Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Cap space can be rolled over.
So i bet 10+Million would nicely benefit us next year in signing Brock Purdy.

They can do whatever they want with it. That's the point. They have $40M in cap space. They don't need that to sign Brock. Dude isn't gonna go from $900K to $50M on the cap next yr in an extension. That's not how it works.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Is that true? If Cleveland and 49ers are in agreement trading for players with 1-year deals, despite Aiyuk not interested in an extension with Cleveland... they can still make the trade, no?
I don't see Cleveland going for that. At least, the draft picks would likely come off the table, then.

But, I don't think Aiyuk "has to approve" the trade.

Cleveland is not accepting a trade unless he signs an extension. Why would you give up a 2nd/5th and Cooper for a rental? BA will just do what he's doing here in that case. Not play.

he absolutely has to approve the trade. He's not gonna play without a contract regardless of where he goes.

Please read the whole post before responding. Also, please stop being so quick telling others how and what to think.
Your phrasing seems inaccurate. I was asking for clarification of your comment. Not providing another opportunity for your over-the-top pseudo-intellectual flabbergasting. Good grief!

I think our best strategy now is to pick up the contract, stop entertaining trades, and just have him play under his cost effective contract. I hope he plays, but if he holds out, he's got to come back at least for the last 6 regular season games when we are really jockeying for a playoff seed. Here's the deal. I don't think we can trust BA with a $112m contract. We have to cut somewhere, so it's crazy and too risky to keep a disgruntled player and cut someone that really wants to go for glory here. Just my opinion, but his irrational behavior, it seems to me, must reflect him still being butt hurt over being put in Kyle's dog house early on, so he's conflicted about really wanting to come back to us.

There are two big advantages to this. Number one, it took BA three years to become BA. This gives us at least a year to help Pearsall and Cowing along. I think that will work, but even if it doesn't, it gives us a year to find out and trade or draft for someone else. And secondly, this offseason, we can actually use the draft picks we trade him for, and everyone will have draft picks and changes to be made. If he plays like it's a contract year, I think we can get a 1st, and we can't now. And rotating into rookie contracts is what we must do.

I know, no one agree's with me, but it is possible to overpay for a receiver, even if that's the "market". The market is set by the bottom feeders that have nobody else to pay. You need really good recievers, but on a team that runs first and schemes people open better than anyone, I just don't think the difference between those guys and the top of the market pays off. There's just not enough balls to go around to keep BA happy and at the top of the league stat wise, so why would we want to replicate that.

My analogy is Jerry Jones' philosophy. Ever since he let Jimmy Johnson go, he's tried to win a SB with the attitude that "my hand doesn't shake when I'm writting those big checks". Yeah, and then the overall team has too many holes in it to go all the way. He hasn't won in about 30 years, like us, but in our case it was crap coaches and GM's, but he's been in charge all along. Let's not be the Cowboys. I think he's given up and is trimming that team to sell it now.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They can do whatever they want with it. That's the point. They have $40M in cap space. They don't need that to sign Brock. Dude isn't gonna go from $900K to $50M on the cap next yr in an extension. That's not how it works.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space
Thats not how it works.
49ers are 36 Million OVER the 2025 cap at this moment with 41 players signed.
Now tell me they can do whatever they want.

Originally posted by tankle104:
You just said that Pitt and sf have offered similar deals - here you're saying he wants what other teams have offered. Why would he be okay with Pitts offer but not sf? Can't be as petty as taxes.

wait until he starts getting fined - it's going to change a lot of things in regards to his perspective cause the niners most likely aren't changing their current offer and BA doesn't have the capital to where he can feel comfy getting hit with tons of fines (9-40k a day). Aiyuk at best has 2-3M leftover from his earnings, IMO.

I think the chance of an extension is over between SF/BA. He's either going to play on the fifth year or
not play at all IMO.

Pitt has offered similar deal, according to yahoo sports. He's not going there imo because the contract isn't there. He would have been gone if that's the case. There's out imo.

NE/Clevland offered more according to Adam Schefter. He WANTS what those two teams have offered as far as a contract goes. He's not gonna play in those places.

At this pt I don't see a viable trade and his options are extension here, sit out or play the option.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mitpdub:
We would match those deals but they're all in the same $26M per range as reported. He wants us to go higher (>$30M) because that's what he thinks he's worth.

NE was in the $32M range

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10131122-brandon-aiyuk-rumors-patriots-offered-32m-aav-contract-49ers-wont-rush-trade.amp.html

Pitt was similar to SF https://sports.yahoo.com/report-steelers-contract-offer-aiyuk-193848350.html#:~:text=The%20Steelers'%20price%20point%20was,the%20table%20with%20the%20Niners.%22

-and that's why imo he's not going to Pittsburgh and they're not even an option at this point.

Schefter literally just said the Browns offered more than SF, but he doesn't want to play here.

so like I said he's got three options take the deal, play on the option, or sit at home lose cash and market value. Seems like he's going the last route for now.

This is good info. I heard NE offered $32M but even Aiyuk knows that's 2 years there with crappy QB play and numbers then he's getting a 3rd year involuntary restructure or cut.

