Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by All22:
Crabtree was the best overall WR in that draft. He just had a messed up QB situation.

Not that I disagree, but Mike Wallace has more career receiving yards and TDs, and unlike Crabs, he actually made a Pro Bowl in his career. Julian Edelman will probably eclipse Crabtree's career numbers (except for TDs) in the next 2 years also, barring injury and/or release.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
To me there's a Grand Canyon hole between Javon Kinlaw and the next group of defensive tackles. There's little to no difference in Lamb and Aiyuk. Other then height Aiyuk beats Lamb in every measurable. The 40 time is easily explainable with the core muscle injury. Take Aiyuk and put him in Oklahoma's offense and take Lamb and put him Arizona St offense and I guarantee you that scouts would have Aiyuk ranked about Lamb come draft time.

You're probably right. WRs and QBs are really dependent on each other and both can have inflated or diminished numbers depending on what system their college ran.

I was big on Aiyuk before the draft but I still think Lamb was the better overall player.

I just think it's so funny how Ruggs, Jeudy, Lamb, and Jefferson all had QB's drafted high and no one cared to factor that in.

If Ruggs or Jeudy was at Arizona State, I guarantee you people would think they are 2nd round picks because the draft experts wouldn't be as familiar with them.

Not at all, if Ruggs or Jeudy went to North Dakota St. I would've picked them at #13. Even Chris Simms who has been right on both of Shahana's drafts (Thomas and McGlinchey) thought Ruggs was going to be the pick. Ruggs is just that good, you can't teach speed and he's a pretty solid route runner too.

The issue is the pro system they play in at Alabama that will help their transition and the fact they wouldn't be the same player or stats,

In that sense, i'm not saying their overall ranking within the class isn't justified because it is. They are safer prospects because of the system they played in.

But you can't argue that playing at Alabama, LSU, and Oklahoma with the top QB prospects didn't sway everyone's WR rankings in their favor.



Simms said here that Kyle said he 100% considered Aiyuk at 13. Where did he say the same thing about Ruggs?

If you watch people breakdown Ruggs and Jeudy's play, you'll see that it had nothing to do with who their QB's were and more about the way they ran their routes, separation quickness and speed.

And Chris Simms said it during the draft right before the 9ers picked. Didn't you watch the draft??

I don't think Ruggs was their priority. Shanahan wants a versatile receiver that can play outside and inside at a high level. Another Sanders, another Garcon, what they wanted out of Dante Pettis, and ideally Odell Beckham JR. I don't think Ruggs really fits that mold. Also even if it's not saying much about their own board they did say they thought Jeudy and Lamb were going to be the first receivers off the board.

Simms said that Kyle was laser focus on Aiyuk before the draft to the point that Chris couldn´t put him in his mock draft.
Kyle even asked him about taking Aiyuk at 13.
But that doesn´t mean Kyle didn´t want Ruggs.
I mean, maybe Kyle didn´t think Ruggs would be there at 13. That´s what he thought about Kinlaw.
When you see Ruggs play, I have a hard time thinking he doesn´t fit this offense. He´s excellent on slant and yac also.

Time will tell if Kyle was right on his assessment of Aiyuk being better than Jeudy and Lamb, we can only sit back and enjoy or be disappointed in the ride

Originally posted by pdc20:
Simms said that Kyle was laser focus on Aiyuk before the draft to the point that Chris couldn´t put him in his mock draft.
Kyle even asked him about taking Aiyuk at 13.
But that doesn´t mean Kyle didn´t want Ruggs.
I mean, maybe Kyle didn´t think Ruggs would be there at 13. That´s what he thought about Kinlaw.
When you see Ruggs play, I have a hard time thinking he doesn´t fit this offense. He´s excellent on slant and yac also.

Only Chris Simms DID put Ruggs in his final Mock Draft going to the 9ers at pick #20.

How is he in comparison to Crabtree as a prospect ?

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Time will tell if Kyle was right on his assessment of Aiyuk being better than Jeudy and Lamb, we can only sit back and enjoy or be disappointed in the ride

Yeah, just sit back and watch it play out.

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

How is he in comparison to Crabtree as a prospect ?

Interesting question, I'd say they have similar smoothness and RAC ability, but Aiyuk has better top end speed. Crabtree was probably more productive, having won the Biletnikoff. Crabtree was probably more well-rounded coming out, but I think Aiyuk is pretty well rounded himself and more dynamic/explosive than Crabtree. For example I don't think Crab returned kicks or punts in college. With the benefit of hindsight I think Aiyuk's ceiling is higher than what Crabs eventually was.

Crabtree had no top end speed - at least Aiyuk has some speed.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by All22:
Crabtree was the best overall WR in that draft. He just had a messed up QB situation.

Alex Smith has shown to be a pro bowl level QB in this league. We were so incompetent those years. If we drafted Rodgers we woulda f**ked him up too.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by All22:
Crabtree was the best overall WR in that draft. He just had a messed up QB situation.

Alex Smith has shown to be a pro bowl level QB in this league. We were so incompetent those years. If we drafted Rodgers we woulda f**ked him up too.

Somehow some way we made this into an alex smith thread classic wz lol

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by All22:

Crabtree was the best overall WR in that draft. He just had a messed up QB situation.

Alex Smith has shown to be a pro bowl level QB in this league. We were so incompetent those years. If we drafted Rodgers we woulda f**ked him up too.

Somehow some way we made this into an alex smith thread classic wz lol

I'm the only one who mentioned Alex and you're missing the point.

Originally posted by CardinalGold:

It's pretty clear to me Kyle and Lynch thought Kinlaw was the better value than Aiyuk at 13/14. The mystery to me is what they thought of Ruggs. It's possible he was their #1 choice but got snagged and they don't want to admit it because of...Raiders? It's just odd to me they have said nothing about Ruggs, only saying they liked CeeDee. With Jeudy we can infer he wasn't higher than Kinlaw since they passed a chance to take him at 13/14.

It would be cool if they made their board available after the draft.

Yeah I thought no mention of Ruggs was odd. Either they simply didn't like him as much or with him going off the board before our pick maybe they wanted to hide the fact that they liked him.

Deebo, Aiyuk...they're a certain type of WR that lots of people identify as Kyle's scheme guys. Maybe he's changed his process and doesn't see as big a need for the big speed guy but I felt very strongly Ruggs was definitely in play.

No way to know now. To me it's like poker. Sometimes you show your hand, other times you don't. There is gameplay involved with each decision. We obviously drafted Aiyuk. Saying Lamb was #2 just behind him shows we're looking at the YAC guys without specifically being the burner types.

Had Kyle said "we had Ruggs #1 or even #2/3" it shows that Ruggs was on our radar. Moving forward if we want a speed WR we've shown that maybe those aren't the type of WRs he'll rank as high as the Deebo, Aiyuk, Lamb types.

We'll see what happens moving forward. Hopefully we don't actually have to look at WR early in the draft for a long time.

It's quite possible if Ruggs was there at #13, they would have taken him and figured out, what to do with the DT situation with the #31 pick.