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Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

I knew that play had something cooked up way downfield and that Deebo was not the intended target.
Playcall A+
Execution F-

With Kittle in we win this game Dwelley couldn't hold up but that was a td for sure

All we needed was either Dwelley to hold his block longer without a penalty, or Jimmy to maneuver up and away from the pass rusher even slightly, and there was an opportunity for a big play. Jimmy is terrible at moving in the pocket and keeping his eyes downfield.

I agree but for all of these people claiming that Brandon isn't the same player as last year that's all fine however they have to admit that he was open at will in the second half. Unbelievable, he's not a bust he just isn't getting the ball thrown to him. At least Mullens would pull the trigger and that's saying a lot. Jimmy will not. BA is a good wr, Who the hell has the standard that all receivers have to get separation on a lot of their plays.

This guy has proven he can catch while being covered and he also gets separation and has incredible yards after the catch ability. Fact remains, he still is a good receiver he is just not getting targeted.
Originally posted by elguapo:
I agree but for all of these people claiming that Brandon isn't the same player as last year that's all fine however they have to admit that he was open at will in the second half. Unbelievable, he's not a bust he just isn't getting the ball thrown to him. At least Mullens would pull the trigger and that's saying a lot. Jimmy will not. BA is a good wr, Who the hell has the standard that all receivers have to get separation on a lot of their plays.

This guy has proven he can catch while being covered and he also gets separation and has incredible yards after the catch ability. Fact remains, he still is a good receiver he is just not getting targeted.

I agree. There was a stat a couple weeks ago that people pointed to saying "see? He's only getting 1.8 yards of separation on average. That's not good!" Meanwhile, Jamarr Chase was dominating the league with 1.9 yards of separation on average.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by elguapo:
I agree but for all of these people claiming that Brandon isn't the same player as last year that's all fine however they have to admit that he was open at will in the second half. Unbelievable, he's not a bust he just isn't getting the ball thrown to him. At least Mullens would pull the trigger and that's saying a lot. Jimmy will not. BA is a good wr, Who the hell has the standard that all receivers have to get separation on a lot of their plays.

This guy has proven he can catch while being covered and he also gets separation and has incredible yards after the catch ability. Fact remains, he still is a good receiver he is just not getting targeted.

I agree. There was a stat a couple weeks ago that people pointed to saying "see? He's only getting 1.8 yards of separation on average. That's not good!" Meanwhile, Jamarr Chase was dominating the league with 1.9 yards of separation on average.

Exactly. People really have no idea what they're talking about. At least look at the film before making some of those statements
Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's a step in the right direction


"doghouse"
Im still ridin for BA. I think hes a baller honestly.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's a step in the right direction


Maybe because Deebo was out today.
WILL the NFL allow the Jets to send us a 1st rounder for Shanahan and Deebo?
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Originally posted by hubbyt:
Im still ridin for BA. I think hes a baller honestly.

Yeah, he got hurt early on and is just now healthy. I'd be frustrated, too. He's fine and will break out versus the Bears.
I keep hearing that this guy is in some "doghouse" but I'm not getting specifics as to why. From what I see when he's on the field he's getting open, he's just not getting targeted. His rout running looks decent. He's the deep threat that we need. We spent a 1st on him. He looked spectacular in his rookie season. So I'd like to be educated as to specifically what this guy is doing wrong.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
The problem wasn't the QB. The problem was the blocking design. If you are going to through the ball down the field, you don't have your TE one-on-one with a DE. That is a mismatch for any TE in the league not named George Kittle. With the OL slanting left to set up PA to the left with Mitchell, there was no help for Dwelley on a very difficult block.

There is nothing wrong with holding in an extra blocker to allow time to make a good throw. The blocking call killed that play before it ever started.

I refuse to believe the problem with Aiyuk is lack of production in practice. He did too well in his rookie year for me to believe that story. IMO, the problem is a relatively inexperienced WR coach (Wes Welker) and a system that is set up to run the ball first and throw it as a second option. Put Aiyuk in Bruce Arians' system and he is a Pro Bowl receiver every year.

Hard to say for sure. I could easily bring up the idea that Jimmy should have stopped much earlier than he did, and if he did, Dwelley would have had inside position on the block and Jimmy would have had time to throw. I dont know how far Jimmy is taught to run, but it still could have worked had he pulled up a few steps earlier.

I agree with the last paragraph completely though.

Yes, it looks like Jimmy might have pulled up sooner. However, that might not be the way it was coached. Again, we don't know. What we do know is that Kyle does not set up many shot plays down the field. The reason for that is not BA, IMO.

