What a cancer he's become. Don't want him on this team any more, but would love to see the team play hardball and make his wallet suffer for acting like a bi-atch.
good riddance
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Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft
Aug 28, 2024 at 5:23 PM
- DrEll
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Aug 28, 2024 at 5:24 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Any player that can change what a defense has to do before the ball is snapped has worth that goes beyond his stats.
Not only does CMC produce.....but he alters defenses. Same with Deebo.
BA is a heck of a player, but I seriously doubt defenses will ever think of letting CMC, Kittle or Deebo run free...because come hell or high-water they have to layer the defense to limit BA.
BA is a good player, but he has not even matched peak Brandon Lloyd yet.
This is an absurd statement. By age 25, Aiyuk was an All Pro. By 25, Brandon Lloyd's best year was 700 yards and 5 TDs. "Peak" Brandon Lloyd was at age 29, so Aiyuk has plenty of time to catch him. He already matched his number of of All Pro seasons in his career.
Sure you can throw caveats at the statement..... but I clearly used the word PEAK.... I did not say anything about age, or snaps, or years in the NFL.
How absurd can it be if it is 100% accurate and truthful as written?
BA wants 30 million a year, and he has not yet matched the high-water mark of Brandon Lloyd... True or False?
Because its a disingenuous comparison. Thats why. And even still, I would argue that Aiyuk's 2023 season was better than Lloyd's 2010. At least more impressive all things considered.
Aug 28, 2024 at 5:35 PM
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Now the fines are gonna start hitting
which will create a major decision point for him - he's made $12M his entire career - so he's probably taken home about $5.5M, over the course of 4 years - he has most likely spent a decent amount of that on just life.
so his wallet will take a major beating if he starts incurring a bunch of fines.
Minus taxes and agent fees a lot less
Aug 28, 2024 at 5:38 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Any player that can change what a defense has to do before the ball is snapped has worth that goes beyond his stats.
Not only does CMC produce.....but he alters defenses. Same with Deebo.
BA is a heck of a player, but I seriously doubt defenses will ever think of letting CMC, Kittle or Deebo run free...because come hell or high-water they have to layer the defense to limit BA.
BA is a good player, but he has not even matched peak Brandon Lloyd yet.
This is an absurd statement. By age 25, Aiyuk was an All Pro. By 25, Brandon Lloyd's best year was 700 yards and 5 TDs. "Peak" Brandon Lloyd was at age 29, so Aiyuk has plenty of time to catch him. He already matched his number of of All Pro seasons in his career.
Sure you can throw caveats at the statement..... but I clearly used the word PEAK.... I did not say anything about age, or snaps, or years in the NFL.
How absurd can it be if it is 100% accurate and truthful as written?
BA wants 30 million a year, and he has not yet matched the high-water mark of Brandon Lloyd... True or False?
Because its a disingenuous comparison. Thats why. And even still, I would argue that Aiyuk's 2023 season was better than Lloyd's 2010. At least more impressive all things considered.
What was better about it?
Aug 28, 2024 at 5:39 PM
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Looks like the Vet Conley is going to get a chance to show what he has. I think he's a solid reliable vet to have - although not on Aiyuks level, but could be a hell of a lot worse. If we mix in JJ/Cowing some coupled with Kittle/Deebo/CMC/Juice ... we have more than enough fire power to be a respectable offense.
The real concern is Trent - this offensive line is going to be what prevents the offense from being effective.
I think we confidently win without aiyuk, but im not confident we win without Trent.
Trent - Banks - Brendel - Puni - Mckvitz is a hell of a lot better than
Moore - banks - brendel - puni - mckivitz.... the thought of moore starting against the jets makes me sick.
The real concern is Trent - this offensive line is going to be what prevents the offense from being effective.
I think we confidently win without aiyuk, but im not confident we win without Trent.
Trent - Banks - Brendel - Puni - Mckvitz is a hell of a lot better than
Moore - banks - brendel - puni - mckivitz.... the thought of moore starting against the jets makes me sick.
