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For your off season plans.

Originally posted by NCommand:
For your off season plans.


That's true, the 49ers offense really got going once Sanders was acquired and the change was noticeable. Depending on the deal I would love it if the team brought him back. With Deebo around and a slew of young and unproven players at WR, it may be ideal to keep a veteran like him out there.

I feel like Armstead could be one of those contract year players who, up until this season, really didn't show a whole lot rushing the passer. It's possible he's improved, or it's possible he's been a beneficiary of a D-line that feature Buckner and added Bosa and Ford this past off-season. He's really good, but given the depth the team has they may have to pursue a tag-and-trade scenario with Armstead if they can swing it.
Originally posted by bzborow1:
That's true, the 49ers offense really got going once Sanders was acquired and the change was noticeable. Depending on the deal I would love it if the team brought him back. With Deebo around and a slew of young and unproven players at WR, it may be ideal to keep a veteran like him out there.

I feel like Armstead could be one of those contract year players who, up until this season, really didn't show a whole lot rushing the passer. It's possible he's improved, or it's possible he's been a beneficiary of a D-line that feature Buckner and added Bosa and Ford this past off-season. He's really good, but given the depth the team has they may have to pursue a tag-and-trade scenario with Armstead if they can swing it.

Lynch has alluded to it too in the past...it's starting to feel like AA is gone either way. With his one contract, you can extend Kittle and Buckner, sign Ward, Sanders, Blair, and a host of others.

Going forward, we can expect to lose 2-3 really good players every year like all playoff teams.
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Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by NCommand:
For your off season plans.


That's true, the 49ers offense really got going once Sanders was acquired and the change was noticeable. Depending on the deal I would love it if the team brought him back. With Deebo around and a slew of young and unproven players at WR, it may be ideal to keep a veteran like him out there.

I feel like Armstead could be one of those contract year players who, up until this season, really didn't show a whole lot rushing the passer. It's possible he's improved, or it's possible he's been a beneficiary of a D-line that feature Buckner and added Bosa and Ford this past off-season. He's really good, but given the depth the team has they may have to pursue a tag-and-trade scenario with Armstead if they can swing it.

Armstead's repertoire of pass rush moves grew to the point that he even beat double teams. He's has more moves than Buckner now.
Originally posted by All22:
Armstead's repertoire of pass rush moves grew to the point that he even beat double teams. He's has more moves than Buckner now.

Agreed. He's worked very hard on it the past two years. And I think everyone is learning from Bosa too.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Lynch has alluded to it too in the past...it's starting to feel like AA is gone either way. With his one contract, you can extend Kittle and Buckner, sign Ward, Sanders, Blair, and a host of others.

Going forward, we can expect to lose 2-3 really good players every year like all playoff teams.

They're probably looking to trade Armstead for a 2020 Day 2 pick or let him walk and take the 3rd/4th round comp pick in 2021. Then hoping Solly/Blair/Jones/Street etc step up into the open spot on the line.
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Lynch has alluded to it too in the past...it's starting to feel like AA is gone either way. With his one contract, you can extend Kittle and Buckner, sign Ward, Sanders, Blair, and a host of others.

Going forward, we can expect to lose 2-3 really good players every year like all playoff teams.

They're probably looking to trade Armstead for a 2020 Day 2 pick or let him walk and take the 3rd/4th round comp pick in 2021. Then hoping Solly/Blair/Jones/Street etc step up into the open spot on the line.

Yeah, this one is tough.

Basically, with his salary, you could extend DeForest Buckner, George Kittle and Kendrick Bourne and resign Ben Garland, Levine Toilolo, Damontre Moore, Ronald Blair III, Emmanuel Sanders & Jimmie Ward.

AA's one big weakness is lateral agility. He really struggles, even in W9, containing QB's and RB's who can get outside him. Bosa shuts those all down. And outside the DE is where teams killed us.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 18, 2020 at 7:41 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, this one is tough.

Basically, with his salary, you could extend DeForest Buckner, George Kittle and Kendrick Bourne and resign Ben Garland, Levine Toilolo, Damontre Moore, Ronald Blair III, Emmanuel Sanders & Jimmie Ward.

AA's one big weakness is lateral agility. He really struggles, even in W9, containing QB's and RB's who can get outside him. Bosa shuts those all down. And outside the DE is where teams killed us.

I wouldnt say "killed".

Agility is a stat with a perceptual component, and that is where arik is weak.

So 17m signs everyone under the sun? I dont think so. Maybe a couple performers and 1 or 2 backups.

Heres the real question: do we keep aa or ford? Damn i love ford but we cant spend 17m for 230 snaps. Just cant do it.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, this one is tough.

Basically, with his salary, you could extend DeForest Buckner, George Kittle and Kendrick Bourne and resign Ben Garland, Levine Toilolo, Damontre Moore, Ronald Blair III, Emmanuel Sanders & Jimmie Ward.