If Aiyuk wants to play here and comprehends the longevity of Brock making his life easier, he needs to step up.

If he signs, chances are that we won't re up Debo next year.

If he doesn't sign an extension then maybe we move that money to Debo and hope that slick Rick can play.

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space
Thats not how it works.
49ers are 36 Million OVER the 2025 cap at this moment with 41 players signed.
Now tell me they can do whatever they want.

That roll over has not been account for yet. They can always restructure and cut players. The cap is a myth overall. Go watch Philly and the Saints for the past decade.

Brock's cap hit in 2025 doesn't matter, it's an extension and he's still got a yr left next yr.

My god they actually save like $10M this yr if they give BA and extension.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space
Thats not how it works.
49ers are 36 Million OVER the 2025 cap at this moment with 41 players signed.
Now tell me they can do whatever they want.

That roll over has not been account for yet. They can always restructure and cut players. The cap is a myth overall. Go watch Philly and the Saints for the past decade.

Brock's cap hit in 2025 doesn't matter, it's an extension and he's still got a yr left next yr.

My god they actually save like $10M this yr if they give BA and extension.

Agree 💯%, and similar savings (I don't know the exact numbers with Trent) but same with Trent Williams.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
You just said that Pitt and sf have offered similar deals - here you're saying he wants what other teams have offered. Why would he be okay with Pitts offer but not sf? Can't be as petty as taxes.

wait until he starts getting fined - it's going to change a lot of things in regards to his perspective cause the niners most likely aren't changing their current offer and BA doesn't have the capital to where he can feel comfy getting hit with tons of fines (9-40k a day). Aiyuk at best has 2-3M leftover from his earnings, IMO.

I think the chance of an extension is over between SF/BA. He's either going to play on the fifth year or
not play at all IMO.

Pitt has offered similar deal, according to yahoo sports. He's not going there imo because the contract isn't there. He would have been gone if that's the case. There's out imo.

NE/Clevland offered more according to Adam Schefter. He WANTS what those two teams have offered as far as a contract goes. He's not gonna play in those places.

At this pt I don't see a viable trade and his options are extension here, sit out or play the option.

I agree that those are his options - the only viable trade I see happening would be Cleveland, cause of cooper, but Aiyuk doesn't want to go.

The fines will do 1 of 2 things - make Aiyuk mad and he digs his feet in more (doesn't play) or he plays on the fifth year. MAYBE he chooses to accept the cle offer but idk it's just weird.

a weird annoying situation and I think it got worse cause I think Aiyuk wants more now that lamb got paid. Im sorta over it - I really hope Conley plays well and we get Trent back soon. Real soon.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space
Thats not how it works.
49ers are 36 Million OVER the 2025 cap at this moment with 41 players signed.
Now tell me they can do whatever they want.

That roll over has not been account for yet. They can always restructure and cut players. The cap is a myth overall. Go watch Philly and the Saints for the past decade.

Brock's cap hit in 2025 doesn't matter, it's an extension and he's still got a yr left next yr.

My god they actually save like $10M this yr if they give BA and extension.

Lol. Stop man

They still have to account for the other 11 or so players next season. Some vets are getting older, I don't think they want to do what the Saints and Philly do and keep rolling it over. It cost the Rams and it cost the Saints. It is going to cost Philly soon.

The holdouts are totally unacceptable. It's become absurd.

The attention needs to shift over to Trent, he's the one we really need. BA can play out his contract for the 14mil, or sit out.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space
Thats not how it works.
49ers are 36 Million OVER the 2025 cap at this moment with 41 players signed.
Now tell me they can do whatever they want.

That roll over has not been account for yet. They can always restructure and cut players. The cap is a myth overall. Go watch Philly and the Saints for the past decade.

Brock's cap hit in 2025 doesn't matter, it's an extension and he's still got a yr left next yr.

My god they actually save like $10M this yr if they give BA and extension.

Lol. Stop man

They still have to account for the other 11 or so players next season. Some vets are getting older, I don't think they want to do what the Saints and Philly do and keep rolling it over. It cost the Rams and it cost the Saints. It is going to cost Philly soon.

lol using saints as a plan and Philly sacrificed defense for offense

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Cap space can be rolled over.
So i bet 10+Million would nicely benefit us next year in signing Brock Purdy.

They can do whatever they want with it. That's the point. They have $40M in cap space. They don't need that to sign Brock. Dude isn't gonna go from $900K to $50M on the cap next yr in an extension. That's not how it works.

No it doesn't. But it isn't just Brock. It's Brock and _____. Brock and Lenoir, maybe Ward, maybe Greenlaw, maybe Deebo. A potential extension could be on the horizon for Kittle (which may lower his cap number, but still). Unless the team knows these guys aren't getting 3rd contracts with the team, which in that case, go on and give into Aiyuk and Trent.

The good news is once we clear 2024 and 2025 offseasons, we get a little breather in 2026

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
The attention needs to shift over to Trent, he's the one we really need. BA can play out his contract for the 14mil, or sit out.

I'd imagine the Niners are way ahead of you.