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Originally posted by 9erson3:
It would be swell to keep our D in tact as much as possible. Funny how they are forgotten in the world of let's keep every WR we can. Thats my vibe.

It's once again an offensive league. Everyone trying to be us all of a sudden. Didn't you see the last draft? Had a run on offensive players and great defensive talents were to be found later on. Everyone now trying to stockpile weapons offensively

We had the leagues best DL a few years now but we get to the bowl and they just get held and tackled from behind on third down so now teams are tooling up offensively trying to beat KC and us
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Whatever everyone thinks. It's pretty easy to look at these puzzle pieces and see where we are headed next year. Lets keep seeing how we can make the cap work for all of them. It ain't happening.

And yes, George is underutilized no matter how much blocking he does.

Do we go with the people actually talking about numbers to support their position? Or do we go with vibes?

It would be swell to keep our D in tact as much as possible. Funny how they are forgotten in the world of let's keep every WR we can. Thats my vibe.

Nothing we've done with Aiyuk and CMC and what we'll do with Trent and Purdy, will hurt the defense. Getting these extensions done will create cap space to resign guys like Lenoir. Hufanga's replacement has already been drafted in Mustapha. Campbell is filling in for Greenlaw, who will get an on-field opportunity this season to show he's recovered from the achilles. The team wants to resign Ward. Ward wants to experience free agency. Unfortunately, Ward's contract expires like a week after the Super Bowl, a month before the start of free agency. His 12M in void year cap hits will accelerate into a single dead money cap hit. It's hard to give Ward a top-5 contract while eating 12M in dead money. Who else on defense are you worried about?
[ Edited by Typecast on Aug 30, 2024 at 10:32 PM ]
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
It would be swell to keep our D in tact as much as possible. Funny how they are forgotten in the world of let's keep every WR we can. Thats my vibe.

It's once again an offensive league. Everyone trying to be us all of a sudden. Didn't you see the last draft? Had a run on offensive players and great defensive talents were to be found later on. Everyone now trying to stockpile weapons offensively

We had the leagues best DL a few years now but we get to the bowl and they just get held and tackled from behind on third down so now teams are tooling up offensively trying to beat KC and us

Yep. The way to win now is load offense with playmakers, have one great pass rusher, and then build up the DBs/coverage LBs.
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
I haven't seen a lot of people or posters claim this but I'm going to go ahead and say that Deebo isn't going anywhere next year or in the near future. It's been assumed that we can't afford him beyond this year but I'm here to tell you I don't believe that. That's my opinion.

If Deebo has a great year he will be right back here with us next year

Idk if deebo will be gone or not - I love the guy and expect a big year this year from him.

with that said, if we do resign him - is the plan for Ricky Pearsall to be a 3rd string WR as a first round pick?

that'll be interesting to see how it all falls together.

George Kittle needs more involvement. We don't need all these guys. Mahomes or not, KC wins it all with Kelce. I just don't understand why George not used more and he never b***hes. We can do without Deeb and hopefully Pearsall is a stud.

Kittle is involved a LOT! It's just a lot of his use is as a blocker, because A - he's great at it! And B - We can't get a decent RT and they need the help. He doesn't complain because have you seen him play?? Dude LOVES being physical and mixing it up. He's said several times he doesn't care about how many catches he gets.
if any of you were paying attention, Kittle had his 3rd best year last year

And why is that? Because historically he has been used a LOT as a blocker. Nobody ever said he didn't have a good year, and nobody said they were just talking about last year. But ironinc on the "paying attention".
you guys are complaining about usage, well there you have it. his offense production went up lol. that's what i mean by paying attention

With his skill set, he could be hitting 1,000 yards and be among the tops in TE receptions EVERY season. You realize he had 65 catches last season? 65. Travis Kelce had 93! The season before? Kittle had 60. Kelce had 110! Too much comparison to Kelce? Ok - last season Kittle was 10th in Tight End receptions. 10th. Behind such generational talents as Jake Ferguson, Dalton Kincaid, and the one and only Cole Kmet! How hard is any of this to understand, seriously?

And as far as his "production went up" - his yards went up. Catches were down. TD's were down. Targets were down. He did a LOT with the opportunities that he got, but he did have fewer of them.
This is not how this offense is, how is that hard to understand... we don't need to throw to kittle 100 times a season to win lol
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
It would be swell to keep our D in tact as much as possible. Funny how they are forgotten in the world of let's keep every WR we can. Thats my vibe.

