Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Earning his money next year by having the consistent hands to jump start the offense. He's been better lately than earlier in the season.

Sadly I think if someone has to go it will need to be deebo because ayuik is the better receiver. He's also more clutch at coming up with plays to start the offense and deliver when the pass is there.

He's cleaned the drops up to props to him from earlier.

Between Yuk and Debo which skillet is easier to replace? They would be Yuk. Debo is so unique and his style with our offense works really well with CMC as the other interchangeable offensive weapon.

You make a valid point but after watching closely at what Kyle is doing with Aiyuk in the PHI game, it is more clear to me how important Aiyuk is to this offense. I agree Deebo has the more unique skillset when you consider all NFL players. I can make an argument as to why, even if Deebo is the player more difficult to replace because of his unique skillset, Aiyuk is the player with the more useful skillset, even if Aiyuk's skillset can be found more frequently around the league. Fact is, the 49ers currently only have one guy that can do what Aiyuk does.

What the 49ers are able to do with Aiyuk, a WR that can win 1on1s when placed on an island, opens up so much for the offense. The 49ers can go 4x1 with Aiyuk being the '1', all alone on his side of the field. This puts split safety defenses in a bind (Quarters) because putting 4 route runners to one side of the formation floods a split safety zone coverage. If that '1' isn't a threat to win, then this method of attacking Quarters falls apart. Aiyuk is that proven 'X' split end wide receiver that demands safety help or else he's going to win that 1 on 1. In the PHI game, the 49ers would go 4x1 and PHI would stay in zone but shift to single high. (I still need to watch more to be sure of this).

The whole point of using split safety coverages is to get 3 defenders versus 2 WRs to one side of the field, and 4v3 to the other side. When an offense goes 4x1, this defense doesn't work. But in order for an offense to effectively go 4x1, that Split End (Aiyuk) needs to win.

I hope jonnydel can cut up some of the 4x1 sets the 49ers used.

This team is absolutely stacked. I've been recording every game and savoring every minute of this season, because we will look back one day at this team arguably being the most talented the Niners have ever had.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
This is a big game, I want to see him make big impact and big catches come Sunday.

Didn't show out too hard on the stat sheet, but from my previous post he did exactly what I wanted. Big time catches for big 1st down and that first td catch that started it all! Nice Job BA.

Nvm

BA got him a thing now

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Earning his money next year by having the consistent hands to jump start the offense. He's been better lately than earlier in the season.

Sadly I think if someone has to go it will need to be deebo because ayuik is the better receiver. He's also more clutch at coming up with plays to start the offense and deliver when the pass is there.

He's cleaned the drops up to props to him from earlier.

Between Yuk and Debo which skillet is easier to replace? They would be Yuk. Debo is so unique and his style with our offense works really well with CMC as the other interchangeable offensive weapon.

Yeah he may have a more unique skillet but having that player has rarely been essential to move the needle as a good route runner is.

Look at the past ones with Percy harvin, tayvon Austin, cordarrelle Paterson. Those guys didn't put their teams over the top. And they had more opportunities than deebo gets with CMC on the team.

Yuk may be easier to replace his skillet but he's more valuable imo. Shanahan is all about the scheme which means the route running needs to be as good as possible.

If for instance we played more downhill football where we pounded half the carries with mason and half to CMC and we just screened and chipped all day to deebo and kittle to go along with it, I might change my mind on the order.

The way shanahan schemes though and purdy looks down field first with anticipation throws it's better for a wr to be where he needs to be than to be a sloppy route running bruiser...

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
BA got him a thing now

Brock Purdy 13 beanie ?

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Earning his money next year by having the consistent hands to jump start the offense. He's been better lately than earlier in the season.

Sadly I think if someone has to go it will need to be deebo because ayuik is the better receiver. He's also more clutch at coming up with plays to start the offense and deliver when the pass is there.

He's cleaned the drops up to props to him from earlier.

Between Yuk and Debo which skillet is easier to replace? They would be Yuk. Debo is so unique and his style with our offense works really well with CMC as the other interchangeable offensive weapon.

Yeah he may have a more unique skillet but having that player has rarely been essential to move the needle as a good route runner is.

The way shanahan schemes though and purdy looks down field first with anticipation throws it's better for a wr to be where he needs to be than to be a sloppy route running bruiser...

Could not agree more with the value of great rout runners for young QBs..... ESPECIALLY Brock Purdy.

With a young QB, that has ultra rare anticipation like Brock.....having a dude be where he is suppose to be...when he is suppose to be there is absolutely critical. You want a dude who come hell or high-water hits his marks when he is suppose to.

However that is something that teams routinely draft.

To me personally, you trade BA 10 of 10 times before you let Deebo walk. I love BA, I want us to draft a backup to BA and have said it a 100 times in the NY game thread and on Deebo's thread. You gotta have a BA type with Brock, preferably 2 BAs and put Deebo in the slot and motion him all over gods creation.

I think BA is a tad more replaceable then some think, and I think Deebo adds more in a game the ball is never throw in his direction then some think. Any time a defense starts it's work week thinking..."ok,,,we gotta know where this dude is every down and match that" you have a uber valuable player.

