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All Jimmy G hype aside, what about defense weaknesses?
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Mar 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM
- goldlame2013
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Richard Sherman can get burned deep. And this team can't stop scrambling QBs. What's being done about that?
Mar 5, 2020 at 12:49 PM
- pdizo916
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Fire saleh=GOAT defense.
Mar 5, 2020 at 12:57 PM
- genus49
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The whole we can't stop scrambling QBs is a bit overblown. We were beat up, on a short week vs the Cards. Wilson got lucky our backup players didn't get the job done.
We can definitely use some speed in the secondary but clearly the depth at DL due to injuries hurt us at the end. So did the refs acting like holding wasn't a thing anymore.
When our pass rush is doing their thing our secondary doesn't have to do much...just don't make major brain fart mistakes - 3rd and 15 play.
Obviously if Jimmie Ward leaves in free agency FS becomes a concern.
We can definitely use some speed in the secondary but clearly the depth at DL due to injuries hurt us at the end. So did the refs acting like holding wasn't a thing anymore.
When our pass rush is doing their thing our secondary doesn't have to do much...just don't make major brain fart mistakes - 3rd and 15 play.
Obviously if Jimmie Ward leaves in free agency FS becomes a concern.
Mar 5, 2020 at 1:13 PM
- RonMexico
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deep ball defense when the rush isn't getting home
scrambling QBs
d-line health
scrambling QBs
d-line health
Mar 5, 2020 at 1:34 PM
- walker807
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Originally posted by goldlame2013:Richard Sherman can get burned deep. And this team can't stop scrambling QBs. What's being done about that?
Give our LBs another year together and they may be making mincemeat out of scrambling QBs. They had 5 combined seasons of experience going into the year with Kwon, who missed a lot of the year, making up 4 of those. Experience is an issue for a majority of this team, we really had no business laying waste to the NFC and almost taking home another ring. We should have been one more year out, but I ain't complaining.
Mar 5, 2020 at 1:34 PM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by genus49:
The whole we can't stop scrambling QBs is a bit overblown. We were beat up, on a short week vs the Cards. Wilson got lucky our backup players didn't get the job done.
We can definitely use some speed in the secondary but clearly the depth at DL due to injuries hurt us at the end. So did the refs acting like holding wasn't a thing anymore.
When our pass rush is doing their thing our secondary doesn't have to do much...just don't make major brain fart mistakes - 3rd and 15 play.
Obviously if Jimmie Ward leaves in free agency FS becomes a concern.
I looked at the numbers for the scrambling QBs we faced this year (Wilson, Murray and Jackson) I also looked at Rodgers even though he doesn't move like he used to. We actually did about the same as the rest of the league when it came to defending the mobile QBs. You have to consider that our pass defense was so good that they often had no choice but to run. All defenses have trouble with mobile QBs. That extra dimension is something that's really hard to stop since most of the yards are gained on scrambling and you really can't game plan for that. You take your best shot and if he gets away he's going to gain some yards. That's better than letting him complete a pass to a wide open player downfield.
Mar 5, 2020 at 1:40 PM
- Sickaa
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Originally posted by genus49:The whole we can't stop scrambling QBs is a bit overblown. We were beat up, on a short week vs the Cards. Wilson got lucky our backup players didn't get the job done.
We can definitely use some speed in the secondary but clearly the depth at DL due to injuries hurt us at the end. So did the refs acting like holding wasn't a thing anymore.
When our pass rush is doing their thing our secondary doesn't have to do much...just don't make major brain fart mistakes - 3rd and 15 play.
Obviously if Jimmie Ward leaves in free agency FS becomes a concern.
Solid post.
Mar 5, 2020 at 1:45 PM
- 9moon
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SECONDARY... it has always been our season long weakness
Mar 5, 2020 at 2:00 PM
- walker807
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Originally posted by 9moon:SECONDARY... it has always been our season long weakness
I give the Dline a lot of the credit but we did lead the league in fewest passing yards allowed and an insanely low yards per attempt. If the season stats allowed to opposing QB's combined was a single QB, he would of been one of the worst. Not bad considering who we faced.
Mar 5, 2020 at 2:24 PM
- krizay
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1. Deep safety play.
2. Blitzing and leaving your guys on islands when you're up multiple scores and your front 4 is getting constant pressure already. Knowing your deep safety play SUCKS!
3. Our DEs crashing down the line on play actions/Read options versus scrambling QBs.
2. Blitzing and leaving your guys on islands when you're up multiple scores and your front 4 is getting constant pressure already. Knowing your deep safety play SUCKS!
3. Our DEs crashing down the line on play actions/Read options versus scrambling QBs.
Mar 5, 2020 at 3:00 PM
- Kyzen
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Hip hype hurrrraaaay hooooooe haaaaaayy hoooooooo!!!!!
Mar 5, 2020 at 3:18 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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We need a play making safety.
A solid CB that can be groomed to take over for Sherman when he retires in a year or two.
A ER for depth, especially with Ford likely to miss games again.
Another DT for depth as well.
And for Saleh to do something else than cover 3 99% of the time.
A solid CB that can be groomed to take over for Sherman when he retires in a year or two.
A ER for depth, especially with Ford likely to miss games again.
Another DT for depth as well.
And for Saleh to do something else than cover 3 99% of the time.
[ Edited by TheGore49er on Mar 5, 2020 at 3:18 PM ]
Mar 5, 2020 at 3:20 PM
- krizay
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:We need a play making safety.
A solid CB that can be groomed to take over for Sherman when he retires in a year or two.
A ER for depth, especially with Ford likely to miss games again.
Another DT for depth as well.
And for Saleh to do something else than cover 3 99% of the time.
I think Damontre Moore could be a nice 3rd (DEFINITELY 4th) ER
Mar 5, 2020 at 4:43 PM
- jonnydel
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Originally posted by RonMexico:deep ball defense when the rush isn't getting home
scrambling QBs
d-line health
I think the D-line health is huge. Ford playing in at least 14 games would be nice, not losing Blair, Sheldon Day and Julian Taylor would be key. If Streets doesn't become a wasted pick, that would be nice.
I'm not holding my breath, but maybe Solly has an AA type of awakening. But not looking like it. AA's biggest hurdle was refinement and health.
Mar 5, 2020 at 4:45 PM
- jonnydel
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Originally posted by walker807:Originally posted by 9moon:SECONDARY... it has always been our season long weakness
I give the Dline a lot of the credit but we did lead the league in fewest passing yards allowed and an insanely low yards per attempt. If the season stats allowed to opposing QB's combined was a single QB, he would of been one of the worst. Not bad considering who we faced.
This. There's 4th quarter SB bad taste still.
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