It's once again an offensive league. Everyone trying to be us all of a sudden. Didn't you see the last draft? Had a run on offensive players and great defensive talents were to be found later on. Everyone now trying to stockpile weapons offensively

We had the leagues best DL a few years now but we get to the bowl and they just get held and tackled from behind on third down so now teams are tooling up offensively trying to beat KC and us

A bunch of chokers?
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
It would be swell to keep our D in tact as much as possible. Funny how they are forgotten in the world of let's keep every WR we can. Thats my vibe.

It's once again an offensive league. Everyone trying to be us all of a sudden. Didn't you see the last draft? Had a run on offensive players and great defensive talents were to be found later on. Everyone now trying to stockpile weapons offensively

We had the leagues best DL a few years now but we get to the bowl and they just get held and tackled from behind on third down so now teams are tooling up offensively trying to beat KC and us

A bunch of chokers?

🤣 such a petulant child
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
It would be swell to keep our D in tact as much as possible. Funny how they are forgotten in the world of let's keep every WR we can. Thats my vibe.

It's once again an offensive league. Everyone trying to be us all of a sudden. Didn't you see the last draft? Had a run on offensive players and great defensive talents were to be found later on. Everyone now trying to stockpile weapons offensively

We had the leagues best DL a few years now but we get to the bowl and they just get held and tackled from behind on third down so now teams are tooling up offensively trying to beat KC and us

A bunch of chokers?

Go play with your action figures
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Maybe Brock will take Monopoly money. Who's next to scream underpaid after these two. After Trent settled are we peaches and cream?

Peace, didn't mean to come across a dick but what's happening now is a good sign of Brock and reality.

We can afford to pay Brock. Here's the contract AB81Rules (Jason Hurley @ 49ersCap) shared back in June.
https://49erscap.com/index.php/2024/06/29/a-look-at-how-the-49ers-can-indeed-keep-brandon-aiyuk-brock-purdy-as-well-as-deebo-samuel-others-long-term/

2025: $12.119M ($1.1M 2025 salary, $11M 2025 signing bonus proration, $19k 2022 signing bonus proration)
2026: $20.020M ($1.17M 2026 salary, $7M 2026 option bonus proration, $11M 2025 signing bonus proration, 100k workout bonus, 750k per game roster bonus)
2027: $27.065M ($1.215M 2027 salary, $7M 2027 option bonus proration, $7M 2026 option bonus proration, $11M 2025 signing bonus proration, 100k workout bonus, 750k per game roster bonus)
2028: $64.85M ($32M 2028 salary, $7M 2028 option bonus proration, $7M 2027 option bonus proration, $7M 2026 option bonus proration, $11M 2025 signing bonus proration, 100k workout bonus, 750k per game roster bonus)
2029: $68.85M ($32M 2029 salary, $4M 2029 option bonus proration, $7M 2028 option bonus proration, $7M 2027 option bonus proration, $7M 2026 option bonus proration, $11M 2025 signing bonus proration, 100k workout bonus, 750k per game roster bonus)
2030: $65.615M ($39.765M 2030 salary, $4M 2029 option bonus proration, $7M 2028 option bonus proration, $7M 2027 option bonus proration, $7M 2026 option bonus proration, 100k workout bonus, 750k per game roster bonus)
2031: $18M (Void, $4M 2029 option bonus proration, $7M 2028 option bonus proration, $7M 2027 option bonus proration)
2032: $11M (Void, $4M 2029 option bonus proration, $7M 2028 option bonus proration)
2033: $4M (Void, $4M 2029 option bonus proration)

At a conservative 7% year-to-year cap growth, the % of the cap consumed by the above cap hits are
2025: 4.43% (12.119M / 273.3M)
2026: 6.85% (20.02M / 292.4M)
2027: 8.65% (27.065M / 312.9M)
2028: 19.37% (64.85M / 334.8M)
2029: 19.22% (68.85M / 358.2M)
2030: 17.12% (65.615M / 383.2M)
[ Edited by Typecast on Aug 30, 2024 at 11:26 PM ]
I want a 49ers red feather pen. Glad Brock gets one of his favorite targets back.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
I haven't seen a lot of people or posters claim this but I'm going to go ahead and say that Deebo isn't going anywhere next year or in the near future. It's been assumed that we can't afford him beyond this year but I'm here to tell you I don't believe that. That's my opinion.

If Deebo has a great year he will be right back here with us next year

Idk if deebo will be gone or not - I love the guy and expect a big year this year from him.

with that said, if we do resign him - is the plan for Ricky Pearsall to be a 3rd string WR as a first round pick?

that'll be interesting to see how it all falls together.

George Kittle needs more involvement. We don't need all these guys. Mahomes or not, KC wins it all with Kelce. I just don't understand why George not used more and he never b***hes. We can do without Deeb and hopefully Pearsall is a stud.