Aug 28, 2024 at 5:43 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
What was better about it?
For one, Lloyd needed almost 50 more targets for 100 more yards.
Aug 28, 2024 at 5:51 PM
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
What was better about it?
For one, Lloyd needed almost 50 more targets for 100 more yards.
Fair enough and valid, and I think Ayiuk is infinitely better, but every other measurable shows Loyd's was better on paper .
Aug 28, 2024 at 6:21 PM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
What was better about it?
For one, Lloyd needed almost 50 more targets for 100 more yards.
Fair enough and valid, and I think Ayiuk is infinitely better, but every other measurable shows Loyd's was better on paper .
Take this to the Brandon Lloyd thread
Aug 28, 2024 at 6:29 PM
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Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
What was better about it?
For one, Lloyd needed almost 50 more targets for 100 more yards.
Fair enough and valid, and I think Ayiuk is infinitely better, but every other measurable shows Loyd's was better on paper .
Take this to the Brandon Lloyd thread
Please
Aug 28, 2024 at 6:30 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Now the fines are gonna start hitting
which will create a major decision point for him - he's made $12M his entire career - so he's probably taken home about $5.5M, over the course of 4 years - he has most likely spent a decent amount of that on just life.
so his wallet will take a major beating if he starts incurring a bunch of fines.
Minus taxes and agent fees a lot less
Also minus the girlfriend cut. She's running his life behind the scenes. Hopefully he either never marries or signs a prenup.
Aug 28, 2024 at 6:31 PM
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5th year option for this f**ker.
Aug 28, 2024 at 6:43 PM
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just keep him an let him rot.
tag him twice, let him sit.....and rot.
And don`t budge and trade him. Simply let him sit for 3 years making +20 Million less in total than what we offered.
And afterwards his market will be ruined anyways.
Tell him thats what he will face. Stop negotiating. Before he leaves the room explain it to him again, like one does to a 6 year old.
So to make sure he gets what he did to the full extend.
He will be an afterthought in 3 years, wonder if anyone would sign him anyways.
tag him twice, let him sit.....and rot.
And don`t budge and trade him. Simply let him sit for 3 years making +20 Million less in total than what we offered.
And afterwards his market will be ruined anyways.
Tell him thats what he will face. Stop negotiating. Before he leaves the room explain it to him again, like one does to a 6 year old.
So to make sure he gets what he did to the full extend.
He will be an afterthought in 3 years, wonder if anyone would sign him anyways.
[ Edited by 49ersFan_vienna on Aug 28, 2024 at 6:49 PM ]
Aug 28, 2024 at 6:43 PM
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Aiyuk in the contract meetings....
Aug 28, 2024 at 6:55 PM
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Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
just keep him an let him rot.
tag him twice, let him sit.....and rot.
And don`t budge and trade him. Simply let him sit for 3 years making +20 Million less in total than what we offered.
And afterwards his market will be ruined anyways.
Tell him thats what he will face. Stop negotiating. Before he leaves the room explain it to him again, like one does to a 6 year old.
So to make sure he gets what he did to the full extend.
He will be an afterthought in 3 years, wonder if anyone would sign him anyways.
Kinda brought all this on himself by being a complete dick. Agree.
Aug 28, 2024 at 6:56 PM
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Originally posted by father49er:
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by father49er:
I wonder why the 49ers just don't put him on PUP
Wouldnt they have to pay his salary?
Not sure how that works. He's on the roster. I'm guessing the fines he's incurring for not practicing is probably larger than his salary? Odd situation.
The fines of $50k a day pertain to training camp, but if the team doesn't dispute his "injury" and he's "holding in", that does not apply. They've declared him healthy now, so that may well change. His training camp pay is way way less at $1,850/week. In season, as it sits under the 5th year, he gets 1/18th of $14.1m per week, or $783,333, so if he's holding out, thats what he loses, not a fine.