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Originally posted by NCommand:Someone at OTC needs to do a contract analysis per games played or snaps if you really want to get micro for the league.
Thinking of the Ansah signing. How little ROI we've received for so many players over the past 5 years but would love to see where the 49ers rank on that list. Maybe we're right in the middle of the pack?
Originally posted by tohara3:Originally posted by NCommand:Someone at OTC needs to do a contract analysis per games played or snaps if you really want to get micro for the league.
Thinking of the Ansah signing. How little ROI we've received for so many players over the past 5 years but would love to see where the 49ers rank on that list. Maybe we're right in the middle of the pack?
Would be great to see that for sure
I think Kyle has seen the light. pic.twitter.com/ZCjaT0Iy7f
— President Of Zach Wilson Fan Club (@JavierVeg_) November 7, 2020
Chris Simms explains why he believes Jimmy Garoppolo might have played his final game in a 49ers uniformhttps://t.co/CSxBH4SCyq pic.twitter.com/0jQyKXxcsm
— 49ers on NBCS (@NBCS49ers) November 7, 2020
Updated my 2021 Offseason Plan Page, https://t.co/UWtjUBj6Ca, key re-signings(Juice/Sherm/Jones/Trent/K'Waun/Hyder/Verrett/Bourne/Mullens/Moseley/Brunskill) Extended(Warner/Mostert), Redo(Jimmy/AA/Ward/Dee/Richburg) on a $175M cap
— Jason Hurley/49ers 2020 Cap Space=$3,655,856 (@Jay_AB81) November 19, 2020
If the cap is higher, say $198.2M, then just Jimmy & Dee would need to be redone, we could get away with not redoing Dee. They'd need to redo some deal or cut some players to have cap room for our key FAs.
— Jason Hurley/49ers 2020 Cap Space=$3,655,856 (@Jay_AB81) November 19, 2020
Redoing Jimmy/AA/Ward/Richburg/Dee saves $45.488M, cutting all but AA saves $36,076,357, which is a loss of $9,411,643 in cap room, mainly due to not savings anything from cutting/trading AA unless it's a Post June 1 trade.
— Jason Hurley/49ers 2020 Cap Space=$3,655,856 (@Jay_AB81) November 19, 2020
Some terms to by re-signings, Juice($5.25M APY/$10M GTD), Trent($16M APY/$39.95M GTD), K'Waun($8M APY/$12.65M GTD), Sherm($10M APY/$15.35M GTD), Jones($5M APY/$10M GTD), Hyder($3M APY/$3.1M GTD), Verrett($4M APY/$4.2M GTD), Bourne($2.5M APY/$2.95M GTD)
— Jason Hurley/49ers 2020 Cap Space=$3,655,856 (@Jay_AB81) November 19, 2020
Mullens, Moseley would get 2nd-round RFA tenders, Brunskill ERFA tender of $850K. Extensions Warner($18M APY/$39.957M GTD), Mostert($5M APY/$11.375M GTD), future deals, Deebo, Bosa, Hurd, Skule & Dre are eligible after 2021, Kinlaw/Aiyuk/Woerner/McKivitz after 2022.
— Jason Hurley/49ers 2020 Cap Space=$3,655,856 (@Jay_AB81) November 19, 2020
After 2020 besides Warner, we also have James/McGlinchey/Moore/Street also eligible after 2020, McGlinchey's 5th yr option is due by May 2020, Bosa by May 2021, Kinlaw/Aiyuk by May 2022.
— Jason Hurley/49ers 2020 Cap Space=$3,655,856 (@Jay_AB81) November 19, 2020
Terms wise, Bosa should break what his brother got, which was $27M APY, should get at least $30M APY, I can see Deebo in the $10M+, Dre in the $12M+, as for Kinlaw & Aiyuk, way way too early, tough to say on McGlinchey, depends on his play in 2021.
— Jason Hurley/49ers 2020 Cap Space=$3,655,856 (@Jay_AB81) November 19, 2020
Originally posted by NCommand:Good stuff!
