One year ago were you in the Nick Bosa Camp or Quinnen Williams be honest

Bosa hands down. The guy was basically the number one player in the draft one year in advance.
And he was that true star edge rusher we desperaly needed.
That being said at this time last year, I wasn´t against drafting Quinnen at all.
If Arizona took Bosa with the first pick, I would have been more than happy with Williams.
He was the most dominant defensive player in the country that season.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
The debate was never "if Bosa goes at one, who you taking?". Otherwise, it would not have occured in the Bosa thread. There were more than a handful of people who said they would take QW over Bosa, even if Bosa was still there. Some said because Bosa is a trump lover who will ruin the locker room. Some said he will never last longer than half a season due to injury. Some said that he is a selfish prick. Some said his arms were too short. Some said QW is just a flat out better prospect. I was only of Burns biggest fans, and I can't remember anyone saying they'd take Burns at two if Bosa was there. People definitely said they'd rather trade down, pick up an extra first, and grab Burns.

This is exactly what was said

And even still...you guys are pretending as if we had the #1 pick.

I thought the Williams crowd were crazy to be honest

At the time, I wouldn't have minded either, but I thought Edge was by far the greater need. I just kept my fingers crossed that Bosa would stay healthy as a Pro.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

The debate was never "if Bosa goes at one, who you taking?". Otherwise, it would not have occured in the Bosa thread. There were more than a handful of people who said they would take QW over Bosa, even if Bosa was still there. Some said because Bosa is a trump lover who will ruin the locker room. Some said he will never last longer than half a season due to injury. Some said that he is a selfish prick. Some said his arms were too short. Some said QW is just a flat out better prospect. I was only of Burns biggest fans, and I can't remember anyone saying they'd take Burns at two if Bosa was there. People definitely said they'd rather trade down, pick up an extra first, and grab Burns.

This is exactly what was said

And even still...you guys are pretending as if we had the #1 pick.

Lol
Dude your so wrong.
Go read the thread before you make comments like this.
We are saying regardless of having the #2 pick people bashed Bosa and wanted Q..
It's the truth.
Same as the jimmy thread your wrong but still pound the drum.
Keep pounding.

"Phoenix has left the chat"

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Lol
Dude your so wrong.
Go read the thread before you make comments like this.
We are saying regardless of having the #2 pick people bashed Bosa and wanted Q..
It's the truth.
Same as the jimmy thread your wrong but still pound the drum.
Keep pounding.

There were people,...but a link was posted to a 5 page thread as proof of this huge contingency behind Williams. Lol. 5 pages?

There's a lil exaggeration going on,....and a # of people that have confirmed what I said the last couple pages in this thread (the hesitancy to pencil Bosa in as our guy & the celebration once it was clear that Kyler Murray was going to be the 1st pick).

Some people really do operate by the "not counting your chickens b4 they hatch" thing. It may not be your thing, but others live by it come draft time.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Lol
Dude your so wrong.
Go read the thread before you make comments like this.
We are saying regardless of having the #2 pick people bashed Bosa and wanted Q..
It's the truth.
Same as the jimmy thread your wrong but still pound the drum.
Keep pounding.

There were people,...but a link was posted to a 5 page thread as proof of this huge contingency behind Williams. Lol. 5 pages?

There's a lil exaggeration going on,....and a # of people that have confirmed what I said the last couple pages in this thread (the hesitancy to pencil Bosa in as our guy & the celebration once it was clear that Kyler Murray was going to be the 1st pick).

Yea Ok
Read the Bosa draft thread you think your so right. Proof is there.
Keep throwing our statements without going in and even verifying them. Lol
Keep beating your drum dude.
You enjoy your day. Now.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Keep throwing our statements without going in and even verifying them. Lol

huh? 4 consecutive posts in this thread alone....

Originally posted by Livendiea9er:
The second the cards announced they were taking Kyler 100% I threw a BOSA party!!!

