Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Big mistake not to trade BA by April 1.

he's just untradeable. other teams don't line up for large cap hits that are on the pup most likely

Depends on what the 49ers want in return? I wpuld take a day 3 pick or a package of hot dogs.

Just cut him before tomorrow. Hot dogs on me.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
B.A and his agent were very smart about the structure of the deal. The bonuses really protected him against injury.

l looked at Adam Schefter's article and B.A has a huge bonus coming this week which guarantees his huge option bonus for next year as well. Because he's injured and can't pass a physical we can't cut him since those bonuses are protected for injury and would become fully guaranteed if he is cut right now.

B.A's and his agent were really on top of it.

Yea it was smart b/c otherwise the team probably would've cut him.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by goatroppolo:
Would be a big mistake to trade BA unless you are getting a premium asset. He's a #1 WR all day and I think he will be just fine coming off his injury.

He won't get traded. No team is going to give a 1st or even a 2nd round pick for a WR that may not play until midway through the season and may not be the same player.

Who said anything about trading him for a 1st or 2nd?

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
B.A and his agent were very smart about the structure of the deal. The bonuses really protected him against injury.

l looked at Adam Schefter's article and B.A has a huge bonus coming this week which guarantees his huge option bonus for next year as well. Because he's injured and can't pass a physical we can't cut him since those bonuses are protected for injury and would become fully guaranteed if he is cut right now.

B.A's and his agent were really on top of it.

Yea it was smart b/c otherwise the team probably would've cut him.

Exactly, they negotiated for security against these type of knee jerk decisions.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I wonder if Aiyuk will feel slighted by all the talk about possibly trading him. WRs are so easily offended. He has to overcome the injury first.

There is probably something there, but I doubt it affects him. Aiyuk's spent all last offseason with the knowledge that the 49ers were trying to trade him. Aiyuk even brought teams to the trade table. In the end, he got paid what he wanted. He's got 24.125M already. He has 51M-ish guaranteed to him through the next two years.

You know which group is more easily offended than WRs? Fans.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by goatroppolo:
Would be a big mistake to trade BA unless you are getting a premium asset. He's a #1 WR all day and I think he will be just fine coming off his injury.

He won't get traded. No team is going to give a 1st or even a 2nd round pick for a WR that may not play until midway through the season and may not be the same player.

Who said anything about trading him for a 1st or 2nd?

The sentiment from Aiyuk haters is that trading him can still fetch a day 2 or early day 3 pick with the knee injury, which is the same amount of cope as anyone thinking the 49ers could get a first for him. A conditional late day 3 pick in 2026 or 2027 is the ceiling. Everyone knows the 49ers are under a spending crunch being directed by ownership. No point in bidding for a guy in the middle of their recovery.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Big mistake not to trade BA by April 1.

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he's just untradeable. other teams don't line up for large cap hits that are on the pup most likely

Depends on what the 49ers want in return? I wpuld take a day 3 pick or a package of hot dogs.

Just cut him before tomorrow. Hot dogs on me.

Aiyuk's contract has 20.875M of his 24.875M in 2025 compensation fully guaranteed at signing. The remaining 4M of that 2025 compensation and Aiyuk's entire 27M compensation in 2026 was guaranteed against injury at signing. On April 1st, the 31M guaranteed against injury vests into a full guarantee. Aiyuk is currently injured and will not pass a physical before April 1st. So that 31M is already guaranteed to him.

Cutting Aiyuk on or before June 1st is going to carry a 70.275M dead money cap hit in 2025.

• 70.275M = 18.4M (remaining Signing Bonus prorations) + 24.875M (25 compensation) + 27M (26 compensation)

The guarantee against injury for Aiyuk's 2025 and 2026 compensation covers his salaries, option bonuses, workout bonuses, and active gameday bonuses.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/inside-the-brandon-aiyuk-deal

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Big mistake not to trade BA by April 1.

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he's just untradeable. other teams don't line up for large cap hits that are on the pup most likely

Depends on what the 49ers want in return? I wpuld take a day 3 pick or a package of hot dogs.

Just cut him before tomorrow. Hot dogs on me.

Lol.

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Big mistake not to trade BA by April 1.

he's just untradeable. other teams don't line up for large cap hits that are on the pup most likely

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Depends on what the 49ers want in return? I wpuld take a day 3 pick or a package of hot dogs.

Just cut him before tomorrow. Hot dogs on me.

Aiyuk's contract has 20.875M of his 24.875M in 2025 compensation fully guaranteed at signing. The remaining 4M of that 2025 compensation and Aiyuk's entire 27M compensation in 2026 was guaranteed against injury at signing. On April 1st, the 31M guaranteed against injury vests into a full guarantee. Aiyuk is currently injured and will not pass a physical before April 1st. So that 31M is already guaranteed to him.

Cutting Aiyuk on or before June 1st is going to carry a 70.275M dead money cap hit in 2025.

