Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by Midbay:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Great post Phoenix, I guess that's one way of looking at it.

I just wonder why this isn't working with Pettis & Goodwin?

Difference in skillsets. Ball skills and vision are a thing, like why Trent Richardson flushed out of the NFL. Goodwin is more of a pure speed guy, not super skilled as a receiver. Pettis has the talent but there's something above the neck that seems to be limiting him. In anycase, Aiyuk shows a lot more aggressiveness and physicality than Pettis ever did in college.

Then we have a problem in evaluating WR's? So is it Lynch or Shanahan?

I mean we not only grabbed Goodwin in free agency, we extended his contract. Same person also moved up to draft Pettis in round 2.

Goodwin (F/A), Sanders (F/A), Pettis, James, Deebo, Trent Taylor, Hurd, and Benjamin (F/A).

Now we move up to draft Aiyuk in round 1 and you believe we got it right?

I hope so

Answer to #1 is "no" in my book. Goodwin was never really intended to be more than a role player during the rebuild, and Pettis is very talented but seems to have checked out mentally. Kyle has pretty clearly learned and changed the way he approaches the position. Deebo and Sanders are combinations of talent, desire, toughness and love for the game. Hurd may be injured but he is fits those criteria. Aiyuk seems to fit that as well. May have been an early problem, but Kyle and Lynch seem to have changed to accommodate lessons learned. Don't see a problem with either of them... or Aiyuk!

Why we hit on Deebo and possibly Hurd is because the niners got spend so much time with them than we most other teams do during the Senior Bowl which we coached.

Lynch said as much. He said, he also doesn't recommend that approach. The downside is that if you get to coach them, then you must have sucked (I am paraphrasing here-haha).

So like people have said, nothing wrong with the skill in Pettis, it is the attitude. Even with Aldon had the skill and the initial attitude, then he went and got psycho into a downward trend.

Even with a good psychologist, it is still hard to get into what makes a person tick, to know their drive.

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
That's absolutely ridiculous. Just because a person is into cats and has an odd hair color choice doesn't mean they lack toughness. There isn't anyway Kyle would have known that. Especially after year 1. All of us were excited for Pettis. Athletes go thru mental lapses. It happens. Now will he fix it and come in ready to play that's the question. But to flat out rule him out would be idiotic.

Agreed, there so many players that have hobbies or fashion sense or whatever, that make you go what, but that kick ass in sports, but people just don't know it.
There is no way. When it comes to the field of battle you can't tell.

Originally posted by miked1978:
Why are we so quick to blame someone? Every GM, coach, and scout misses on more players than they get right.

Geez we have a loaded team I don't think we have a problem.

I agree, but it is because niner fans have draft crushes and get mad because of the perceived slight, that they were not listened to. As successful as Bill Walsh was, many today would be gassing him.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Not sure if Deebo was ever a RB

He was.

Deebo is 15 pounds heavier than aiyuk -- 201 v 216.

He also looks like he's actually 6' tall.

Originally posted by krizay:
Yes and no. I loved this pick and was excited. The trade up i didnt LOVE but it didn't bother me too much. It was not trading down further at 13 that had me tossing and turning.

I was thinking the same, then they said that the chatter was that the Dolphins were going to pick him at 26. Mad sense, they pick Tua and need to get him targets to throw to.

Originally posted by maxsmart:
That is the one problem with ShanaLynch. They don't seem to understand pick value very well.
Overpaid trading up for Pettis and Aiyuk
Over-drafted and over-paid for several players like CJ Beathard, Joe Williams, Solomon Thomas, Tried to trade up for Reuben Foster starting at pick 14, Jalen Hurd, Mitch Wishnowsky, Dante Pettis, Tarvarius Moore, Kentavius Street,

Also over-paid a bit for some free agents

Chatter was the Dolphins at 26 was going to draft him.

As far as Lynch and Shanahan, they scrapped the team pretty much and built it up and got to the SB. Look at how many teams in the NFL never get that done. Also, look at the teams that did get value for their picks, but still sucked and never even made the playoffs. NOBODY bats a .750 much less a 1.000. You are doing good to get .500. In case you didn't hear and was under a rock-it is known that they wanted to trade back further in Solomon's case, but you can't trade if no one wants to dance with you! Wish- again their was talk that there were other teams looking at him in the 5th. He has done well for us with hang times and funny punts in case you didn't notice. While he hasn't gotten the yardage net, then again he didn't have to boom it.

Moore-I chalk that up to coaches screwing up his development by making him play out of position. Street hasn't had a chance to prove himself. You forgot what Walsh did, he picked up several DL players in the draft that had injuries that played well. Hurd, if he wasn't hurt, he would have proven a good pick.

If you go too much on value based on yahoos like Kiper and others, you never build a winning team. You go on what you value for the system you have implemented.

Incredibly stoked about this kid. Adam Peters had a great breakdown of why they coveted him so much but it takes 5 seconds of film to see how he'd fit in here primarily at X.

