City Council Decides to Terminate 49ers Stadium Contract for NFL Games | Page 4

Feb 14, 2020 at 12:43 PM

CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by mitpdub:
I skimmed through it and someone is reporting a "closed session" decision which a city attorney would probably not authorize. So it's like " a reliable source" quote.

It sounds like Santa Clara is cancelling game day support which I think = traffic control and police services. The City is probably being short changed there and the team needs to come up with their own plan.

If they do that and someone gets injured I can see a major lawsuit. There would be a huge battle to decide whether the city or the Niners were at fault. I would think it would be on the city since they are allowing the game to be played in the stadium they own. Not to mention the public streets.

Feb 14, 2020 at 4:09 PM

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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mayo49:
What exactly does this mean?

Levi's Stadium is owned by the city of Santa Clara, California, but it's managed by the 49ers. The city says the stadium has been mismanaged, and is seeking to take management back.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/13/santa-clara-seeks-to-strip-49ers-of-power-to-manage-their-stadium/

The city, rather than the team, should be making money on and managing non-football events.

Looks like the city wants more than that, even needing city approval if renovations are needed for the stadium. Reminds me of the contentious relationship between the 49ers and San Fran about Candlestick improvements.

From reading the East Bay Times article, it seems that "wage theft" is being classified by the 49ers hiring a crew to do work that wasn't a city-designated crew negotiated at a particular wage. Yeah that union/non-union stuff can get ugly really fast.

Seems fair to me.
Santa Clara owns the stadium, they paid for it. They should have rights to.approve changes to their property.
If upgrades are made to the stadium, Santa Clara will likely be on the hook for the costs of the upgrades.

The 49ers could have privately financed a stadium like the SF Giants and the GS Warriors.

You got no argument from me there man. I agree 100%. If you want to all the benefits, own it.

Yes
The 49ers should buy it from Santa Clara for the remainder of the loan value plus the value of the land and then the 49ers can do what they want with it.

Feb 14, 2020 at 4:20 PM

#48

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Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by mayo49:
What exactly does this mean?

Levi's Stadium is owned by the city of Santa Clara, California, but it's managed by the 49ers. The city says the stadium has been mismanaged, and is seeking to take management back.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/13/santa-clara-seeks-to-strip-49ers-of-power-to-manage-their-stadium/

The city, rather than the team, should be making money on and managing non-football events.

Looks like the city wants more than that, even needing city approval if renovations are needed for the stadium. Reminds me of the contentious relationship between the 49ers and San Fran about Candlestick improvements.

From reading the East Bay Times article, it seems that "wage theft" is being classified by the 49ers hiring a crew to do work that wasn't a city-designated crew negotiated at a particular wage. Yeah that union/non-union stuff can get ugly really fast.

Seems fair to me.
Santa Clara owns the stadium, they paid for it. They should have rights to.approve changes to their property.
If upgrades are made to the stadium, Santa Clara will likely be on the hook for the costs of the upgrades.

The 49ers could have privately financed a stadium like the SF Giants and the GS Warriors.

You got no argument from me there man. I agree 100%. If you want to all the benefits, own it.

Yes
The 49ers should buy it from Santa Clara for the remainder of the loan value plus the value of the land and then the 49ers can do what they want with it.

That makes too much sense.

Feb 14, 2020 at 4:28 PM

#49

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Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by mayo49:
What exactly does this mean?

Levi's Stadium is owned by the city of Santa Clara, California, but it's managed by the 49ers. The city says the stadium has been mismanaged, and is seeking to take management back.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/13/santa-clara-seeks-to-strip-49ers-of-power-to-manage-their-stadium/

The city, rather than the team, should be making money on and managing non-football events.

Looks like the city wants more than that, even needing city approval if renovations are needed for the stadium. Reminds me of the contentious relationship between the 49ers and San Fran about Candlestick improvements.

From reading the East Bay Times article, it seems that "wage theft" is being classified by the 49ers hiring a crew to do work that wasn't a city-designated crew negotiated at a particular wage. Yeah that union/non-union stuff can get ugly really fast.

Seems fair to me.
Santa Clara owns the stadium, they paid for it. They should have rights to.approve changes to their property.
If upgrades are made to the stadium, Santa Clara will likely be on the hook for the costs of the upgrades.

The 49ers could have privately financed a stadium like the SF Giants and the GS Warriors.

You got no argument from me there man. I agree 100%. If you want to all the benefits, own it.

