Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by pdc20:
Simms said that Kyle was laser focus on Aiyuk before the draft to the point that Chris couldn´t put him in his mock draft.
Kyle even asked him about taking Aiyuk at 13.
But that doesn´t mean Kyle didn´t want Ruggs.
I mean, maybe Kyle didn´t think Ruggs would be there at 13. That´s what he thought about Kinlaw.
When you see Ruggs play, I have a hard time thinking he doesn´t fit this offense. He´s excellent on slant and yac also.

Only Chris Simms DID put Ruggs in his final Mock Draft going to the 9ers at pick #20.

Yeah that´s my point. He knew it was gonna be Aiyuk but he couldn´t put him there because he didn´t want to screw his buddy.
That´s what Chris said.
Imagine if he put Aiyuk. Nobody thought the niners had him on their radar and Chris is Kyle best friend.
That would be suspicious right?
So he tried to hide that with Tua falling in the draft at 13 and Ruggs falling at 20.
But like I said, that doesn´t mean that Kyle didn´t like Ruggs. All we know is that he had Lamb and Aiyuk at top of his board.

Apologies I read that wrong. I thought you were talking about Simms not putting Ruggs in his Mock Draft but you were talking about Aiyuk.

Originally posted by genus49:
Yeah I thought no mention of Ruggs was odd. Either they simply didn't like him as much or with him going off the board before our pick maybe they wanted to hide the fact that they liked him.

Deebo, Aiyuk...they're a certain type of WR that lots of people identify as Kyle's scheme guys. Maybe he's changed his process and doesn't see as big a need for the big speed guy but I felt very strongly Ruggs was definitely in play.

No way to know now. To me it's like poker. Sometimes you show your hand, other times you don't. There is gameplay involved with each decision. We obviously drafted Aiyuk. Saying Lamb was #2 just behind him shows we're looking at the YAC guys without specifically being the burner types.

Had Kyle said "we had Ruggs #1 or even #2/3" it shows that Ruggs was on our radar. Moving forward if we want a speed WR we've shown that maybe those aren't the type of WRs he'll rank as high as the Deebo, Aiyuk, Lamb types.

The underlying theme in reply here is that you don't need a 4.27 in gym shorts at a camp setting to be the "burner type" in full gear on Sundays.

If you wanted a track guy, well, we had him and we traded him away during the draft. That pretty much answers your question right there about whether or not we'll lust for guys running in the 4.2s with our current QB. But if we're talking speed and "speed guys,...Aiyuk is certainly a big speed guy and that's how they see him and have even voiced such, no question about it.

I think it's just that an NFL coach's definition of one after watching nuances on film and your definition of one after watching a combine isint going to always match.

I luv the guys crazy YAC - it seems to come very naturally to him, fearless burst, great vision. BUT, what I like about him is his wingspan / catch radius. Its almost like we drafted a 6'3" receiver with that wingspan but 5'10" receiver elusiveness. Also I am not concerned with his 40 speed - he doesn't get caught from behind, be very subtly works angles to stay away ahead of pursuit - very Rice-esque in that way.

Sometimes I worry that coaches are so focused on what they want, they forget to consider what their players need. For example, Kyle could focus on the receiver type he wants, and forget that a QBs best friend when they are under duress is a receiver with a big catch radius when the QB's throw can't be perfectly placed. It goes a long way to keeping a drive alive even though the play may not have worked perfectly as designed.

I think with this pick they got a QB friendly receiver with a big catch radius - that's smart for getting something your QB needs. If you get Hurd back, he is a similar guy - then JG will have two great outlets and the offense will be much better by increasing their % of positive plays even when the design doesn't work perfectly. LOVE THAT.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by philgardis49:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Just keep repeating this to yourself:

81" wingspan, 40" vertical leap, 4.4 speed.

And, 9-3/4" hands at 6'0" tall.

Yup guy is a beast

Ok. Now we are lying.

He's not 6'. He didn't run a 4.4.

That doesn't mean he can't produce.

Did we meet him in person?

Basic math

5' 11 5/8" is over 5' 11.5". Anything at or above the halfway mark is rounded up, if you are reporting whole numbers. Therefore, it is less appropriate to say he is 5'11" than it is to say he is 6'0". If you want to say he's 5' 11.5", if only to support your argument that he is too short, then at least you won't be cheating the math to make your point. In whole feet and inches, he's 6'0".

Regarding the 40, dude posted a 4.45 with an abdominal muscle injury that required surgery. I had to run an APFT 2 mile with a hernia, and it added about 2 minutes to my time. I'm pretty sure that injury could add a couple tics to his 40. Now, he recorded the time he recorded, that much is true, but it is completely asinine to watch him play, consider the injury, and determine that his recorded 40 time is what he would have run while 100% healthy. Personally, I think it's a huge plus that he ran that fast while injured. It shows he can effectively play through some bumps in the road.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by philgardis49:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Just keep repeating this to yourself:

81" wingspan, 40" vertical leap, 4.4 speed.