Originally posted by Dshearn:
Could not agree more with the value of great rout runners for young QBs..... ESPECIALLY Brock Purdy.

With a young QB, that has ultra rare anticipation like Brock.....having a dude be where he is suppose to be...when he is suppose to be there is absolutely critical. You want a dude who come hell or high-water hits his marks when he is suppose to.

However that is something that teams routinely draft.

To me personally, you trade BA 10 of 10 times before you let Deebo walk. I love BA, I want us to draft a backup to BA and have said it a 100 times in the NY game thread and on Deebo's thread. You gotta have a BA type with Brock, preferably 2 BAs and put Deebo in the slot and motion him all over gods creation.

I think BA is a tad more replaceable then some think, and I think Deebo adds more in a game the ball is never throw in his direction then some think. Any time a defense starts it's work week thinking..."ok,,,we gotta know where this dude is every down and match that" you have a uber valuable player.

I agree with 90% of what you said. And in no way is deebo over aiyuk over deebo a shot on either player.

However...
While Deebo's skillset is harder to find(big physical bully with RAC) his impact is easier to replace. You do not need a powerful runner, you can go small quick while BA, Kittle, and Juaunhhandle the physical side.

I think they sign BA long term this off-season, this offense might be the best ever in SF, and the chemistry between Brock and BA and Deebo, you don't mess wit that and I'm sure Kyle doesn't want to develop another receiver. Will probably lose Juan though, someone else, (Ran Carthon?) will give him big money. They keep Aiyuk at the expense of another position, maybe DE, or OG. He's become too important to the offense, Paraag fits him in

I'm tired of the Deebo vs. Aiyuk talks. We are keeping both. Having both is a nightmare of defenses and its not impossible to keep both. We can do what we do because of the focus teams have on Deebo and CMC. Even Deebo's short passes and runs that don't seem to gain much, attract the attention of defenses and coordinators because they are terrified of a game like the one he had against Philly. He also produces big in big moments not to mention other intangibles he brings.

Aiyuk is the man coverage beater, the guy I expect to consistently have good games, particularly if we can improve the OL from C.to RT. Brock already shreds defenses with an O-line ranked in the 20s. Get that thing to like 12th and we will score 28 on a bad day. Given what Brock can do, Aiyuk can blast off into the stratosphere here, in spite in not having numbers equal to the other top receivers. I see a guy that can put up 1200 + yards on 60 to 70 catches (which isn't a lot) for years to come.

I think the hard decision point will be at the end of Deebo's contract.
But if Bell and Gray look good attacking the intermediate and a team offers great value, say top 10 for BA this year. They have to weigh it and resign Jennings if they do. Or in 2 years Deebo for a top 20 value.

At some point, you have to trust Purdy to make quality WRs good. And i do not want his prime to be the Saints right now.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Brock Purdy 13 beanie ?

Naa, Brandon 11 beanie maybe

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Earning his money next year by having the consistent hands to jump start the offense. He's been better lately than earlier in the season.

Sadly I think if someone has to go it will need to be deebo because ayuik is the better receiver. He's also more clutch at coming up with plays to start the offense and deliver when the pass is there.

He's cleaned the drops up to props to him from earlier.

Between Yuk and Debo which skillet is easier to replace? They would be Yuk. Debo is so unique and his style with our offense works really well with CMC as the other interchangeable offensive weapon.

Yeah he may have a more unique skillet but having that player has rarely been essential to move the needle as a good route runner is.

The way shanahan schemes though and purdy looks down field first with anticipation throws it's better for a wr to be where he needs to be than to be a sloppy route running bruiser...

Could not agree more with the value of great rout runners for young QBs..... ESPECIALLY Brock Purdy.

With a young QB, that has ultra rare anticipation like Brock.....having a dude be where he is suppose to be...when he is suppose to be there is absolutely critical. You want a dude who come hell or high-water hits his marks when he is suppose to.

However that is something that teams routinely draft.

To me personally, you trade BA 10 of 10 times before you let Deebo walk. I love BA, I want us to draft a backup to BA and have said it a 100 times in the NY game thread and on Deebo's thread. You gotta have a BA type with Brock, preferably 2 BAs and put Deebo in the slot and motion him all over gods creation.

I think BA is a tad more replaceable then some think, and I think Deebo adds more in a game the ball is never throw in his direction then some think. Any time a defense starts it's work week thinking..."ok,,,we gotta know where this dude is every down and match that" you have a uber valuable player.

There were so many plays where Deebo was just running around, almost like a look at me type of deal. And because of the threat, an entire defense HAS to pay attention to him. I'd love if Danny Gray could emerge to be that other guy. Between having BA + Gray or another receiver on the outside and Deebo in the slot, an upgrades at OL, the floor for this offense may be 28 to 31 ppg. Its exciting thinking about it.

BA seemed to have a rough day with the INT play, then the fumble, but then if you see his stat line, dude was a boss as usual.

On the replay of Deebo's TD you can see BA celebrating as Deebo caught the ball, it just proves more how great these guys are and how much chemistry this roster has.

Truly one of the greatest Niner teams of all time!!!

Re-sign him before he gets enticed to go to KC.