his inexperience.

Originally posted by 49ersGiantspride:
The fact we have to blame the refs shows just how badly we executed at the end they finished the job and we didn't

First and foremost I'm blaming KS's anemic game plan for keeping KC hanging around so the refs COULD influence the game.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by dolphinsneu:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Yes he is the golden boy and the face of the NFL now with Brady getting older. They will do everything they can to help him and it really shows.

Brady was never the NFL's golden boy. He has been on the wrong of so many bad calls during his career. Most notably in the 2005 game against Denver, the 2006 game against Indy, and the first super bowl against the Giants

Lol What?

yeah, huh?

Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
2012 we got a little jobbed not getting a PI call on the last pass play to Crabtree.

This time... sure there were some bad calls. But mainly, we couldn't stop them when it counted and we couldn't drive down the field when we needed to.

DB, OL and WR were out biggest offseason needs before this game and now we really know they are our top priority.

We couldn't stop them because of the bad calls and NON-calls particularly the egregious sodomizing of Bosa on that 3rd and 5 which would've been a sack for him OR Buckner who were both about to clobber Mahomes. The clip is all over YT of that KC defensive player hanging on to Bosa for dear life during that play.

After a weeks worth of complaints about the officiating I haven't really seen a solution. I don't know how they can ever fix it so everyone is happy with the calls. I see one or two calls in nearly every game that I disagree with and I'm sure most fans do too. They called a loose game and just let the guys play. If they called a tight game there would still be complaints. The final score in last years SB was a result of a bad call that gave NE the win. This year, most of the calls favored KC. I don't know what the answer is because just saying call it fair will never work when you have humans involved. They make or don't make calls on what they think they see. Even replay isn't always clear.

The Chiefs fans are happy and we're pissed. It could just as easily gone the other way. Holding calls have always been an issue whether they call them a lot or don't call them at all. O line coaches teach holding in a way that usually doesn't get called. I think the NFL lets teams get away with more to protect the QBs so maybe we need to teach our guys a little better.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by SteveYoung8:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by SteveYoung8:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:

I'm still sick to my stomach about the superbowl and don't have any excitement one bit about next season. You can play almost perfect and the NFL/refs can still effect the game. I've lost all love for the NFL. What they let go the last 7 minutes was absolutely atrocious.

Agreed!, I've let it go but I'm not really excited about next season since it's highly unlikely they make it back to the SB and now we have to worry about KS the choke artist choking in big games.....that's his legit reputation now.

Steve, we're still a really good team. Highly ranked and favored to repeat as NFC West champs and go back to the Super Bowl. Cheer up, man - there's lots to look forward to.

Oh yeah, I get it. I'll probably remain neutral at least until the beginning of the regular season.

How many teams have lost a SB and come back to win the next year? Any?

New England Patriots lost to Philly then beat LA. Miami Dolphins a loooooong time ago

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
I'm still sick to my stomach about the superbowl and don't have any excitement one bit about next season. You can play almost perfect and the NFL/refs can still effect the game. I've lost all love for the NFL. What they let go the last 7 minutes was absolutely atrocious.

I know what you mean. Pretty much the same way. Hell I turned the game off on the last snap....F**kin BS reffing

Originally posted by Mooseman:
Stop with the refs, It was not their fault that Jimmy G failed to see wide open receivers on several plays. It was not their fault that we lost containment on Mahomes at times. It was not their fault that Kyle could have called a better game. And how about our offensive performance in the 4th Quarter. We had the game won . Could not close it out . Period.

Of course not. I don't think anyone here would deny that statement. But the choices by the refs obviously didn't help and in a tight game - just as we've seen season after season - one or two calls can decide a game. The idea that good teams should be able over come the crap decisions of officials is tired cliche and just isn't realistic in my opinion.

I wouldn't discount the psychological effect that bad calls can have on the moral of a team. These guys may be pros, but they're human too.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
The refs didn't do their jobs end of the day. IF you're gonna "let them play" that's a MASSIVE advantage for KC. They get to hold our dominant DL all game and allow the best QB in football to sling it. That's negating one of the most important things SF does.

It's also a disadvantage to scheme heavy offenses. Holding is the best way to offset an offense that relies on extreme detail and coordination between the quarterback and receiver.

The era of the timing-based offense is a thing of the past thanks to the new rules.