B- Right. I acknowledged that fact too saying I am not sure how far Jimmy is taught to run.

I- I also agree with this. That is why it is so maddening to me when in the Jimmy thread that people claim that he doesnt have a deep threat on this team. BS! We have plenty of deep threats on this team. The problem is at times the line doesnt hold up for long enough and other times, our QB doesnt give the play long enough to develop. The latter, being one of my biggest pet peeves about QBing.

to me it looks like the PA was supposed to get the DE to crash down w/ Dwelley (or usually Kittle) use that momentum and block the end down (our left) - letting the QB roll-out. once the DE saw that jimmy kept it, he QUICKLY got outside leverage on dwelley and forced jimmy to stop the rollout and try to step up, but dwelley got beat so bad the play was dead. works w kittle but jesus christ if he is out why not put in a 6th lineman as eligible, you are running PA, it might even HELP get the DE to bite on the run.

Back to my theory that kyle is in panic and not thinking clearly...
Originally posted by 9moon:
WILL the NFL allow the Jets to send us a 1st rounder for Shanahan and Deebo?

Prefer to send you to the Jets fans for fireman Ed
Originally posted by mtl_49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
The problem wasn't the QB. The problem was the blocking design. If you are going to through the ball down the field, you don't have your TE one-on-one with a DE. That is a mismatch for any TE in the league not named George Kittle. With the OL slanting left to set up PA to the left with Mitchell, there was no help for Dwelley on a very difficult block.

There is nothing wrong with holding in an extra blocker to allow time to make a good throw. The blocking call killed that play before it ever started.

I refuse to believe the problem with Aiyuk is lack of production in practice. He did too well in his rookie year for me to believe that story. IMO, the problem is a relatively inexperienced WR coach (Wes Welker) and a system that is set up to run the ball first and throw it as a second option. Put Aiyuk in Bruce Arians' system and he is a Pro Bowl receiver every year.

Hard to say for sure. I could easily bring up the idea that Jimmy should have stopped much earlier than he did, and if he did, Dwelley would have had inside position on the block and Jimmy would have had time to throw. I dont know how far Jimmy is taught to run, but it still could have worked had he pulled up a few steps earlier.

I agree with the last paragraph completely though.

Yes, it looks like Jimmy might have pulled up sooner. However, that might not be the way it was coached. Again, we don't know. What we do know is that Kyle does not set up many shot plays down the field. The reason for that is not BA, IMO.

B- Right. I acknowledged that fact too saying I am not sure how far Jimmy is taught to run.

I- I also agree with this. That is why it is so maddening to me when in the Jimmy thread that people claim that he doesnt have a deep threat on this team. BS! We have plenty of deep threats on this team. The problem is at times the line doesnt hold up for long enough and other times, our QB doesnt give the play long enough to develop. The latter, being one of my biggest pet peeves about QBing.

to me it looks like the PA was supposed to get the DE to crash down w/ Dwelley (or usually Kittle) use that momentum and block the end down (our left) - letting the QB roll-out. once the DE saw that jimmy kept it, he QUICKLY got outside leverage on dwelley and forced jimmy to stop the rollout and try to step up, but dwelley got beat so bad the play was dead. works w kittle but jesus christ if he is out why not put in a 6th lineman as eligible, you are running PA, it might even HELP get the DE to bite on the run.

Back to my theory that kyle is in panic and not thinking clearly...

I hate to beat a dead horse, but if this is his idea of trying to step up, then he isnt very good. There was plenty of room to slide up in the pocket he created by rolling right, and he simply didnt do it. A good QB slides up in the pocket and makes this play.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I hate to beat a dead horse, but if this is his idea of trying to step up, then he isnt very good. There was plenty of room to slide up in the pocket he created by rolling right, and he simply didnt do it. A good QB slides up in the pocket and makes this play.
Let's go Brandon!
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I keep hearing that this guy is in some "doghouse" but I'm not getting specifics as to why. From what I see when he's on the field he's getting open, he's just not getting targeted. His rout running looks decent. He's the deep threat that we need. We spent a 1st on him. He looked spectacular in his rookie season. So I'd like to be educated as to specifically what this guy is doing wrong.

Dont waste your time. We know BA can play! All some people in the zone are gonna do is cherry pick 4 or 5 plays when he didnt beat his man by 3 yards or run the perfect route ..you know, things that every WR in the NFL does at times. BA is expected to win every route, make every block and beat every db by 4 yards every play to be worthy of targets LOL. In other words, form your own conclusion this group will steer you where they wanna steer you if you let em.
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