Kittle is involved a LOT! It's just a lot of his use is as a blocker, because A - he's great at it! And B - We can't get a decent RT and they need the help. He doesn't complain because have you seen him play?? Dude LOVES being physical and mixing it up. He's said several times he doesn't care about how many catches he gets.
if any of you were paying attention, Kittle had his 3rd best year last year

And why is that? Because historically he has been used a LOT as a blocker. Nobody ever said he didn't have a good year, and nobody said they were just talking about last year. But ironinc on the "paying attention".
you guys are complaining about usage, well there you have it. his offense production went up lol. that's what i mean by paying attention

With his skill set, he could be hitting 1,000 yards and be among the tops in TE receptions EVERY season. You realize he had 65 catches last season? 65. Travis Kelce had 93! The season before? Kittle had 60. Kelce had 110! Too much comparison to Kelce? Ok - last season Kittle was 10th in Tight End receptions. 10th. Behind such generational talents as Jake Ferguson, Dalton Kincaid, and the one and only Cole Kmet! How hard is any of this to understand, seriously?

And as far as his "production went up" - his yards went up. Catches were down. TD's were down. Targets were down. He did a LOT with the opportunities that he got, but he did have fewer of them.
This is not how this offense is, how is that hard to understand... we don't need to throw to kittle 100 times a season to win lol

Which means...DING DING DING...he is under-used!!!! You know, I'm done. No point wasting my time debating with people that can't put 2 and 2 together.
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
I haven't seen a lot of people or posters claim this but I'm going to go ahead and say that Deebo isn't going anywhere next year or in the near future. It's been assumed that we can't afford him beyond this year but I'm here to tell you I don't believe that. That's my opinion.

If Deebo has a great year he will be right back here with us next year

Idk if deebo will be gone or not - I love the guy and expect a big year this year from him.

with that said, if we do resign him - is the plan for Ricky Pearsall to be a 3rd string WR as a first round pick?

that'll be interesting to see how it all falls together.

George Kittle needs more involvement. We don't need all these guys. Mahomes or not, KC wins it all with Kelce. I just don't understand why George not used more and he never b***hes. We can do without Deeb and hopefully Pearsall is a stud.

Kittle is involved a LOT! It's just a lot of his use is as a blocker, because A - he's great at it! And B - We can't get a decent RT and they need the help. He doesn't complain because have you seen him play?? Dude LOVES being physical and mixing it up. He's said several times he doesn't care about how many catches he gets.
if any of you were paying attention, Kittle had his 3rd best year last year

And why is that? Because historically he has been used a LOT as a blocker. Nobody ever said he didn't have a good year, and nobody said they were just talking about last year. But ironinc on the "paying attention".
you guys are complaining about usage, well there you have it. his offense production went up lol. that's what i mean by paying attention

With his skill set, he could be hitting 1,000 yards and be among the tops in TE receptions EVERY season. You realize he had 65 catches last season? 65. Travis Kelce had 93! The season before? Kittle had 60. Kelce had 110! Too much comparison to Kelce? Ok - last season Kittle was 10th in Tight End receptions. 10th. Behind such generational talents as Jake Ferguson, Dalton Kincaid, and the one and only Cole Kmet! How hard is any of this to understand, seriously?

And as far as his "production went up" - his yards went up. Catches were down. TD's were down. Targets were down. He did a LOT with the opportunities that he got, but he did have fewer of them.
This is not how this offense is, how is that hard to understand... we don't need to throw to kittle 100 times a season to win lol

Which means...DING DING DING...he is under-used!!!! You know, I'm done. No point wasting my time debating with people that can't put 2 and 2 together.

Or possibly with people who have a different opinion to yours. Cut the snark.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
I haven't seen a lot of people or posters claim this but I'm going to go ahead and say that Deebo isn't going anywhere next year or in the near future. It's been assumed that we can't afford him beyond this year but I'm here to tell you I don't believe that. That's my opinion.

If Deebo has a great year he will be right back here with us next year

Idk if deebo will be gone or not - I love the guy and expect a big year this year from him.

with that said, if we do resign him - is the plan for Ricky Pearsall to be a 3rd string WR as a first round pick?

that'll be interesting to see how it all falls together.

George Kittle needs more involvement. We don't need all these guys. Mahomes or not, KC wins it all with Kelce. I just don't understand why George not used more and he never b***hes. We can do without Deeb and hopefully Pearsall is a stud.

