Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I know drafting a blocking TE in the late 6th rd is horrible, they could have gotten a real talent at IOL lol

Oh and let's pretend like they didn't draft OL before that pick

They did not pick an interior offensive lineman the entire draft. The number one position of need arguably. I suppose you think that's genius don't you.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

They did not pick an interior offensive lineman the entire draft. The number one position of need arguably. I suppose you think that's genius don't you.

Yup Colton McKivitz just doesn't exist lol. Some draft evaluators have him as a guard at the next level.

Explain to me who they should have drafted at guard with the picks they had????

Who was this stud that they missed on? The draft class at IOL was straight s**t for the most part. It was a poor yr to try and upgrade at IOL.

I dunno if Herm Edwards was blowing smoke, but he told Johnnie L that the dude was recovering from an injury at the combine and ran slow, he thought BA was a sub 4.4 runner in his opinion, this was from a recent article... watch film, he never gets caught!

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

...and fewer situations where jimmy gets popped. So the line really could use an upgrade.

Then we will have more attempts.

Inconceivable.

The only gaping hole we didn't address in the draft -- iol. Good god.

But we did address our needs for #4 tight end.

Pret-ty shrewd.

I know right?! Lynch has no idea what the hell he is doing. Can't wait to get a real GM that could possibly get us a super bowl berth or something

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I know drafting a blocking TE in the late 6th rd is horrible, they could have gotten a real talent at IOL lol

Oh and let's pretend like they didn't draft OL before that pick

They did not pick an interior offensive lineman the entire draft. The number one position of need arguably. I suppose you think that's genius don't you.

Seems to me that all of the chatter around McKovitz was that he was being projected as a guard rather than a tackle. But I guess that doesn't count. Plus they needed a blocking tight end with both Celek and the other guy gone.

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

agree. 4.4 or 4.5 is the same thing basically. it comes down to your technique during the 40 yard dash. It's not like a WR starts his stance with his hand in the ground then starts running lol. 4.3 is where you really see a difference in speed though.

a 4.4 and a 4.5 are not the same thing lol.

Ayiuk's 40 time put him in the 55th percentile, a 4.4 flat puts you in the 87th percentile among NFL WRs.

If you're gonna bring up technique and how to properly run a 40, then we shouldn't be talking about a football players 40 time to begin with

It's clear that a core injury hurt his 40 time. He's fast.

Would like to know what he runs now that he's healthy. I think he's a 4.3 guy.

It's nice to have the combine numbers to make projections based on others but it is what it is.

OBJ is one of the best deep ball guys in the NFL when healthy. He ran 4.43 healthy. Aiyuk ran 4.5 with a core injury(and 7 lbs heavier). Can't say they're the same speed given the discrepancy there as we can't say 100% Aiyuk matches or tops OBJ had he been healthy and then there's game speed.

On tape Aiyuk is fast enough. We'll see how he does but if Kyle likes what he sees, I'm good with it. And if he comes anywhere close to Odell's production minus the headaches...we've got ourselves a steal.

He's got the speed - I'm not worried about that, I think he'll match OBJ's production, no doubt.

You talking current OBJ production right? Cause first couple seasons OBJ production was NFL history good, highly doubt he matches that. In fact I guarantee he won't match that lol.

even if hes as good as OBJ early on of course he wont match those numbers. Kyle likes to run the ball and his system wont be easy to get right off the bat

Yeah, your probably right. He simply won't get enough balls thrown his way. I guess there goes the ROY award.

Then when you factor in Bourne, Au Jus, 3. RBs, maybe Hurd, TT, Kittle, Deebo, and Aiyuc....unhhh....there just aren't going to be enough footballs to go around. That is assuming Hurd and TT both are healed up. But the point about not enough footballs....it's like the 10 teated sow who had 14 piglets. Somebody isn't going to get fed.

...and you ask them to give it everything they have, because other teams are watching.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

So I take it your point of this is Aiyuk's 40 time doesn't really even matter. Hope I'm correct. I mean it matters somewhat but not in the context of Shanahan's offense. His true 40 time is probably in the 4.4 range so it's plenty fast enough but his football speed and what he does after the catch is the main thing. He can still be dangerous as hell without running a sub 4.4. because he fits their scheme the best. Niners from what I can tell had Lamb rated the highest with BA just a hair below that. Shanny couldn't give a s**t who the fastest receiver was.

My pt has been there is actually a difference between a 4.5 flat and a 4.4 flat when looking at the position.

55th percentile in the NFL if you run a 4.5 87th percentile if you run a 4.4 flat. It's the NFL all these dudes are top end athletes, even being a 10th of a second faster then the other guy is a big deal.

I'll bet money if he was 100% he would have been closer to that 4.4 time.