Originally posted by MoeJontana84:
yeah soon as I saw Kyler Murray's name on the screen I spammed social media by vague posting "I came"

Originally posted by ninerjok:
Bosa 99.9 %. So basically 100%. As long as AZ was going Murray I wanted NB without question.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
It was Bosa the whole way going back to the 2018 season, I thought no way when ARI got the #1 pick, thank you Kyler for declaring.

Is that going back and verifying what I say? We had no choice but to entertain other scenarios because we weren't #1.

Team Bosa

I was in the Q camp because he just seemed way less risky. Both have elite talent, but the injuries with Nick scared me and we couldn't afford to miss on that pick. I'm just glad that I was wrong and hopefully he puts forth a hof type of long career.

Some of you might not be superstitious, but I'd advise relaxing on acting like this discussion is now completely over after the conclusion of the 2 players rookie season's. Things change too quickly in the NFL to prematurely overreact after one year. I'm hoping that Nick continues his success leading our D, but don't jinx things for him by boasting too much.

Bosa, but I was in the minority when I was ecstatic about beating Seahawks. Supposedly taking us out of the Bosa sweepstakes. I felt it more important to get the win and continue to build the culture than worry about the draft 4 months away. Thankfully, Kyler Murray became a "thing" during the draft process and I got both things wished for

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by random49er:

Pull the receipts. Not going to pull a blind eye to the obvious: We didn't have the 1st pick,...hence,....let's talk about a bunch of other dudes, including QW. Lol people were discussing selecting Brian Burns for God's sakes. No way in hell is he ever brought up in the conversation if we were 1st on the clock.

Us being 2nd, however, even gave his name some burn.

Having Kyler Murray and trading down was in play,...and would've probably been a complete disaster now looking at things because he's a good player.

The "I'm right and your wrong" party you're trying to have loses its effectiveness a little tho, bud, because it wasnt an either/or until we were certain what Zona was going to do. That wasn't until draft day. #WhatReallyHappened

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/192365-one-week-draft-both-available-who-you-taking/

Shame my buddy KL is banned...

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by KamLeon:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Yah because there's no way Williams can end up on IR either right.

I suppose you guys predicted Garroppolo's and McKinnon's injuries too?

Jimmie Ward started 54 games in 4 seasons in college, this dude has been nothing but glass in the NFL, guess you guys predicted that too right? (btw that's 4 full seasons)

Actually, there is in fact quite a few people that questioned JG's ability to stay healthy and Jimmie Ward is one of the main reasons to stay away from injured draftees.

Superman himself could be drafted and it won't matter if he can't play on Sunday's.

If Bosa is the pick, I have no problem betting anyone, anything, that he won't make it through a 16 game schedule injury free without missing games.

Let's revisit this after the draft. I'm sure you'll totally go through with it if you lose of course.

To be fair to him Bosa didn't play 16 games....he played 19

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Lol
Dude your so wrong.
Go read the thread before you make comments like this.
We are saying regardless of having the #2 pick people bashed Bosa and wanted Q..
It's the truth.
Same as the jimmy thread your wrong but still pound the drum.
Keep pounding.

There were people,...but a link was posted to a 5 page thread as proof of this huge contingency behind Williams. Lol. 5 pages?

There's a lil exaggeration going on,....and a # of people that have confirmed what I said the last couple pages in this thread (the hesitancy to pencil Bosa in as our guy & the celebration once it was clear that Kyler Murray was going to be the 1st pick).

Yea Ok
Read the Bosa draft thread you think your so right. Proof is there.
Keep throwing our statements without going in and even verifying them. Lol
Keep beating your drum dude.
You enjoy your day. Now.

Took that dude off ignore temporarily to see his take in this thread...not shocked since he was so quick to bash anyone in the draft threads while never putting his own thoughts out there so they could be brought up later.

Pretty sure he was a trade down guy but wouldn't commit to a single player. Fact that he's being so defensive in this thread should tell you all you need to know about where he stood with Bosa lol.

I wanted Bosa. Not just because he was the best prospect and we needed an edge rusher but because we already had Buck we on the inside. There was no point in getting another DT.