Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
I think the point is fairly obvious. You stated that Aiyuk is 'a cog' but the reality is far from that. Shanahan's run-oriented system is the cog, and the guy at that center is CMC. Kittle is a far more instrumental component than Aiyuk in that cog. BA greatly benefits more from those guys and Kyle than they do from him, and it's not really debatable.

CMC deserves to be paid because he is arguably the best RB, in a run-oriented offense that opens up the passing game. George Kittle deserves to be paid because he is the most versatile TE in what he does both in the pass and run game. Brandon Aiyuk does not have the same cache as a WR.

Justin Jefferson can fill up a stat sheet because he is arguably the best receiver in the NFL. He'll demand far more attention than Aiyuk will, and no matter what, he constantly sees a statsheet of 7 catches/125 yds/2 TD's. It'll be probably harder sledding this year because of the QB situation, but the point stands. Now if Aiyuk was in JJ's situation....do you think he keeps pace? I ain't seeing that at all.

I have no idea what aiyuk would do if targeted 15 times a game. What I do know is aiyuk is open damn near every play and not because he's facing s**tty CBs.

I have news for you: Justin Jefferson is not double teamed every play. Go watch the film. He's not because no defense can commit those types of resources EVERY play to one player. The worst team in the NFL still has world class athletes and players that can make you pay on any given Sunday.

I say this because it's sometimes insinuated that well Jefferson/etc draws allllll the attention every play and look at aiyuk! Never has to worry because other players get the attention all the time!

It's not true. Yes, teams may have to pick their poison. Aiyuk is also part of that poison for a reason: he's an incredible receiver

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by bud49:
Better earn that Money

No kidding, the WR market is getting ridiculous. BA should not be the 2nd highest paid on this team. CMC, Trent, Fred are all more important

Yep to much money for a WR.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Please enjoy 2:22 of 49ers Brandon Aiyuk blocking his tail off 😮‍💨 pic.twitter.com/KWFU8ZqLsJ

— 𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙎𝙁𝙉𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙧𝙨 (@TheSFNiners) August 30, 2024

.@49ers @THE2ERA watch Aiyuk without the ball; the attention he receives; and the windows that open up for his teammates. Congrats on the extension. Purdy & Aiyuk for the longterm #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/Q6PqlohJF9

— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) August 30, 2024

Good finds. The blocking highlights are really amazing and as a former player and coach, so meaningful. Those long runs by CMC, Deebo, etc. simply do not happen without Aiyuk's tenacious blocking. Of the top WR's I would say Amon-Ra St. Brown is the only one on Aiyuk's level in terms of blocking ability and willingness.

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
No kidding, the WR market is getting ridiculous. BA should not be the 2nd highest paid on this team. CMC, Trent, Fred are all more important

Trent and Warner signed their contracts in 2021 when the cap was $182.5 Million. Both were the highest paid at their positions when they signed those contracts. It's 2024. After 2 years of better than expected growth, the cap is at $255.4M. The QB market has seen some slowing, which means money is going to get spent elsewhere. Dak's next contract is probably going to get it back on track. RB just isn't a position that is coveted as a priority position. CMC making 19M APY is amazing in itself. Aiyuk is able to cash in because of the timing of his contract. The 49ers wanted him to prove he was worth an extension last season. He did that. And because they waited to see him do that, they pay what the market dictates.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by dj43:
Tim Kawakami wrote a nice piece this morning in The Athletic. In short, the Aiyuk deal is a fair one for both sides. It is roughly the same deal as Amon-Ra St Brown got, and they are similar players. The FO had to play hardball to get it done but BA had been very difficult to follow leading up to the signing. It's worth the read if you have a subscription.

St. Browns contract was alot less money guaranteed. Did he get the 4th year?

From what I saw it was $77M total GTD for ASB. BA got $76M same as Waddle.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
I have no idea what aiyuk would do if targeted 15 times a game. What I do know is aiyuk is open damn near every play and not because he's facing s**tty CBs.

I have news for you: Justin Jefferson is not double teamed every play. Go watch the film. He's not because no defense can commit those types of resources EVERY play to one player. The worst team in the NFL still has world class athletes and players that can make you pay on any given Sunday.

I say this because it's sometimes insinuated that well Jefferson/etc draws allllll the attention every play and look at aiyuk! Never has to worry because other players get the attention all the time!

It's not true. Yes, teams may have to pick their poison. Aiyuk is also part of that poison for a reason: he's an incredible receiver

For anyone curious, PFF's charting of double coverage (2022 + 2023) has Aiyuk at 23.4% of routes run. That would be 15th out of 105 receivers.
Top 15: Jefferson, Tyreek, Chase, Adams, Waddle, Evans, Lamb, Metcalf, Kupp, ?, Cooper, ?, ?, Lockett, Aiyuk.

Originally posted by Typecast:
For anyone curious, PFF's charting of double coverage (2022 + 2023) has Aiyuk at 23.4% of routes run. That would be 15th out of 105 receivers.
Jefferson >>>> Tyreek > Chase > Adams > Waddle > Evans > Lamb.

https://t.co/DopSbmLfZo pic.twitter.com/DLiwyVqfRS

— Arif Hasan, but NFL 🏈 (@ArifHasanNFL) June 5, 2024

15th of the 105 receivers in the set at 23.4%

— Arif Hasan, but NFL 🏈 (@ArifHasanNFL) June 5, 2024

Good info right here

Originally posted by frenchmov:
I have no idea what aiyuk would do if targeted 15 times a game. What I do know is aiyuk is open damn near every play and not because he's facing s**tty CBs.