My plan and guestimates on APY contracts for our own
Unrestricted Free Agents: [2021 Cap Hit]
LT 71 Trent Williams - Resign to a 3-year, $19.3M deal [$15M]
CB 22 Jason Verrett - Resign to a 2-year, $10.5M deal (Bradley Roby - $10.5M) [$8M]
CB 24 K'Waun Williams - Resign to a 3-year, $8.5M deal (Kenny Moore - $8.325M) [$8M]
DE 92 Kerry Hyder Jr. - Resign to a 2-year, $6M deal [$3M]
FB 44 Kyle Juszcyzk - Resign to a 3-year, $3.5M deal (Derek Watt - $3.25M) [$2M]
NT 93 D.J. Jones - Resign to a 1-year, $2M deal [$2M]
LEO 98 Ronald Blair III - Resign to a 1-year, $1.5M deal [$1.5M]
LB 56 Kiko Alonso - Resign to a 1-year, $1.5M deal [$1.5M]
TE 81 Jordan Reed - Resign to a 2-year, $2M deal [$1M]
LEO — Takkarist McKinley - Resign to a 1-year, $2M deal [$1M]
C 63 Ben Garland - Resign to a 1-year, $2M deal [$1M]
Restricted Free Agents:
CB 41 Emmanuel Moseley - $3.259M (2nd round tender) [$3.259M]
RB 30 Jeff Wilson Jr. - Resign to a 2-year, $2M deal [$1M]
TE 82 Ross Dwelley - Resign to a 2-year, $2M deal [$1M]
SAM/SS 36 Marcell Harris - Resign to a 2-year, $2M deal [$1M]
LS 46 Taybor Pepper - Resign to a 2-year, $2M deal [$1M]
Exclusive Rights Free Agents:
T 60 Daniel Brunskill - $660K [$660K]
Total: [$52M]
Originally posted by NinerGM:52M not bad for the bench players with a couple of exceptions (Williams and Juszcyzk) although I'd go cheaper on Verrett, Jones, and Garland.
Originally posted by Niner4ever:Good stuff!
I'd say DJ Jones might need at least a 2 year deal and possibly Garland as well.
I would move on from Blair III can't keep making millionaires out of guys that can't stay on the field. It sets up a bad precedence from an organization if they pay you just so you can hang out on IR all the time.
I'm on the fence with Alonso since it's thin after Warner and Greenlaw. But, Marcell Harris might be able to fill that 3rd Linebacker spot which is used sparingly. We'll see these last 6 games.
I'm also on the fence about K. Williams. Taylor #47 is looking good in the slot.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Chris Simms. Important.
Chris Simms explains why he believes Jimmy Garoppolo might have played his final game in a 49ers uniformhttps://t.co/CSxBH4SCyq pic.twitter.com/0jQyKXxcsm
— 49ers on NBCS (@NBCS49ers) November 7, 2020
Originally posted by NCommand:Good stuff once again!
Originally posted by NinerGM:
52M not bad for the bench players with a couple of exceptions (Williams and Juszcyzk) although I'd go cheaper on Verrett, Jones, and Garland.
Originally posted by Niner4ever:Thanks. Obviously I didn't include any restructures and key cuts like AB but I was just curious what keeping our own would cost.
Good stuff!
I'd say DJ Jones might need at least a 2 year deal and possibly Garland as well.
I would move on from Blair III can't keep making millionaires out of guys that can't stay on the field. It sets up a bad precedence from an organization if they pay you just so you can hang out on IR all the time.
I'm on the fence with Alonso since it's thin after Warner and Greenlaw. But, Marcell Harris might be able to fill that 3rd Linebacker spot which is used sparingly. We'll see these last 6 games.
I'm also on the fence about K. Williams. Taylor #47 is looking good in the slot.
The lesson I learned...we're not going to buy one outside FA, we're going to cut a ton of cap raping players, expect trades of our own and expect a couple/few restructures.
It won't be a Superbowl team next year but it could have a real shot at making the playoffs IF the core stays healthy. IF.
Originally posted by NCommand:Chris Simms. Important.
Chris Simms explains why he believes Jimmy Garoppolo might have played his final game in a 49ers uniformhttps://t.co/CSxBH4SCyq pic.twitter.com/0jQyKXxcsm
— 49ers on NBCS (@NBCS49ers) November 7, 2020
Originally posted by Niner4ever:Good stuff once again!
I was looking at the Saints and Buccaneers who seemed to be favored in the NFC and they don't concern me if all the guys that are injured were healthy for the most part. A lot of what will happen with the 49ers might be happening league wide in the off- season and next season as well. So while the team doesn't seem like a Super Bowl team at the moment if it lucks out keeping guys healthy and those that can make a difference like Bosa come back and play well it might be in the conversation for one of the best 4- 8 teams. However, it will depend greatly at QB and O- line.
Originally posted by Heroism:Originally posted by NCommand:Chris Simms. Important.
Chris Simms explains why he believes Jimmy Garoppolo might have played his final game in a 49ers uniformhttps://t.co/CSxBH4SCyq pic.twitter.com/0jQyKXxcsm
— 49ers on NBCS (@NBCS49ers) November 7, 2020
Originally posted by NCommand:Thanks. Obviously I didn't include any restructures and key cuts like AB but I was just curious what keeping our own would cost.
The lesson I learned...we're not going to buy one outside FA, we're going to cut a ton of cap raping players, expect trades of our own and expect a couple/few restructures.
It won't be a Superbowl team next year but it could have a real shot at making the playoffs IF the core stays healthy. IF.
