Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Kyle micromanages too much to be a man-on-man throw it up deep ball coach. We really won't know until a WR like Hurd ever contributes. A 1-1 deep ball doesn't require any coaching strategy and we all know Kyle can't stand not being in control of a play.

I'm sorry man, this is a bad take. Kyle designs deep plays a lot. And every play requires some strategy

When there's 1-1 coverage and the play isn't designed for that, sometimes, the QB needs to scrap the play and throw one up.

And if it doesn't work, get yelled at but walk away with a smirk and total confidence from his WRs.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by CJ75:

Originally posted by genus49:
We'll never be a big deep ball offense but the fact that we have someone who can threaten that level of the field is a great thing. Aiyuk definitely looks like the real deal and he and Deebo should be a great combo. Like that James is getting his shot and showing big things. I know a lot of people were high on him.

Whether it's Jimmy or someone else I look forward to the moment where those guys can be properly utilized on the field together with Kittle and Mostert.

You say that when there has been a lot of talk lately that the deep ball is the missing part of what Shanny wants to run.

Kyle micromanages too much to be a man-on-man throw it up deep ball coach. We really won't know until a WR like Hurd ever contributes. A 1-1 deep ball doesn't require any coaching strategy and we all know Kyle can't stand not being in control of a play.

Kyle is an intelligent guy. Intelligent enough, I hope, to realize that he cannot utilize all available tools on the roster with the QBs he has at his disposal.
He is young and inexperienced as a HC, so his game will evolve and expand as he matures. On cannot just make a blanket statement like "we'll never . . . this or that". The long ball is a very real part of a complete offensive scheme. Especially with the way the rules are written these days. We can see how QBs coming out of college are playing and utilizing the long ball. It will eventually be a part of the team's repertoire; KS will want that as another element he can scheme around. So the team needs to grab one of those young QBs this off season. It's beginning to look like they may be well placed to do that. And there seems to be a good selection. (My favorite: Lance Whatshisname from ND State)

It'd be helpful if the team had a smart, experienced front office leader with good player evaluation skills and shrewd negotiating skills. Unfortunately, IMO the team doesn't have that. They've made poor choices and squandered draft capital. The roster is showing the effects of that inexperience and inability. the GM move was an unfortunate selection by Jed York, who always finds a way to mess up a good opportunity. Right up there with the Singletary and Tomsula hirings. IMO one doesn't hire someone with zero experience to complement a rookie. But it is what it is. And it looks like this combination will be around for a while yet.

This off-season is going to be crucial to the Niners' success over the immediate future. Going to be real interesting.

Originally posted by CJ75:

Originally posted by genus49:
We'll never be a big deep ball offense but the fact that we have someone who can threaten that level of the field is a great thing. Aiyuk definitely looks like the real deal and he and Deebo should be a great combo. Like that James is getting his shot and showing big things. I know a lot of people were high on him.

Whether it's Jimmy or someone else I look forward to the moment where those guys can be properly utilized on the field together with Kittle and Mostert.

You say that when there has been a lot of talk lately that the deep ball is the missing part of what Shanny wants to run.

Big difference between being a big deep ball offense and an offense that can hit the deep ball when needed and keep the defense off their bread and butter stuff underneath.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Kyle micromanages too much to be a man-on-man throw it up deep ball coach. We really won't know until a WR like Hurd ever contributes. A 1-1 deep ball doesn't require any coaching strategy and we all know Kyle can't stand not being in control of a play.

I'm sorry man, this is a bad take. Kyle designs deep plays a lot. And every play requires some strategy

He designs deep plays a lot, his offense and his philosophy on offense doesn't revolve about the deep game like someone like Bruce Arians. He's still a WCO coach which means the deep shots will be in the playbook but they're going to be limited in quantity simply because no matter who you have at QB/WR they're low% throws.

Look at our roster and we're not suddenly going to be dialing up bombs down the field most of the game even if we get the biggest arm in the draft.

But yes, we need a QB who can make those plays when they're called and sometimes make those plays when the original play breaks down and it becomes a scramble drill cuz the OL can't give him enough time for the original play.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CJ75:

Originally posted by genus49:
We'll never be a big deep ball offense but the fact that we have someone who can threaten that level of the field is a great thing. Aiyuk definitely looks like the real deal and he and Deebo should be a great combo. Like that James is getting his shot and showing big things. I know a lot of people were high on him.