I have news for you: Justin Jefferson is not double teamed every play. Go watch the film. He's not because no defense can commit those types of resources EVERY play to one player. The worst team in the NFL still has world class athletes and players that can make you pay on any given Sunday.

I say this because it's sometimes insinuated that well Jefferson/etc draws allllll the attention every play and look at aiyuk! Never has to worry because other players get the attention all the time!

It's not true. Yes, teams may have to pick their poison. Aiyuk is also part of that poison for a reason: he's an incredible receiver

Who is making these arguments? Justin Jefferson isn't double teamed on every play? No kidding....but he damn well draws more attention than Aiyuk will, and that is simply not up for debate. Aiyuk is also in a far more generous position because of the offense he plays in/surrounding talent - again - not up for debate.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by dj43:
Tim Kawakami wrote a nice piece this morning in The Athletic. In short, the Aiyuk deal is a fair one for both sides. It is roughly the same deal as Amon-Ra St Brown got, and they are similar players. The FO had to play hardball to get it done but BA had been very difficult to follow leading up to the signing. It's worth the read if you have a subscription.

St. Browns contract was alot less money guaranteed. Did he get the 4th year?

From what I saw it was $77M total GTD for ASB. BA got $76M same as Waddle.

My mistake. Heard that on a cohn podcast.

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
No kidding, the WR market is getting ridiculous. BA should not be the 2nd highest paid on this team. CMC, Trent, Fred are all more important

Trent and Warner signed their contracts in 2021 when the cap was $182.5 Million. Both were the highest paid at their positions when they signed those contracts. It's 2024. After 2 years of better than expected growth, the cap is at $255.4M. The QB market has seen some slowing, which means money is going to get spent elsewhere. Dak's next contract is probably going to get it back on track. RB just isn't a position that is coveted as a priority position. CMC making 19M APY is amazing in itself. Aiyuk is able to cash in because of the timing of his contract. The 49ers wanted him to prove he was worth an extension last season. He did that. And because they waited to see him do that, they pay what the market dictates.

Great post

Still can't believe the absolute garbage this year was willing to take back for Yuk. It's crazy.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

My mistake. Heard that on a cohn podcast.

Reading his b******t is difficult enough… couldn't imagine voluntarily listening to it

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:
Tim Kawakami wrote a nice piece this morning in The Athletic. In short, the Aiyuk deal is a fair one for both sides. It is roughly the same deal as Amon-Ra St Brown got, and they are similar players. The FO had to play hardball to get it done but BA had been very difficult to follow leading up to the signing. It's worth the read if you have a subscription.

I hope both sides got a fair deal - I think that's how it should be. I think just about every one believes that Aiyuk got a deal that represents his ability/production.

my question is - if the deal ended up being fair, why the hell did that take so long and who's responsible? Which party was asking for something that wasn't fair?

was the team trying to lowball him or provide crappy structure or was Aiyuk trying to get more than his Fair share? Maybe both?

As someone who negotiates contracts with multiple parties involved and a lot of money involved - it isn't that difficult to come to a fair resolution. What usually prevents that or prolongs it is when someone is being irrational. It's really annoying and I think the team suffers from it.

"This deal, as reported, seems almost identical to the four-year, $120 million deal that Detroit gave to Amon-Ra St. Brown in April. That deal had $77 million in guarantees. Aiyuk's reportedly has $76 million. Both have annual average salaries of $30 million, which lands squarely in the top five among WR deals, ranking just ahead of Tyreek Hill and below Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, and A.J. Brown."

Who "won" this deal? It's hard to tell. For now, let's call it a tie because it all makes sense. This is the deal that has made sense for Aiyuk and the 49ers ever since St. Brown signed. This is the same deal that, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter, has been on the table from the 49ers since Aug. 13. Jed York and Paraag Marathe offered enough money. Aiyuk signed for what he's worth."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5733033/2024/08/29/brandon-aiyuk-49ers-deal-contract-negotiation-kawakami/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983&userId=326877

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
I have no idea what aiyuk would do if targeted 15 times a game. What I do know is aiyuk is open damn near every play and not because he's facing s**tty CBs.

I have news for you: Justin Jefferson is not double teamed every play. Go watch the film. He's not because no defense can commit those types of resources EVERY play to one player. The worst team in the NFL still has world class athletes and players that can make you pay on any given Sunday.

I say this because it's sometimes insinuated that well Jefferson/etc draws allllll the attention every play and look at aiyuk! Never has to worry because other players get the attention all the time!

It's not true. Yes, teams may have to pick their poison. Aiyuk is also part of that poison for a reason: he's an incredible receiver

Who is making these arguments? Justin Jefferson isn't double teamed on every play? No kidding....but he damn well draws more attention than Aiyuk will, and that is simply not up for debate. Aiyuk is also in a far more generous position because of the offense he plays in/surrounding talent - again - not up for debate.

JJ is the only real receiving threat the Vikings have. They can afford to double him more often. Aiyuk benefits from having Kittle, Deebo, and CMC that must be covered as well. Hence, he doesn't get quite the attention of JJ.

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Still can't believe the absolute garbage this year was willing to take back for Yuk. It's crazy.

It was to call his bluff. I wasn't believing any of those trash trades until pen was put to paper