Yes
The 49ers should buy it from Santa Clara for the remainder of the loan value plus the value of the land and then the 49ers can do what they want with it.

That makes too much sense.

LOL its the Yorks they aint spending their $$$ but they'll snatch yours

Feb 14, 2020 at 5:35 PM

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So, you guys are OK with the city signing a contract agreement , that the city wanted, to lure the 9ers to Santa Clara, then backing out of it? Why? The city even voted to do it if I remember correctly. I would just move the team and leave them owning an empty stadium.

Feb 14, 2020 at 5:44 PM

#51

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Wow bro. Such turmoil. I notice this crap when the 49ers are winning.

Feb 14, 2020 at 6:12 PM

#52

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Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This is all because the Santa Clara mayor and the council have a personnel grudge against the Niners. I don't think she was ever in favor of the stadium and there have been numerous disputes over the last 3 years. They better hope the Niners don't get pissed off and move because they'll be left with a big empty stadium and lost revenue.

Move where?

Oakland. I heard Mt. Davis is open for business.

Feb 14, 2020 at 6:15 PM

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Originally posted by mojave45:
So, you guys are OK with the city signing a contract agreement , that the city wanted, to lure the 9ers to Santa Clara, then backing out of it? Why? The city even voted to do it if I remember correctly. I would just move the team and leave them owning an empty stadium.

Yes
It's a crime that the 49ers are being subsidized by small town like Santa Clara. Billion dollar business should be able to build their own facilities rather than work the taxpayers over for handouts.
49ers got this push through by bribing politicians that are no longer around.
If they paid their own way like the San Francisco Giants or the Golden State Warriors, they wouldn't have these headaches.

Feb 14, 2020 at 10:10 PM

#54

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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Yes
It's a crime that the 49ers are being subsidized by small town like Santa Clara. Billion dollar business should be able to build their own facilities rather than work the taxpayers over for handouts.
49ers got this push through by bribing politicians that are no longer around.
If they paid their own way like the San Francisco Giants or the Golden State Warriors, they wouldn't have these headaches.

How you think Jed gonna get some hair plugs for that bolonga patch on his head without taking tax payers money for his new stadium?

[ Edited by Kyzen on Feb 14, 2020 at 10:11 PM ]

Feb 15, 2020 at 12:14 AM

#55

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This sounds like something that the mob would do. Not, saying Jed is a mobster or anything.

Feb 15, 2020 at 1:15 AM

#56

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Originally posted by mojave45:
So, you guys are OK with the city signing a contract agreement , that the city wanted, to lure the 9ers to Santa Clara, then backing out of it? Why? The city even voted to do it if I remember correctly. I would just move the team and leave them owning an empty stadium.

Yes, not sure why the city is getting so much sympathy here.

Feb 15, 2020 at 1:22 AM

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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Yes
It's a crime that the 49ers are being subsidized by small town like Santa Clara. Billion dollar business should be able to build their own facilities rather than work the taxpayers over for handouts.
49ers got this push through by bribing politicians that are no longer around.
If they paid their own way like the San Francisco Giants or the Golden State Warriors, they wouldn't have these headaches.

This is a serious accusation and I can't find any supporting evidence. Please provide your links.

By the way, most teams don't own their own stadiums.

Feb 15, 2020 at 3:31 AM

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What are they doing with that gravel pit that used to be Candlestick Park?

Why don't they Yorks buy the land and build a new Candlestick Park and tell the council to get stuffed.

I know what stadium the fans would rather go to.

Feb 15, 2020 at 3:38 AM

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f**k em. let them keep that empty stadium in santa clara then move back to SF, pay for your own stadium and stop pretending the 49ers wont make enough money to pay for it in a few years. The Stick II

Feb 15, 2020 at 8:36 AM

#60

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Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Yes
It's a crime that the 49ers are being subsidized by small town like Santa Clara. Billion dollar business should be able to build their own facilities rather than work the taxpayers over for handouts.
49ers got this push through by bribing politicians that are no longer around.
If they paid their own way like the San Francisco Giants or the Golden State Warriors, they wouldn't have these headaches.

This is a serious accusation and I can't find any supporting evidence. Please provide your links.

By the way, most teams don't own their own stadiums.

More professional teams in all sports are building their own stadiums because cities can no longer afford the expense. Teams that own their own facility have complete control and the value of the franchise is increased. Look at the Cowboys. That stadium has increased the value of the team immensely.