Kittle is involved a LOT! It's just a lot of his use is as a blocker, because A - he's great at it! And B - We can't get a decent RT and they need the help. He doesn't complain because have you seen him play?? Dude LOVES being physical and mixing it up. He's said several times he doesn't care about how many catches he gets.
if any of you were paying attention, Kittle had his 3rd best year last year

And why is that? Because historically he has been used a LOT as a blocker. Nobody ever said he didn't have a good year, and nobody said they were just talking about last year. But ironinc on the "paying attention".
you guys are complaining about usage, well there you have it. his offense production went up lol. that's what i mean by paying attention

With his skill set, he could be hitting 1,000 yards and be among the tops in TE receptions EVERY season. You realize he had 65 catches last season? 65. Travis Kelce had 93! The season before? Kittle had 60. Kelce had 110! Too much comparison to Kelce? Ok - last season Kittle was 10th in Tight End receptions. 10th. Behind such generational talents as Jake Ferguson, Dalton Kincaid, and the one and only Cole Kmet! How hard is any of this to understand, seriously?

And as far as his "production went up" - his yards went up. Catches were down. TD's were down. Targets were down. He did a LOT with the opportunities that he got, but he did have fewer of them.
This is not how this offense is, how is that hard to understand... we don't need to throw to kittle 100 times a season to win lol

Which means...DING DING DING...he is under-used!!!! You know, I'm done. No point wasting my time debating with people that can't put 2 and 2 together.

Or possibly with people who have a different opinion to yours. Cut the snark.

Well the person with the "if any of you were paying attention" started the snark. It's fine, I just added just another poster to my ignore list. I think there are more people ignored now, than not. I miss when the site was actually full of people with good takes. Not just the same repetitive posts or nothing but emojis to up their post count.
I do hope we throw to Kittle more often, him and BP have that special connection, Kittle just gets it done. Dude is hungry, feed him. I also love feeding Juice, another guy that just gets it done.
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
I haven't seen a lot of people or posters claim this but I'm going to go ahead and say that Deebo isn't going anywhere next year or in the near future. It's been assumed that we can't afford him beyond this year but I'm here to tell you I don't believe that. That's my opinion.

If Deebo has a great year he will be right back here with us next year

Idk if deebo will be gone or not - I love the guy and expect a big year this year from him.

with that said, if we do resign him - is the plan for Ricky Pearsall to be a 3rd string WR as a first round pick?

that'll be interesting to see how it all falls together.

George Kittle needs more involvement. We don't need all these guys. Mahomes or not, KC wins it all with Kelce. I just don't understand why George not used more and he never b***hes. We can do without Deeb and hopefully Pearsall is a stud.

Kittle is involved a LOT! It's just a lot of his use is as a blocker, because A - he's great at it! And B - We can't get a decent RT and they need the help. He doesn't complain because have you seen him play?? Dude LOVES being physical and mixing it up. He's said several times he doesn't care about how many catches he gets.
if any of you were paying attention, Kittle had his 3rd best year last year

And why is that? Because historically he has been used a LOT as a blocker. Nobody ever said he didn't have a good year, and nobody said they were just talking about last year. But ironinc on the "paying attention".
you guys are complaining about usage, well there you have it. his offense production went up lol. that's what i mean by paying attention

With his skill set, he could be hitting 1,000 yards and be among the tops in TE receptions EVERY season. You realize he had 65 catches last season? 65. Travis Kelce had 93! The season before? Kittle had 60. Kelce had 110! Too much comparison to Kelce? Ok - last season Kittle was 10th in Tight End receptions. 10th. Behind such generational talents as Jake Ferguson, Dalton Kincaid, and the one and only Cole Kmet! How hard is any of this to understand, seriously?

And as far as his "production went up" - his yards went up. Catches were down. TD's were down. Targets were down. He did a LOT with the opportunities that he got, but he did have fewer of them.
This is not how this offense is, how is that hard to understand... we don't need to throw to kittle 100 times a season to win lol

Which means...DING DING DING...he is under-used!!!! You know, I'm done. No point wasting my time debating with people that can't put 2 and 2 together.

Originally posted by Typecast:
Details are out!
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/inside-the-brandon-aiyuk-deal
Signing bonus + 2 Option Bonuses + first 3 years of minimized salaries.
Cap Hits are $5.725 Million, $11.191 Million, $16.223 Million, $42.282 Million, $44.158 Million.

Really good deal for Aiyuk / the absolute high end of what he could have been paid without an inflated 4th year. Amon Ra is effectively 3 years $84M ($28M/year with 4th year ripped up). Aiyuk is 3 years $90M or 4 years $120M.

Not crazy for the 49ers - the realistic range was always $28-$30M regardless of when we signed him (because the cap had gone up, new WR contracts weren't inflated relative to how much the salary cap had gone up) even though many fans wanted $25M early in the offseason.
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