AA's one big weakness is lateral agility. He really struggles, even in W9, containing QB's and RB's who can get outside him. Bosa shuts those all down. And outside the DE is where teams killed us.

I wouldnt say "killed".

Agility is a stat with a perceptual component, and that is where arik is weak.

So 17m signs everyone under the sun? I dont think so. Maybe a couple performers and 1 or 2 backups.

Heres the real question: do we keep aa or ford? Damn i love ford but we cant spend 17m for 230 snaps. Just cant do it.

Yeah, kill was probably too strong of a word. More like Kyler Murray, Goff, Mahomes, Jackson, Wilson, etc. took advantage of that edge at times. That's why in a W9, you typically have ends around 250-260 vs. 6'7" 295.

No, by not resigning AA, his salary will cover a number of those FA's and ensure the team won't have to restructure any more contracts.

In this thread, page 4, post 48, I outline other avenues as well including restructuring Ford.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 18, 2020 at 8:27 AM ]
Draft Or acquire via trade or fa

1. A good zone blocking C/G bc our interior ol allowing pressures has been a problem for so many years

2. A Starting safety that can actually make plays to either replace ward or challenge him for the starting job. If we keep Ward since we have Moore this priority probably drops one spot and corner becomes a more pressing issue.

3. A cb bc Sherman has 2 to 3 years left imo and Moseley is a great number 2 that plays better than some starting ones

4. A wr that has speed and preferably size. If we keep Sanders which I think we will (since we have up a 3rd and 4th got back a fifth) this is not a huge priority. Especially with Hurd and Taylor all but guaranteed a spot.
Originally posted by elguapo:
Draft Or acquire via trade or fa

1. A good zone blocking C/G bc our interior ol allowing pressures has been a problem for so many years

2. A Starting safety that can actually make plays to either replace ward or challenge him for the starting job. If we keep Ward since we have Moore this priority probably drops one spot and corner becomes a more pressing issue.

3. A cb bc Sherman has 2 to 3 years left imo and Moseley is a great number 2 that plays better than some starting ones

4. A wr that has speed and preferably size. If we keep Sanders which I think we will (since we have up a 3rd and 4th got back a fifth) this is not a huge priority. Especially with Hurd and Taylor all but guaranteed a spot.

I like this a lot!
To elguapo's needs.

Team Needs: 

LEO (Speed) - Ronald Blair & Damontre Moore provided identical production when on the field and both should be retained and inexpensive d/t the late season ACL and market. But after Ford, there's no speed rusher at all. Blair/Moore are more tweeners. And speed/burst is crucial to not only the W9 but the back end of this defense.
IOL (C & RG) - Specifically, pass protection. After 3 straight years of I.R., it's safe to assume, one shouldn't count on Richburg. Tomlinson still blows in PP, Richburg can be good 'when's healthy and Person is the perfect backup. Brunskill played well esp. in PP but is he a cornerstone or a very good versatile depth piece?
XWR (Speed) - We all saw how Sanders solidified this passing game and Bourne and Deebo elevated their game upon his arrival. Bourne played a ton from the slot so with Hurd and Taylor back, we should be set at the Slot/F and ZWR. But that still leaves the featured XWR in Kyle's offense. The offense still badly missed the speed factor once Goodwin was done. The bottom line is, we badly need an all-purpose go-to X.
RCB - Similar concept with RG and Brunskill, are Emmanuel Moseley or Ahkello Witherspoon seen as excellent spot-duty players or cornerstones going forward?
FS (Playmaker) - 0 INT's and a combined 10 PD's for Ward + Tartt. The Eraser in this defense needs to not only be the last line of defense but a ball-hawking playmaker.
LT (Future) - Without the protection of extra blockers and scheme, Skule was very poor. He's clearly not the answer for Joe Staley once he retires but he is a cheaper version of Shon Coleman.
TE2 - With health, Jalen Hurd + George Kittle could potentially be the Gronk + Hernandez Garoppolo would love in the passing game. Dwelley is solid.
SWR - Bourne, Taylor and Hurd should have this position locked down. All should get snaps from here esp. on 3rd downs.
ST (Returner) - Mostert, Reed and Pettis were all dynamic returners in college but Hightower prefers safe players such as Taylor and James.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 18, 2020 at 9:39 AM ]
It seems like nearly all the mock drafts have the Niners picking a safety or corner. Delpit and Henderson both pop up a lot. I'd be fine if they go in that direction or WR. Even O line.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It seems like nearly all the mock drafts have the Niners picking a safety or corner. Delpit and Henderson both pop up a lot. I'd be fine if they go in that direction or WR. Even O line.

Same. Delpit seems like the rangy play making FS this team needs. The question is, will he make it to 31?
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