Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Are people still mad we traded up for him? He's a stud.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
BECAUSE those posters aren't defending their opinion to anybody. they are just talking. they arent acting like you are about it. huge difference that you still cant wrap your head around

So constantly throwing out excuses on why Jimmy isn't a superstar in multiple threads isn't defending their opinion on how they feel about Jimmy? Lol riiight

Again if you're gonna constantly attack me over this, you better be doing to everyone...if not then move on.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Or an OL to give jimmy more time to at least get them the ball on most throws whe a young qb is getting ready to take over in 2022

that's excusing as to why Jimmy isn't a "superstar"? since when did he even allude to that? you really are throwing out extremes as it was pointed out.

it's their opinion. that they are expressing in a NON reactive and retaliating way. he even acknowledged for the future so it gives time for someone behind him to sit. no one asked for your rebuttal when you had nothing to do with the conversation.

I don't want a QB that needs perfection around him to be just good.

like, who f**king asked you dude? Lol

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I think Lamb was looking good with Dak. And Higgins has been a shock for me cause I didn't think he would be good at all.

For sure. The only knock on Lamb is that he's doing all his work out of the slot, which is okay but not what I expected from him.

I have a hard time saying who is better half way thru a screwed up season that's had guys put on COVID restriction and practices disrupted. It's hard to compare guys that play in different offenses with varying degrees of help. Some are prime targets and some are secondary.

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

BECAUSE those posters aren't defending their opinion to anybody. they are just talking. they arent acting like you are about it. huge difference that you still cant wrap your head around

So constantly throwing out excuses on why Jimmy isn't a superstar in multiple threads isn't defending their opinion on how they feel about Jimmy? Lol riiight

Again if you're gonna constantly attack me over this, you better be doing to everyone...if not then move on.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Or an OL to give jimmy more time to at least get them the ball on most throws whe a young qb is getting ready to take over in 2022

that's excusing as to why Jimmy isn't a "superstar"? since when did he even allude to that? you really are throwing out extremes as it was pointed out.

it's their opinion. that they are expressing in a NON reactive and retaliating way. he even acknowledged for the future so it gives time for someone behind him to sit. no one asked for your rebuttal when you had nothing to do with the conversation.

I don't want a QB that needs perfection around him to be just good.

like, who f**king asked you dude? Lol

That last question... is it rhetorical?

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
That last question... is it rhetorical?

pretty much

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

We need to draft Zach Wilson to throw to Aiyuk and take advantage of Aiyuk's abilities deep down the field as well as the short and intermediate routes.

We cannot waste Aiyuk's talent with a QB that has a weakness in willingness and ability to throw the ball well downfield.

I think Wilson would gun it deep often.

That would be amazing and I 100% agree

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:

Bro...wtf are you doing?

I love your passion but when you go in on an opinion you're rabid about it. You made it well known you want Jimmy replaced. No need to go over the top on knocking the guy.

Saying he can't get them the ball regardless of PP is crap and you know it. Considering the biggest pass everyone bashes him for was an overthrow...I'd say with more time to get their chemistry down he could make more throws than he'd miss considering that has been the case with him when he's had pass protection.

Now yes...things can't always be perfect so wanting a QB who can make plays when things break down or deliver a pass when pressured is understandable.

But beating down on Jimmy's ability with over the top statements which aren't true comes off super petty and unnecessary. The guy has done what he can for this team. Not sure why fans are so eager to turn on him.

Okay so I'm not allowed to post an opinion about one of the most important positions and biggest talking points of this team for the next yr....but other people can throw out excuses all over the forum for him Haven't seen you say "hey we get it you're a massive Jimmy supporter, but maybe don't be so rabid about it" or "Hey maybe chill out on the 100th excuse on why he's not some elite QB" to other posters?

Genus we get it you're a Jimmy guy...you support just about everyone and everything on this team. I'm like 90% there...However I'm not there with Jimmy and is overall talent as a QB. We're usually on the same page so much so, that people have called out that we're the same poster lol. Guess we can put that conspiracy to bed

I think he's a avg QB who played a part on a great roster in 2019. He managed the structure of the game and did what Kyle asked of him...I give him props for that. SF dominated the run game, defense and stayed ahead of the chains more than just about any team last yr...that's a recipe for success for a lot of QBs.

I don't see him as some elite QB overall. This roster is NOT gonna be the same team in 2021 as it was in 2019. Do you think he will make the team a WHOLE LOT better? Because he's gonna have to with that contract, lack of funds, and guys leaving.

Throwing out blanket statements like if PP was better he'd be better is stupid...no s**t, ANY QB is gonna be better if they have a clean pocket all game. IMO it's not gonna change his mechanics, arm talent, & decision making overall.