I say 4.40 flat. Herm Edwards said he was a high 4.3 guy all day every day.

I wonder if he ever had another 40 timed in the past and what that time was. Maiocco should ask him this question!!

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yup Colton McKivitz just doesn't exist lol. Some draft evaluators have him as a guard at the next level.

Explain to me who they should have drafted at guard with the picks they had????

Who was this stud that they missed on? The draft class at IOL was straight s**t for the most part. It was a poor yr to try and upgrade at IOL.

Honestly, IOL pass pro was the #1 weakness of the team. I would have spent all my low round capital throwing darts at IOL. We need significant upgrades over Person/Garland for Pass pro. Maybe Richburg not coming back anywhere near his form. So what's the plan? Another year of journeyman getting bullied by quality 3 techs? One of these days someone gonna fall on Jimmy's knee and know we have to get to the super bowl with who's behind door number 2.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Honestly, IOL pass pro was the #1 weakness of the team. I would have spent all my low round capital throwing darts at IOL. We need significant upgrades over Person/Garland for Pass pro. Maybe Richburg not coming back anywhere near his form. So what's the plan? Another year of journeyman getting bullied by quality 3 techs? One of these days someone gonna fall on Jimmy's knee and know we have to get to the super bowl with who's behind door number 2.

Person is gone so there's that. Brunskill is ALREADY a better pass-blocker than him. He stuffed that Seattle DL week 17. He's basically like drafting an IOL just has some actual starts at the position already.

Again they did spend on OL. Throwing a 6th rd pick on someone who isn't close to worth that doesn't help this team if you can grab a player that actually CAN contribute.

They know more that we do regarding Richburg. Kyle values center and if he didn't feel Richburg would be good to play this upcoming yr they would have made plans for it, they certainly have showed that with trading for TW.

People b***hing about RG clearly haven't paid attention to what the rest of the league is throwing out there week to week.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Honestly, IOL pass pro was the #1 weakness of the team. I would have spent all my low round capital throwing darts at IOL. We need significant upgrades over Person/Garland for Pass pro. Maybe Richburg not coming back anywhere near his form. So what's the plan? Another year of journeyman getting bullied by quality 3 techs? One of these days someone gonna fall on Jimmy's knee and know we have to get to the super bowl with who's behind door number 2.

Person is gone so there's that. Brunskill is ALREADY a better pass-blocker than him. He stuffed that Seattle DL week 17. He's basically like drafting an IOL just has some actual starts at the position already.

Again they did spend on OL. Throwing a 6th rd pick on someone who isn't close to worth that doesn't help this team if you can grab a player that actually CAN contribute.

They know more that we do regarding Richburg. Kyle values center and if he didn't feel Richburg would be good to play this upcoming yr they would have made plans for it, they certainly have showed that with trading for TW.

People b***hing about RG clearly haven't paid attention to what the rest of the league is throwing out there week to week.

I'm confident with what we have, Kyle knows offense, he knows how to build a OL, we'll be fine. Plus Garland did a good job in place of Weston, who was an All Pro/Pro Bowl type player pre injury last year.

From a The Athletic article:
They (49ers) also had information from Arizona State on the top speed the GPS device in Aiyuk's shoulder pad had registered during the season: 21.97 mph. To put that in perspective, only three NFL players had higher speeds last season, according to Next Gen Stats, including 49ers running back Matt Breida. His 22.3 mph speed, which he hit on an 83-yard touchdown run against Cleveland in Week 5, was the fastest time of the year.

"It's not often that you see that," Adam Peters said of 40 times and GPS speeds that are at odds. "But when you do see that, you want to really dig in. And that's really where you trust the scouts, you trust the scouts' eyes and the information that they get."

Originally posted by thl408:

From a The Athletic article:
They (49ers) also had information from Arizona State on the top speed the GPS device in Aiyuk's shoulder pad had registered during the season: 21.97 mph. To put that in perspective, only three NFL players had higher speeds last season, according to Next Gen Stats, including 49ers running back Matt Breida. His 22.3 mph speed, which he hit on an 83-yard touchdown run against Cleveland in Week 5, was the fastest time of the year.

"It's not often that you see that," Adam Peters said of 40 times and GPS speeds that are at odds. "But when you do see that, you want to really dig in. And that's really where you trust the scouts, you trust the scouts' eyes and the information that they get."

f**k! Maybe he is a 4.3 guy!
Either way, I'll take the full pads gps game speed over the underwear one all day every day

Like I said, his speed on tape looks much closer to 4.3 than 4.5

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Like I said, his speed on tape looks much closer to 4.3 than 4.5

Yup I've stated 4.4 just to be conservative. That's still fast as s**t.