And, 9-3/4" hands at 6'0" tall.

Yup guy is a beast

Ok. Now we are lying.

He's not 6'. He didn't run a 4.4.

That doesn't mean he can't produce.

Did we meet him in person?

Basic math

5' 11 5/8" is over 5' 11.5". Anything at or above the halfway mark is rounded up, if you are reporting whole numbers. Therefore, it is less appropriate to say he is 5'11" than it is to say he is 6'0". If you want to say he's 5' 11.5", if only to support your argument that he is too short, then at least you won't be cheating the math to make your point. In whole feet and inches, he's 6'0".

Regarding the 40, dude posted a 4.45 with an abdominal muscle injury that required surgery. I had to run an APFT 2 mile with a hernia, and it added about 2 minutes to my time. I'm pretty sure that injury could add a couple tics to his 40. Now, he recorded the time he recorded, that much is true, but it is completely asinine to watch him play, consider the injury, and determine that his recorded 40 time is what he would have run while 100% healthy. Personally, I think it's a huge plus that he ran that fast while injured. It shows he can effectively play through some bumps in the road.

He ticks all the boxes for a good receiver prospect and give Shanahan's record I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. The choice was really for us to take Kinlaw and Aiyuk versus Lamb and some other guy.

His 40 at the combine actually helped him fall to 25 for us to trade up. If he ran a sub 4.5 at the combine he would've been the 4th or 5th WR off the board, at least. I actually thought the Eagles were gonna pick him up but they went with Jalen Reagor instead.
But on the field, he usually breaks away from defenders and never gets caught from behind. I'll take that over his 4.5 combine time.

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
His 40 at the combine actually helped him fall to 25 for us to trade up. If he ran a sub 4.5 at the combine he would've been the 4th or 5th WR off the board, at least. I actually thought the Eagles were gonna pick him up but they went with Jalen Reagor instead.
But on the field, he usually breaks away from defenders and never gets caught from behind. I'll take that over his 4.5 combine time.

I still think a 4.5 is pretty impressive considering he was running with a core muscle injury.

Originally posted by Bellaleo:

Originally posted by 9moon:
JUST THINK OF ... Antonio Brown w/all screws super TIGHT !!!

Have you come up for a name for him yet?

c'mon brah!! of course his nickname was already ready to be place on his jersey the moment he becomes a 49er..

I call him... YUCK !!!!

.. and that's because he gonna make them DB looks freakin uglyyy !!!!

This guy played on the field that Joe, Steve, and Jerry practiced on. Destiny.

I understand that Kyle compared him to Isaac Bruce, but I don't see it. To me, he's goddam carbon copy of Emmanuel Sanders.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by philgardis49:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Just keep repeating this to yourself:

81" wingspan, 40" vertical leap, 4.4 speed.

And, 9-3/4" hands at 6'0" tall.

Yup guy is a beast

Ok. Now we are lying.

He's not 6'. He didn't run a 4.4.

That doesn't mean he can't produce.

Did we meet him in person?

Basic math

5' 11 5/8" is over 5' 11.5". Anything at or above the halfway mark is rounded up, if you are reporting whole numbers. Therefore, it is less appropriate to say he is 5'11" than it is to say he is 6'0". If you want to say he's 5' 11.5", if only to support your argument that he is too short, then at least you won't be cheating the math to make your point. In whole feet and inches, he's 6'0".

Regarding the 40, dude posted a 4.45 with an abdominal muscle injury that required surgery. I had to run an APFT 2 mile with a hernia, and it added about 2 minutes to my time. I'm pretty sure that injury could add a couple tics to his 40. Now, he recorded the time he recorded, that much is true, but it is completely asinine to watch him play, consider the injury, and determine that his recorded 40 time is what he would have run while 100% healthy. Personally, I think it's a huge plus that he ran that fast while injured. It shows he can effectively play through some bumps in the road.

According to lynch he's a 4.3 guy. Now whether or not that is true I have not clue...but his game play looks much closer to 4.3 than 4.5

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I understand that Kyle compared him to Isaac Bruce, but I don't see it. To me, he's goddam carbon copy of Emmanuel Sanders.

He's a faster Deebo and Sanders.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

I understand that Kyle compared him to Isaac Bruce, but I don't see it. To me, he's goddam carbon copy of Emmanuel Sanders.

He's a faster Deebo and Sanders.

I can't wait to see how Kyle uses these guys. Gonna be fun to watch!

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I understand that Kyle compared him to Isaac Bruce, but I don't see it. To me, he's goddam carbon copy of Emmanuel Sanders.

He's a faster Deebo and Sanders.

I know he's faster, I'm talking about his style of play.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I understand that Kyle compared him to Isaac Bruce, but I don't see it. To me, he's goddam carbon copy of Emmanuel Sanders.

He's a faster Deebo and Sanders.

I know he's faster, I'm talking about his style of play.

Yeah, I know - their play is very much alike.