Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
And to me this is the narrow point of this debate regards BA's contract. How does it affect this team in 2025 and 2026.

The bigger question is how will our drafted players do. No team can continue to compete without getting some good draft hits. Last tears draft class is looking pretty rough, but this year's looks promising. 2022 was rough outside of purdy, and so on.

Even if we didn't sign aiyuk this would be the key. You can't keep paying and paying. We need people on rookie deals to step up

Yep. The draft is important but it is balanced with signing players that were drafted and developed.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
So aiyuk should not get paid $30m because we have a good team around him, but a guy like Justin Jefferson who can fill up a stat sheet with empty catches/yards should because he plays on a junk team?

Do you think Brock purdy should be offered a significantly lower contract than the market dictates because there's a great team around him? At that point every player on our team needs to accept less because they are surrounded by other good players

None of that makes sense

Well I don't think anyone "should" do anything. It's all up to the players.

the reality is that it's easier for crappier teams to pay guys a ton cause they don't have many big contracts that are binding their salary cap.

its harder for a stacked team to pay players top tier, even if they're a top tier player, because their salary cap is strapped from an abundance of large contracts.

Something that's been lost in all of this is that Jed is the one who's made all these major contracts doable cause he is allowing massive signing bonuses. He has to write those checks up front but it provides a lot of cap flexibility to make things work.

I don't think players "should" do anything but the best way to maintain a stacked roster if it some of the guys take like 90% of what they could. That's the best way to sustain a teams core but players don't have to do anything. It's up to them.

i thought he said he was getting a suit? Lol but good for him. Big day for him and his loved ones.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Exactly a cog. Expectation is he is now a focus.

So aiyuk should not get paid $30m because we have a good team around him, but a guy like Justin Jefferson who can fill up a stat sheet with empty catches/yards should because he plays on a junk team?

Do you think Brock purdy should be offered a significantly lower contract than the market dictates because there's a great team around him? At that point every player on our team needs to accept less because they are surrounded by other good players

None of that makes sense

I don't think we should be paying that kind of a contract to a WR who is not a focus of the offense with plenty of important FAs coming up in 2025 and 2026. I dont value WRs like some do especially in a run centric offense. You win in the trenches and at QB. That is where I would be spending money. BA is a great player just not top 5 with and with big contracts already on the books and lots of other mouths to feed it does seem like a good decision

Originally posted by frenchmov:

ELITE WIDE RECEIVER: Brandon Aiyuk was successful running every route in the route tree last year, regardless of the coverage the defense played.

78.7% success rate vs. man, 96th percentile
85.4% success rate vs. zone, 91st percentile
83.6% success rate vs. press, 97th… pic.twitter.com/MbcRb4vKZv

— Chase Senior (@Chase_Senior) July 15, 2024

Here you go

For those curious, 56.9% of Aiyuk's routes were run against man coverage, 25.5% against press, 43.1% against zone, 5.4% against double man.

The group of WR's that have cleared the 90th percentile against all three coverages since 2014: Davante Adams, Justin Jefferson (twice), Stefon Diggs (twice), Antonio Brown (twice), Michael Thomas, and Brandon Aiyuk.

Since 2010, 7 receivers have averaged 3 yards per route run on 400+ routes: Victor Cruz, Andre Johnson, Julio Jones (thrice), Cooper Kupp, Tyreek Hill (twice), Nico Collins, and Brandon Aiyuk. Johnson (2012), Julio (2015-17), Aiyuk (2023), and Collins (2023) all accomplished that in Shanahan/Kubiak offenses. X Wideouts that can beat press/man coverages help maximize the system by stretching defenses.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
So aiyuk should not get paid $30m because we have a good team around him, but a guy like Justin Jefferson who can fill up a stat sheet with empty catches/yards should because he plays on a junk team?

Do you think Brock purdy should be offered a significantly lower contract than the market dictates because there's a great team around him? At that point every player on our team needs to accept less because they are surrounded by other good players

None of that makes sense

I think the point is fairly obvious. You stated that Aiyuk is 'a cog' but the reality is far from that. Shanahan's run-oriented system is the cog, and the guy at that center is CMC. Kittle is a far more instrumental component than Aiyuk in that cog. BA greatly benefits more from those guys and Kyle than they do from him, and it's not really debatable.

CMC deserves to be paid because he is arguably the best RB, in a run-oriented offense that opens up the passing game. George Kittle deserves to be paid because he is the most versatile TE in what he does both in the pass and run game. Brandon Aiyuk does not have the same cache as a WR.