Whether it's Jimmy or someone else I look forward to the moment where those guys can be properly utilized on the field together with Kittle and Mostert.

You say that when there has been a lot of talk lately that the deep ball is the missing part of what Shanny wants to run.

Big difference between being a big deep ball offense and an offense that can hit the deep ball when needed and keep the defense off their bread and butter stuff underneath.

The only QB who can throw deep here is CJ, but he is innacurate. Aiyuk and Richie James can both smoke defenses but the QBs can't hit them.

Aiyuk is doing better than Jeudy and Ruggs who were so hyped by the fans here. I think only Justin Jefferson and perhaps Higgins are matching his production.
Another fantastic pick, finally a great WR on round 1.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Aiyuk is doing better than Jeudy and Ruggs who were so hyped by the fans here. I think only Justin Jefferson and perhaps Higgins are matching his production.
Another fantastic pick, finally a great WR on round 1.

Jeudy has been doing pretty well imo. Aiyuk has looked very good as well...super stoked about him

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
Aiyuk is doing better than Jeudy and Ruggs who were so hyped by the fans here. I think only Justin Jefferson and perhaps Higgins are matching his production.
Another fantastic pick, finally a great WR on round 1.

Higgins is being fed like crazy. Jefferson is the standout in this class outside of Aiyuk but I'm certainly happy with our guy.

Plus Jefferson is eating a lot with Thielen on the other side and Dalvin Cook forcing stacked boxes.

The only dude that has looked more impressive than Aiyuk is Jefferson. All the other guys have the benefit of actually having a QB that throws them the ball.

The class has been as advertised, tho.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
doesn't matter, it clearly pushed your buttons enough to the point where you felt like you just HAD to chime in your recycled two cents in a irrelevant thread. be a lot different if guap was jumping around with an obligation to respond to every poster that had a differing opinion incessantly extending into off topic threads

Yeah it does matter...you attack me yet not the other posters who have a different view SO it clearly pushes your buttons.

Again there was two other posters who brought up OL/Jimmy in this thread, yet not a peep from you.

BECAUSE those posters aren't defending their opinion to anybody. they are just talking. they arent acting like you are about it. huge difference that you still cant wrap your head around

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Aiyuk is doing better than Jeudy and Ruggs who were so hyped by the fans here. I think only Justin Jefferson and perhaps Higgins are matching his production.
Another fantastic pick, finally a great WR on round 1.

A lot of this years WR class is doing quite well. We knew it was a loaded class.

Aiyuk in 8 games is at a pace that would've put him at over 1000 total yards in a 16 game season. At his current rate, he would finish this season with numbers somewhere around 775-800 yards and 5 TDs to go along with roughly 100 rushing yards and 2 TDs.

Originally posted by Heroism:

The only dude that has looked more impressive than Aiyuk is Jefferson. All the other guys have the benefit of actually having a QB that throws them the ball.

The class has been as advertised, tho.

I think Lamb was looking good with Dak. And Higgins has been a shock for me cause I didn't think he would be good at all.

Originally posted by Heroism:

The only dude that has looked more impressive than Aiyuk is Jefferson. All the other guys have the benefit of actually having a QB that throws them the ball.

The class has been as advertised, tho.

I mean Jeudy has had Drew lock/Brett Rypien/Jeff Driskel

But yes Aiyuk has been given little so far.

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

BECAUSE those posters aren't defending their opinion to anybody. they are just talking. they arent acting like you are about it. huge difference that you still cant wrap your head around

So constantly throwing out excuses on why Jimmy isn't a superstar in multiple threads isn't defending their opinion on how they feel about Jimmy? Lol riiight

Again if you're gonna constantly attack me over this, you better be doing to everyone...if not then move on.

We need to draft Zach Wilson to throw to Aiyuk and take advantage of Aiyuk's abilities deep down the field as well as the short and intermediate routes.

We cannot waste Aiyuk's talent with a QB that has a weakness in willingness and ability to throw the ball well downfield.

I think Wilson would gun it deep often.