• 70.275M = 18.4M (remaining Signing Bonus prorations) + 24.875M (25 compensation) + 27M (26 compensation)

The guarantee against injury for Aiyuk's 2025 and 2026 compensation covers his salaries, option bonuses, workout bonuses, and active gameday bonuses.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/inside-the-brandon-aiyuk-deal

JHC. And those evil owners are Interfering in football business. We Are a bottom dweller. Hope it's fixed.

Is this what it takes to keep Kyle happy?

Seems to me we should have signed BA last year and then traded him immediately for picks and cash if that was permissible. Otherwise were we really trying to trade him in the first place

In other words I wondering if a sign and trade was possible or is that not allowed in the NFL?

We got screwed and I don't want this happening again

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Seems to me we should have signed BA last year and then traded him immediately for picks and cash if that was permissible. Otherwise were we really trying to trade him in the first place

In other words I wondering if a sign and trade was possible or is that not allowed in the NFL?

We got screwed and I don't want this happening again

I think we had him on the 5th year option for $14.1m. Why not do that?

If we didn't have that, the franchise tag was $22m.

If we have to be this stupid to keep Kyle...

Maybe Pats, Raiders or Jets willing to swap 2nd, 3rd and/or 4ths plus give up a 5th or 6th pick AND the hot dogs

We keepin this scrub?

J/k lol

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Maybe Pats, Raiders or Jets willing to swap 2nd, 3rd and/or 4ths plus give up a 5th or 6th pick AND the hot dogs

Dead $ ???

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Seems to me we should have signed BA last year and then traded him immediately for picks and cash if that was permissible. Otherwise were we really trying to trade him in the first place

In other words I wondering if a sign and trade was possible or is that not allowed in the NFL?

We got screwed and I don't want this happening again

The league by-laws prevent trading cash. In 2020, Clowney was a free agent. The Titans offered him a 12M/1 contract with 3M in incentives. The Saints were interested in signing Clowney, but they couldn't beat the Titans offer. They hatched a plan to have the Browns sign him for 15M/1 with a 5M signing bonus. The Browns would immediately trade Clowney to the Saints and eat a 5M dead money cap hit in exchange for a second-round pick. The Saints would get Clowney signed for 10M/1. Once the Saints had it worked out, they asked the league if such a trade would be allowed. The league said no, referencing the by-laws. The best part of this story is had the league allowed this sign-and-trade scenario to happen, Clowney would have ended up in Baltimore via Jacksonville as they too were exploring a sign-and-trade scenario.

The CBA prevents trading players that are not signed to a contract. Any trade would require Aiyuk to first sign his tender. There are also protections for players subject to a tender or qualifying offer. During the signing period, both the player and the NFLPA have a right of first refusal on any trade. The signing period ends at 4PM on July 15th, or the first Monday thereafter if July 15th falls on a Saturday or Sunday. Other concerns include "good faith" clauses in the CBA where the player has an expectation of playing for the team that signed them. The NFL and NFLPA really do not like teams messing with the first year of a multi-year contract.

The 49ers screwed themselves because the front office weren't on the same page. Paraag Marathe didn't value Aiyuk at his asking price and wanted Lynch to trade him before the draft. Lynch overvalued Aiyuk and none of the five teams that were willing to pay Aiyuk were willing to meet the 49ers demands. Jaguars turned down the 49ers offer of Pick 17 and Zay Jones. The Steelers offered pick 20 straight up and the 49ers declined. Paraag ghosted Aiyuk from mid-May to mid-July. During this time, the 49ers kept trying to trade Aiyuk and even explored trading for Justin Jefferson before he was extended. The 49ers could have had Aiyuk signed at 26M AAV in February-March. Aiyuk's value went to 120M/4 (30M AAV) when the market exploded before the draft.

In late-July, early-August, was the second time the 49ers put Aiyuk on the trade block, this time at Aiyuk's request. The 49ers agreed to trade Aiyuk for packages that include Amari Cooper from the Browns or Kendrick Bourne from the Patriots. Both teams required Aiyuk be willing to extend. Since Aiyuk declined to extend, those deals were essentially dead. The 49ers called about acquiring Davante Adams from the Raiders. The 49ers called up the Commies but the talks ended almost immediately. Lynch wanted Terry McLaurin or a first-round pick as part of the compensation. The Commies didn't want to part with McLaurin and were offering up Dotson, who the 49ers didn't want. Aiyuk had brought the Steelers to the table. The hold up with the Steelers was that they did not include players in return. Lynch tried to get Denver involved, where the Steelers would get Aiyuk for a second- and third-round pick, then flip that third-round pick for Courtland Sutton. Denver declined. They tried leaking all of their August efforts to get the Steelers to bid against themselves. That didn't work. Lynch refused to trade Aiyuk long enough for Kyle to get involved, with Kyle telling Paraag to give Aiyuk what he wanted.