Justin Jefferson can fill up a stat sheet because he is arguably the best receiver in the NFL. He'll demand far more attention than Aiyuk will, and no matter what, he constantly sees a statsheet of 7 catches/125 yds/2 TD's. It'll be probably harder sledding this year because of the QB situation, but the point stands. Now if Aiyuk was in JJ's situation....do you think he keeps pace? I ain't seeing that at all.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
So aiyuk should not get paid $30m because we have a good team around him, but a guy like Justin Jefferson who can fill up a stat sheet with empty catches/yards should because he plays on a junk team?

Do you think Brock purdy should be offered a significantly lower contract than the market dictates because there's a great team around him? At that point every player on our team needs to accept less because they are surrounded by other good players

None of that makes sense

I think the point is fairly obvious. You stated that Aiyuk is 'a cog' but the reality is far from that. Shanahan's run-oriented system is the cog, and the guy at that center is CMC. Kittle is a far more instrumental component than Aiyuk in that cog. BA greatly benefits more from those guys and Kyle than they do from him, and it's not really debatable.

CMC deserves to be paid because he is arguably the best RB, in a run-oriented offense that opens up the passing game. George Kittle deserves to be paid because he is the most versatile TE in what he does both in the pass and run game. Brandon Aiyuk does not have the same cache as a WR.

Justin Jefferson can fill up a stat sheet because he is arguably the best receiver in the NFL. He'll demand far more attention than Aiyuk will, and no matter what, he constantly sees a statsheet of 7 catches/125 yds/2 TD's. It'll be probably harder sledding this year because of the QB situation, but the point stands. Now if Aiyuk was in JJ's situation....do you think he keeps pace? I ain't seeing that at all.

I'm not sure you understand what a cog is

Originally posted by Tman:
I'm not sure you understand what a cog is

You know what....I had a brain fart...you're right. I stand corrected.

What I meant was hub.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
You know what....I had a brain fart...you're right. I stand corrected.

What I meant was hub.

There is no central part to Shanahan's system. The passing game is assisted by the running game. The running game is assisted by the passing game. Everyone is a cog, some larger than others.

Better earn that Money

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Exactly a cog. Expectation is he is now a focus.

So aiyuk should not get paid $30m because we have a good team around him, but a guy like Justin Jefferson who can fill up a stat sheet with empty catches/yards should because he plays on a junk team?

Do you think Brock purdy should be offered a significantly lower contract than the market dictates because there's a great team around him? At that point every player on our team needs to accept less because they are surrounded by other good players

None of that makes sense

I don't think we should be paying that kind of a contract to a WR who is not a focus of the offense with plenty of important FAs coming up in 2025 and 2026. I dont value WRs like some do especially in a run centric offense. You win in the trenches and at QB. That is where I would be spending money. BA is a great player just not top 5 with and with big contracts already on the books and lots of other mouths to feed it does seem like a good decision

Not only is Aiyuk our best pure receiver he is also an elite run blocker for the position. He has sprung loose CMC, Deebo, and others so many times over the years.

Originally posted by bud49:
Better earn that Money

No kidding, the WR market is getting ridiculous. BA should not be the 2nd highest paid on this team. CMC, Trent, Fred are all more important

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Brandon Aiyuk converted 60.4% of his targets into first downs or touchdowns in 2023 😳

The next best receiver? 52.0% pic.twitter.com/4BEdQrzVZr

— PFF SF 49ers (@PFF_49ers) August 30, 2024

Yeah BUT if he doesn't get 1,500+ yards and 15 tds it's a waste of money derp

in my eyes, I just think he needs to keep doing what he's been doing. Obviously we'd like to see him improve in areas like we do with any player, but we really just need him to just keep doing what he's been doing with Brock.

especially the selfless blocking he does when the ball isn't in his hands. That stuff is huge. BA does a lot without the ball in his hand that doesn't benefit his stat sheet.

Btw I know you're just making fun of what others have said and not me. Lol

While blocking is appreciated and required I might add as a minimum requirement for Shany's offense, it by no means does it justifies his contract.

His blocking along with his production the last two years justifies his contract.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Silky:

It didn't cost our window… this was literally done to make sure our current window is open as widely as possible.

It may have cost us Deebo or someone else next year I agree but that's about it.

It won't stay open beyond this season.

Yes it will.