He sure had a tough upbringing. No water or electricity.

https://twitter.com/tommy_III/status/1253505826897055744?s=20

I have read and heard Aiyuk compared to many different wr. Steve Smith of NFL network said he talked to tj-houshmandzadeh who worked with Aiyuk during the fall. Said he sees Chad Johnson in him.

TJ worked with him just on release, separation and fighting press cover.

He also said, he thought that Jeudy was the best receiver coming out of the draft based on the film he saw, how he created separation and his release, never worked with him. but after working with Aiyuk, that Aiyuk was just as good, not almost, but just as good. However, as he said he never got to work with Jeudy. He also said he can fly, just watch the film. They didn't work on route running just release, sep, and fighting press coverage. He said coupled with him in Shanahan's offensive scheme, he can't wait to see it.

Biggest concern, is knowing the scheme and getting reps.

On his review of the first round, Chris Simms talked a lot about Aiyuk with Paul Burmeister.
One month before the draft, Paul talked with some high ranking guys in the league in preparation for Simms´s WR rankings.
Apparently, after they talked about the 3 or 4 best WRs in the draft, Aiyuk was always the player that everybody had an eye on.
Simms basically knew that Kyle absolutely loved Aiyuk and saw him as a new Isaac Bruce.
Aiyuk was also the WR that in the last few days before the draft kept rising in Teams draft board even in the top 3 conversation.
Simms said that he didn´t put Aiyuk in his mock draft because he didn´t want to screw Kyle.

Well, we see but Kyle is really a big fan of Aiyuk.

Originally posted by saniner:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Why are they so in love with short smurfs? They just love these under 6'0" WR'S. You can't have 1 WR who is tall on the whole team?

Aiyuk is 6ft tall

Actually 5'11" and change.

Smurfs have won SBs.

If they catch and move the chains and score who cares. OBJ, Tyrek, Antonio Brown, TY Hilton, just to name a few are less than 6'

Most WR that are tall, are usually stiff.

BTW-Hurd is 6'4" Bourne 6'1"

Originally posted by dirtyrottenscoundrel:

Originally posted by badguy_1:
Another disappointment. This dude is barely 6 ft and not nearly as good as Mims.

Has a one inch reach less than the 6-5 Megatron. He'll be fine I think.

Mims is stiff and he drops the ball a lot. Also his route running needs a lot of work. When he goes in the game, you don't expect him to do jet sweeps, he is not shifty and quick-fast but not quick. He will be defended as a wr and just worried about the deep ball. You draft to your scheme, just like rb position.

Aiyuk is a lot faster than given credit for, look at the films and videos.

Yes megatron has 82' wingspan at 6'5" and Aiyuk has 81" ws at just a tad under 6'

Dude should be able to make shoe string catches w/o bending over much and breaking much stride-haha.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Joecool:
OBJ comparison?

Kinda. I think he's probably a better YAC Emmanuel Sanders.

He says he models his game to OBJ, been compared to Sanders and Antonio Brown.

People keep looking at players in the traditional sense. As most know by now, Kyle wants position less players or multi-positional players. Hurd, Deebo, Juz, Aiyuk, Coleman, McK, even Kittle.

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by saniner:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Why are they so in love with short smurfs? They just love these under 6'0" WR'S. You can't have 1 WR who is tall on the whole team?

Aiyuk is 6ft tall

Actually 5'11" and change.

Smurfs have won SBs.

If they catch and move the chains and score who cares. OBJ, Tyrek, Antonio Brown, TY Hilton, just to name a few are less than 6'

Most WR that are tall, are usually stiff.

BTW-Hurd is 6'4" Bourne 6'1"

He is six feet tall in platform kleats

Originally posted by pdc20:

On his review of the first round, Chris Simms talked a lot about Aiyuk with Paul Burmeister.
One month before the draft, Paul talked with some high ranking guys in the league in preparation for Simms´s WR rankings.
Apparently, after they talked about the 3 or 4 best WRs in the draft, Aiyuk was always the player that everybody had an eye on.
Simms basically knew that Kyle absolutely loved Aiyuk and saw him as a new Isaac Bruce.
Aiyuk was also the WR that in the last few days before the draft kept rising in Teams draft board even in the top 3 conversation.
Simms said that he didn´t put Aiyuk in his mock draft because he didn´t want to screw Kyle.

Well, we see but Kyle is really a big fan of Aiyuk.

Simms might be bullsh*tting, but if he's telling the truth!

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by saniner:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Why are they so in love with short smurfs? They just love these under 6'0" WR'S. You can't have 1 WR who is tall on the whole team?

Aiyuk is 6ft tall

Actually 5'11" and change.

Smurfs have won SBs.

If they catch and move the chains and score who cares. OBJ, Tyrek, Antonio Brown, TY Hilton, just to name a few are less than 6'

Most WR that are tall, are usually stiff.

BTW-Hurd is 6'4" Bourne 6'1"

He is six feet tall in platform kleats

He's got better reach than some 6'5 guys.