Agreed. Which is why I wouldn't have said anything to you if you just pointed that out.

I just don't understand why you have to go the other extreme and make statements like the one I quoted? You said he can't get them the ball regardless of pass protection and then respond saying well yeah every QB is better with pass protection.

Them saying Jimmy would be better with improved pass protection is accurate, you yourself just established that with the bolded comment.

You saying Jimmy can't get them the ball regardless of better pass protection is an overblown statement which you KNOW isn't accurate. This isn't Tim Tebow. Jimmy completed more passes than he missed and he had his share of big plays last year when called upon.

Put it this way, I agree with your overall point but your delivery is over the top and unnecessary. You may argue it's semantics and maybe it is but when you're trying to make your point over the top statements which aren't honest or truthful take away from your point.

100% good post. We can all agree that eventually Jimmy should probably be replaced. However I would prefer to let jimmy start next year and lose a few players like Tartt and Coleman here and there to prioritize the best resignings. Jimmy with a somewhat healthy team will get us to the SB especially with a healthy D (not including Dee Ford) while the rookie learns

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
That last question... is it rhetorical?

Originally posted by elguapo:
100% good post. We can all agree that eventually Jimmy should probably be replaced. However I would prefer to let jimmy start next year and lose a few players like Tartt and Coleman here and there to prioritize the best resignings. Jimmy with a somewhat healthy team will get us to the SB especially with a healthy D (not including Dee Ford) while the rookie learns

That's fair and it's your opinion...I don't want you to feel like I'm trying to be an a*****e to you. I'm not. I totally disagree that Jimmy should be on the team next yr and I actually doubt he will be.

You gotta understand it's not just a "few players" it's over 30 guys. They might have enough cash to possibly resign Trent Williams and that's about it. What about not having a single CB? what about Juice? what about RG/C? what about SS? What about EDGE? What about depth in general (we clearly need it)? What about improving at positions that we're currently having problems with? Moving Jimmy frees up around $50M in cap space in 2021/2022. That's a lot of cash.

We all loved 2019, we were excited and almost took it all the way...if we could draft a rookie QB, keep Jimmy, AND have a roster as good as 2019 I think everyone would be down for that...reality is COVID f**ked the cap space. Reality is that's not possible. Tough decisions will have to be made. Matt Miacco has eluded to this as well.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
Aiyuk is doing better than Jeudy and Ruggs who were so hyped by the fans here. I think only Justin Jefferson and perhaps Higgins are matching his production.
Another fantastic pick, finally a great WR on round 1.

Jeudy has been doing pretty well imo. Aiyuk has looked very good as well...super stoked about him

Have the habitual dropsies been resolved with him the past few weeks?

Not to hammer on his Wonderlic or anything,...but all else being even, I think we're maybe able to say Aiyuk has more room for growth and perhaps Kyle was right about the choice.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
That last question... is it rhetorical?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's fair and it's your opinion...I don't want you to feel like I'm trying to be an a*****e to you. I'm not. I totally disagree that Jimmy should be on the team next yr and I actually doubt he will be.

You gotta understand it's not just a "few players" it's over 30 guys. They might have enough cash to possibly resign Trent Williams and that's about it. What about not having a single CB? what about Juice? what about RG/C? what about SS? What about EDGE? What about depth in general (we clearly need it)? What about improving at positions that we're currently having problems with? Moving Jimmy frees up around $50M in cap space in 2021/2022. That's a lot of cash.

We all loved 2019, we were excited and almost took it all the way...if we could draft a rookie QB, keep Jimmy, AND have a roster as good as 2019 I think everyone would be down for that...reality is COVID f**ked the cap space. Reality is that's not possible. Tough decisions will have to be made. Matt Miacco has eluded to this as well.

Good post NY!

And he's done this with an injured Jimmy and backup QB the entire season so far.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by CJ75:

Originally posted by genus49:

We'll never be a big deep ball offense but the fact that we have someone who can threaten that level of the field is a great thing. Aiyuk definitely looks like the real deal and he and Deebo should be a great combo. Like that James is getting his shot and showing big things. I know a lot of people were high on him.

Whether it's Jimmy or someone else I look forward to the moment where those guys can be properly utilized on the field together with Kittle and Mostert.

You say that when there has been a lot of talk lately that the deep ball is the missing part of what Shanny wants to run.

This. Maiocco eluded to this yesterday. Kyle what's the big plays, both in YAC and the deep ball. His ATL offense had big plays a lot... that was his best functioning offense

Exactly. 2016 Atlanta shows the Kyle wants an offense capable of anything. Talent will dictate a lot. I hope we do a major upgrade at pass protection.