Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
"The Market" is what you can access (ability to enter, per Webster). We know exactly what that is: It's $14.1m and change, with no guaranteed money beyond that. We are offering Way above "market".
Come on people. Aiyuk Told you what he is going to do. He's "for sure" going to sign with the Niners. He's realistic, so why aren't fans?
The Niners are offering Much more than that. We may go higher. This is a non issue. The Niners aren't playing hardball, offering a Much better deal, and yes they are going to get a deal they can message for other teammates (do fans expect you to object to that, Brandon?, yeah, I know you won't), but also a deal that will lock him up for years. Brandon is getting a much better deal than the "market", locking up a generational wealth deal you have to be an inbecile to walk away from, and I'm saying Brandon is no imbecile, and a deal with a team he does not hate, and can win with, and has a Great young QB he Knows can get him the ball, and you know you will see a "next" contract, and next time with a ring or two on your finger. What's the market then?
Again, we are offering Way above "Market", and Brandon knows it.
Everybody, Chill. Can you spell "Super Bowl"?
That's going to reset Market.
BA isn't accessing the market for this upcoming year - he is negotiating for future years that he isn't under contract.
At worst, the market is $25M-$28M for him cause that's the franchise tag going rate for next season. He wants inline with what the receiver market is going forward.
it benefits him to negotiate this early cause it secures the future and he gets a large signing bonus upfront but if he wants to risk it - he will get more than what he will if he signs this off season.
$25-$28m with no bank account and no guaranteed future income and already being at least $12m in the hole playing for $14m this year is worth less than $26m/yr, or more, with a fat investment account and many years of guaranteed money. Optimistically, yes, he can earn more later, so he should and will get the clock moving on his next contract, because I believe he and his agent are rational and are not fools.
huh? His $14.1M this year is guaranteed. Hypothetically, if he played next year on the tag - that's roughly another $28M fully guaranteed. If we didn't tag him, then he would get a fat contract elsewhere.
worst case scenario for Aiyuk is that he makes $14.1M this year, financially.
it's just a matter of health risk for BA. The reality is that the longer we wait to sign him, the more expensive he will be. If BA is willing to do what Cousins did and risk it health wise, he's going to make a lot more than he would if he signed a contract with us. He could make $40M+ fully guaranteed over the next two years and then sign a fat contract at 28, which is how cousins maximized his money cause h12me was in the same situation we are with BA.
Ceedee lamb and Chase are still unsigned this off season too. I bet Chase will get something in theWe
$32M range and lamb will get $30M-$31M, BA Is going to want more than lamb.
so the longer we wait, the more unlikely it is that we sign him, IMO. That or we give him a ton of guaranteed money.
We're not waiting. We have a large contract on the table for him now. He's not waiting, imo because he see this situation more clearly. Seems to me he's telling us for sure he wants to come back and to chill.
You say his worst case is he makes $14,1m this year, but then you say he'll make a lot more if he doesn't sign a contract with us. If he doesn't sign a contract with us, he Will be playing the 5th year of his contract. We're offering him $26m on average, and we all understand he'll get much of his cash up front. But even not counting that, $14m is $12m less than $26m, and even if he thinks he can do better later, it's doubtful he'll ever cover that $12m difference in these contract years, and meanwhile that injury risk is certainly real and on him beyond the current year.
Cousins was Not in the same situation. His contract was up, so he at least got the tag value from the first year. That's the difference, plus if he won't sign, we can stretch this out Three years on two tag years, and still save us a ton less than the $104m we are offering him. Don't forget, we are offering Aiyuk a contract a year before his current contract is up, with the commensurate raise we don't have to do.
I think this proves even in the short run, he's better off signing now. In the long term, your logic that contracts will go up still applies, as the cap will be still higher in 4 years than in a year or two, and he can't even control getting to free agency then, and he's certainly young enough to get another contract if he starts this one now. I believe he will, and all this consternation will become a waste of time.